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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:45 PM Original message |
The Problem Now Is People Vested in Obama's Failure |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. bullshit. We want our country back. Obama is just a man. This is about much more.. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. +1 |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Exhibits 1 and 2 |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Thank you for this post. +1 n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. You demonstrate the OP's point. Great job, there.... (nt) |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. demonstrate the point how? |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Fool me once... |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Well said. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Obama could have vetoed the bill, and there would be no health |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. How would we know? All the single-payer proponents were lcoked out of the room, physically, during t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. or Obama could have pushed hardfor single payer, then comprising to a strong public option. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. He explained many times why single payer was not possible |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. economic collapse? are you kidding? It would save health care, and the economy! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. He didn't quite word it that way, but he said if we were starting from |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Unfortunately it can not be done gradually. not while the supreme court hands our |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. He also promised he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Congress, which was a Dem congress at that time, gets just as much of my |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I agree with you there. They were too concerned with having 60 |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I want to say it is a pleasure to have a civil conversation with a DUer who thinks quite differently |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Single payer is very possible. It is really the only good solution. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Again, it would have to be a gradual shift. Can't be done overnight. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. No it does not work that way |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. umm. remember Dems were in the majority then AND when he kept the Bush tax cuts! |
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driver8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. another +1. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yep. They want to justify what they've said for the past few days (or years) so everything has to be |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R...nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. So it seems. (nt) |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. k&r. nt |
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MercuryRepeater (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. they have wasted so much of their time bashing the man, they can't stand seeing it to go to waste. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. You could be right because people WILL do that.......... |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. K & R |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. I am not sure that what he said was good |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. According to Paul Krugman |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. When he says he'll do something good, we know he'll be opposed, see post #12 |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Today is a good day... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. +1,000 |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. I swear... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Oh please if Obama shot Unicorns on the White House Lawn |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. "Tough guy"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Deleted message |
walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. And Obama holds no responsibility for this attitude? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. We just had more than a week here on DU, during which ... |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. Times like this are when I wonder how many paid trolls there are here |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Exactly. I'm still looking for guy that owes me $20 when Obama didn't slash SS in State of Union. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. +100 |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. Big fat K&R |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. Folks use cynicism as an excuse not to have anything good to say, |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. My god, don't you dare say that we the peole have to do anything. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. Sorry but the past actions that have pissed me off weren't a dream or illusion. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. + a Trillion! n/t |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. Good Lord. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. LOL |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. He'll never support ending DADT either |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. You're right and it's been that way for a long time |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. My world doesn't revolve around Barack Obama, I'm sorry. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Amen |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. easy champ... it was a fricking speech |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. I don't understand how numerous speeches that turned out to be untrue seem "surreal" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. In 2008, |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Agreed. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Earlier this afternoon, |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. Of course you leave out the other side of the coin. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
63. He didn't say he was gutting Social Security--but he didn't take it off the table either |
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