Why on earth would Sarah Palin fake a pregnancy?

[cali]

Really, why? What possible motive could she have? Do you see her as being willing to make that sacrifice? Clearly she wasn't covering up a daughter's pregnancy. Does it make sense that she'd cover a son's girlfriend's pregnancy? Or a husband's mistress' pregnancy. To what ends? How would her husband/son having impregnated someone harm her political career? She didn't know that she was going to be picked to be a vp candidate. This theory makes no sense.

[louis-t]

1. Fundie crazies are all about making themselves look saintly.

Even at the local level.

[roguevalley]

42. because she is that small minded, that petty, that willing to lie and

this is from someone who watched her hoohah since 1996. I believe it.

[Drale]

2. She will do anything to get attention

She is a media whore, and she will always be that way.

[cali]

10. that makes no sense in the context of the question.

[Drale]

18. Why would Sarah Palin fake a pregnancy?

because she's an attention whore and will do anything to get attention. How does that not fit the question?

[DontTreadOnMe]

3. Un-wed daughter's pregnancy!

Are you sure that goes well for a Republican candidate running for ANY office?

The family values party!

[cali]

13. that's impossible. timing is wrong for bristol and the others were too young.

[WinkyDink]

23. We don't know for sure the facts of Bristol's "first" pregnancy.

[mrcheerful]

52. Ahhhh not really a girl can get pregnant as soon as she has her first period

and there have been pregnancies for girls as young as 9 or 10 years. The average age for most girls is in the 12 to 13 year old range.

[Greybnk48]

62. A friend of mine never had a 1st period after her 1st born.

They were Catholic. She was young and healthy and they have two kids barely more than 9 months apart. AND she was breast feeding! So all of the PG myths were busted for me on this one.

[mrcheerful]

85. Not all periods look like the St. Valentines day massacre lol

[tibbiit]

60. Willow was thirteen I think.

Thats not too young to get pregnant.
tib

[pnwmom]

97. Not really. My husband and his brother are only 10 months apart.

And it's unclear when Bristol's baby was born.

Did you read the article by the professor?

[joeybee12]

4. What makes you think people (not just nutter palin) always do stuff that makes sense?

Especially when there's sex involved?

[cali]

15. I think people almost invariably have motives and reasons for what they do.

[joeybee12]

34. They have motives, but are they reasonable? Like I said, when sex is

involved, common sense and reason get thrown out.

[WinkyDink]

5. "Clearly she wasn't covering up a daughter's pregnancy." Bristol's then-whereabouts have not been

revealed.

[cali]

16. what are the odds that bristol would have a down syndrome child?

what are the odds that Palin would?

[WinkyDink]

26. Odds aren't facts.

[demmiblue]

27. What are the odds that someone like Sarah Palin would become a VP running mate?

Outliers exist.

[KittyWampus]

28. Most children w/Down's Syndrome born to women under 35.

The occurrence of Down syndrome per 1000 living births is approximately 0,5 for a woman under 25 years of age, 0,7 under the age of 30, 5 under 35 years, 25 under 40 years, and 34,6 for mothers over the age of 45.

Still, against popular belief, most children with Down’s syndrome are born to young mothers: 51 % to mothers under 30, 72 % to women under 35.

[Tansy_Gold]

41. My former boss's daughter, age 17, gave birth to a Down syndrome

baby in 2005.

The parents did not know ahead of time the baby would have special needs, and in fact the diagnosis was not confirmed until the baby was several weeks old.

It happens. It doesn't have to happen often to still be a fact. The odds might be long, but it's still possible.


TG

[TorchTheWitch]

71. what are the odds that the Palins are lying about the baby having Down's?

The child having Down's not only was Sarah's excuse as to why she kept the supposed pregnancy a secret and why she never looked pregnant, but it also conveniently makes it look much more like an older woman produced such a child. I've never seen any evidence whatsoever that the child actually does have Down's syndrome.

[jmowreader]

77. Odds for Bristol 1:2000; odds for Sarah 1:10

http://www.babydiscovery.co.uk/downs-syndrome.asp

It's rare, but it can happen.

[hedgehog]

82. IIRC, while older mothers have a higher chance of having a Down Syndrome child,

because younger mothers have more babies, more Down syndrome children are born to younger mothers.

[RayOfHope]

88. I personally know 5 younger mothers that had babies with Down Syndrome. The youngest was 19

The rest were mid to late 20s.

[KittyWampus]

21. She was actually out of school for months. Supposedly with mono.

[WinkyDink]

25. Yes, out of school. Like girls used to visit their aunts in another state, wink wink.

We only know where Bristol was NOT.

[movonne]

6. Maybe because she was running for vice president and 1mistake

can be over looked but 2 could be a problem...my guess..

[cali]

17. she wasn't running for vp. there's been no evidence at all that she was.

[walldude]

7. The theory makes as much sense as getting on a plane

after your water broke. It doesn't seem any crazier to me.

My wife couldn't get to the hospital fast enough when her water broke.

No it doesn't make sense, but neither does the events leading up to the birth. Can you make sense of getting on a plane while in labor?

[Solomon]

47. I thought she might have done that to endanger the baby. After all,

if God does the miscarriage, it's all okay.

[walldude]

49. With her... anything is possible..

[Mariana]

69. Would Tawd go along with that?

He was supposedly with her at the time. Or is he so stupid he couldn't figure out what she was doing was fucking insane and dangerous and he should put a stop to it? They'd already had four children, right? Surely after all that experience he had some vague idea of how things are supposed to be done when your wife goes into labor - like when her water breaks, you get her ass to a hospital now, you don't wait around eight hours so she can give a speech and then after that get on an airplane and then another one, and eventually wander into a hospital sometime the next day. She wasn't just endangering the baby if what she says happened really happened. She was endangering herself, too. MY husband sure as hell wouldn't keep his mouth shut and go along if I decided to do something that crazy. He'd do anything and everything in his power, short of violence, to stop me.

That's what makes me think the whole story is made up from the word go. I just can't imagine any man going along with that kind of idea OR being so thick he thought everything they were doing was cool.

[Saphire]

80. This is what gets me too. Maybe her water didn't really break in Houston,

could be she just peed herself and was to stupid to figure out the difference.

Either way, to embark on a trip from Houston to Alaska when you even think you might go into labor is just stupid.

It may be her child, but the whole delivery story is fishy to me...she's lying about something.

[Mariana]

59. Sarah got on TWO planes after her water broke

according to her crazy-ass story.

[pnwmom]

8. I'm sure she thought they wouldn't want a VP candidate with an unwed pregnant daughter.

And, as a narcissist, she would do anything to preserve her self-image, and having an unwed pregnant daughter didn't comport with her view of herself.

Bristol figured out a way to win, after all, with that second pregnancy.

[cali]

20. you do realize that it's pretty rare for a 16 year old to have a down syndrome child

and far less rare for a woman over 40 to have one, right?

[pnwmom]

32. Yes, I know -- but I had a friend with one at age 24.

So I also know it's possible.

I'm not saying Bristol's the mom; but I think Sarah's behavior before and after the birth was extremely strange and the questions being asked now are logical questions.

[Tansy_Gold]

46. Rare is not the same thing as impossible.

If you want to debunk the theory, then you might want to find a better foundation to base your debunking on. For whatever reason, young women do occasionally have babies with Down syndrome. It is not impossible for Bristol Palin to have had one. Long odds maybe, but long shots sometimes win.



TG

[wickerwoman]

94. It's pretty rare for a 44 year old to get pregnant

in the first place (without fertility treatment.)

Assuming they are regularly sexually active and not using birth control:

Odds of a 44 year old getting pregnant: 5%
Odds of a 20 year old getting pregnant: 86%
(fertility rates are presumably even higher for teens)

http://www.babyart.org/pregnancy/how-age-affects-pregnancy.html

Speaking purely in terms of statistics, it's more likely that Bristol got pregnant and had a Down's Syndrome baby than that Sarah got pregnant in the first place without fertility treatments (which as far as I know she's never claimed to have undergone).

[Nikia]

98. You're reading the chart wrong

The 5% is per year for 45-50, but 36% from 40-44. Some women who do not get pregnant in the first year, get pregnant in the following year or so forth. 31% of women 45-50 will get pregnant within 3 years since 69% of them suffer from infertility, defined as no baby after 3 years of sex.

[wickerwoman]

103. Still,

the point stands that it's far, far more likely for a teenager to get pregnant than a 44 year old, assuming they were both active and not using birth control.

So you can't discount the theory that Bristol is the kid's mother (as Cali has several times in this thread) simply because it's statistically more likely for an older woman to have a Downs' baby because it's also statistically more likely that the teenager got pregnant in the first place. Combine one chance with the other, and neither story is that much more improbable than the other.

The moral of the story is we can't judge this one based on statistics.

And there's better evidence revolving around her ridiculous airplane trip. I think that's where the heart of the story is anyway.

[KittyWampus]

9. She never did fake a pregnancy. All the sudden she just ended up with a newborn.

Further, it could either be her daughter's or her son's.

Now why would she pretend the newborn was her's?

To save face. Stabbing people in the back only goes so far.

And if the baby belonged to Palin's son- the actual mother may very well have been bribed to keep her mouth shut about a lot of stuff. Like how Palin's son was arrested for defacing a school bus.

[pnwmom]

11. She did for about a day. I did see one photo

where she'd obviously strapped a pillow on.

;)

[bettyellen]

56. a square pillow, LOL, what an idiot!

[leftstreet]

50. That's a good point

I didn't even realize she was supposedly pregnant until she showed up with a newborn and the webz went crazy.

Seems odd in retrospect that she didn't spend 9 months exploiting her pregnancy as 'family values' and all that.

[rufus dog]

12. I don't see her covering for her husband or son.

Only viable explaination is that she was covering for Bristol, which means Bristol would have to get pregnant again immediately. (If there was enough of a lag between, which is questionable)

That being said, I think to any logical person that Palin's own explaination is damning enough.

[KittyWampus]

19. if her 'daughter in law', the actual mother threatened to inform the public about how the father was

arrested?

You really think Palin wanted the public to know her son had been arrested?

[pnwmom]

36. My husband and his brother are 10 months apart. It's possible. n/t

[rufus dog]

75. Irish twins?

I have siblings that close too.

[pnwmom]

96. That's what my mother always said. n/t

[Urban Prairie]

14. Palin was still a governor, and that potential scandal may have ruined her possible reelection

campaign, based partly upon on her/their morally superior, pro-life, and pious fundy conservative Christian Rethug family values platform, which we all know is pure bullshit.

[cali]

22. not in this day and age.

[Urban Prairie]

33. Trig's potential parents from best to worst

Scarah and Tawdry

Out of wedlock:

Bristol and Levi Johnston's "first" baby (my pick as very likely)

Bristol and ?

Track and ?

Cheating:

Tawdry and Shailey Tripp (my pick as most very likely)

Tawdry and ?

Scarah and ?

Incestuous:

Track and Scarah (very unlikely)

Tawdry and Bristol (unlikely)

Track and Bristol (extremely unlikely)

[pnwmom]

37. She didn't know that. Hindsight is everything.

But with her mindset, she probably thought that having a pregnant unwed daughter would be a deal-breaker.

[seabeyond]

24. all i know is her labor story is a lie. not knowing she would be VP is more in favor

of her fiddling with something. so i think that backs the story of lie more than her knowing she would be out front.

[Mariana]

72. I think you're right about that.

She probably wouldn't have done WHATEVER the hell it was she actually did, and she wouldn't have told that crazy-ass labor story if she knew she was going to be tapped for VP.

Oh, what the hell am I saying? That's what she would do if she behaved rationally. Who the hell can say what SHE would do in a given situation? Nothing that makes sense, that's for sure.

[seabeyond]

84. "what the hell am I saying? " lol lol lol. exactly. i hear ya. i tell myself that often. nt

[Old and In the Way]

29. AFAIK, she never released her medical records when she ran as VP.

Something that all candidates have done as a matter of course. I wonder why? Sure would have nipped this whole theory in the bud...dontchathink? I wonder what she might have been hiding? Maybe a past 'surgical procedure' (wink wink)? Maybe no recent pregnancy?

Funny how birthers are so concerned about Obama's birth certificate, but seemed not to care much about the health of their VP choice, particularly with that old fart on top of the ticket-a stroke away from having Palin as POTUS.

[bettyellen]

55. she had her doc (not an OB) release vague records, saying the kid was born but not to who or when...

and not saying she elivered it. They did it the last possible moment, so there would be no time for follow up questions. The docs statement is very odd, like she took pains to make sure it did not say it was Sarah's. She also lied on the radio saying she had released the birth certificate, when she did not.

[WinkyDink]

30. Statistics:

Does the risk of Down syndrome increase with the mother’s age?
Yes. The risk of Down syndrome increases with the mother’s age (7):

•At age 25, the risk of having a baby with Down syndrome is 1 in 1,250.
•At age 30, the risk is 1 in 1,000.
•At age 35, the risk is 1 in 400.
•At age 40, the risk is 1 in 100.
•At age 45, the risk is 1 in 30.

Even though the risk is greater as the mother’s age increases, about 80 percent of babies with Down syndrome are born to women under age 35. This is because younger women have more babies than older women (1).
http://www.marchofdimes.com/birthdefects_downsyndrome.html

"about 80 percent of babies with Down syndrome are born to women under age 35."

[Old and In the Way]

35. Interesting...kind of shoots a hole in the 'only older women have Downs babies" meme.

What I find even more damning is Palin would have known, by this point, that the baby has Down's syndrome and that this created a much higher risk pregnancy. So why did she travel to Texas, return to Alaska after her water broke, then traveled a few hours by car to her local hospital instead of going directly to an Anchorage where the facilities must have had better medical support for her situation.

[Solomon]

51. Because she wanted God to end the pregnancy.

[Mariana]

76. She didn't do those things.

That story is made up from the word go. I don't believe even she would do what she claims to have done, and even if she decided to, would Tawd go along with it? I don't think so.

[gratuitous]

31. She may have blundered into it

Before being tapped by McCain for the national ticket, she (or her handlers) might have thought she could ride out a potential scandal that would be bad for a national candidate, but that would be barely noticed beyond the confines of the sparsely populated state she governed. Once the spotlight unexpectedly swung in her direction, there was nothing for it but to go through with the charade. Suddenly, instead of a handful of small-timers in a political backwater poking around in things (apologies to the inestimable Mud Flats and others who have kept tabs on this odious woman), everyone was sifting through everything. As conniving as Palin and her family are, they're not quite smart enough to outwit a bunch of dedicated searchers and internet hounds.

In any case, it doesn't matter two pins to me what the "real" story is. I'm keeping an eye on this for the same reason I like to watch professional sports playoffs: How does a player play under the really big pressure? The pressure grinds some good players into dust, but turns others into diamonds. And the same player may experience great success and great failure in the same year, the same series, heck the same game. How do they react to each situation? Predictably, ongoing controversy has not made Palin a more endearing personality. She's by turns whiny, petulant, or vindictive, but never seems to exhibit character growth or anything resembling grace under pressure.

[pintobean]

38. So DU would have something to talk about.

[Scuba]

39. She only did it because Bristol is the mom and ......

....Todd is the father.


This is not intended to be a factual statement.

[polichick]

40. Or maybe because Bristol wanted to abort and Sarah cut a deal with her.

[polichick]

44. Funny about the "factual statement" - Todd does seem to take care...

...of the little guy more than Sarah - 'course that's not saying much.

[ladywnch]

43. it was an immaculate conception. jebus impregnated her.

she is the next mary magdalin.....she and jebus are very close you know.....REAL close.

[Urban Prairie]

53. Yeah, if "Jeebus" was a "menage a trinity" with her Wasilla Church On The Rock

Assembly Of God's preacher David Pepper with the "hands-on" assistance of the visiting witch-hunting pastor Thomas Muthee.

[greendog]

45. She announced her pregnancy exactly one day after...

...McCain clinched the Republican nomination.

Remember that McCain was hated by the fundy base.

Remember that Palin was an unknown Governor with just a few months experience. Remember that it was the story of the down syndrome baby that electrified the base.

Without the baby she had little or no chance of being selected by the campaign. She wasn't interesting enough. She didn't have enough experience.

She was likely forced on to the ticket by the religious right and republican operatives like Bill Kristol. Some of these people had be been in touch with her early in her Governorship and were impressed. Someone probably told her that they could get her the VP nom if she had a story that resonated with the base. Trig was the story they came up with.

And I don't think Trig's DNA would match any of the Palin's. I think he's adopted. :tinfoilhat::evilgrin: :tinfoilhat:

[bettyellen]

91. yep, she was shortlisted and told to give up any goods that would ruin her chances

Mc Cains people didn't check her out at all till it was waaay late in the game. LOL, they trusted her not to accept if she had any scandals to hide. Ha, she had three, Troopergate, Housegate and maybe this too! Suckers!

[themaguffin]

48. why is this being brought now?????

[muriel_volestrangler]

58. because someone with a 'professor' title has claimed she did

And many DUers are saying "'Professor'? Well, he must be right. Any academic always gets everything right".

[Snoutport]

105. there is a whole website about that has been up since the elections.

this isn't a new story--just nobody will cover it.

[bettyellen]

54. she;s a habitual liar who has always painted her family in perfect Christian light- it;s all she

actually has to offer anyone. This perfect Mom who stumbled into politics. She has no other creds to run on, and yeah- it would have tarnished her quite a bit to have a 16 year old daughter that's pregnant out of wedlock. If her daughter hadn;t disappeared of the face of the earth for three - four months OR the hospital ever actually confirmed that kid was born when and where she said it was, this rumour would have died a long time ago. But there have been so many lies around it- saying she did show birth records when she did not, Bristol magically getting older, the birth doc not actaully saying she delivered him or to whom he was delivered, and the nonsense about running all over the country while leaking. There;s a crazy amount of inconsistancy and disinfo coming from Palin on this.

I look at pregenant bodies for a living and I thought it was crazy too, but honestly from all the pics I have seen, I have never seen anyone shaped like her. She was huge and round and normal in her previous pregnancies, and you just don;t carry so much smaller than that after a few kids. No one would behave like that with a risky pregnancy. Unless you are sick and starving yourself, which some people theorize but doesn't seeem the case at all. Glad to see you have become obsessed by this enough to start threads. LOL.

[seabeyond]

68. mama bear adn every parental decision has been poor. it is what she is running on.

yup. agree

and her labor story is a lie.

[bettyellen]

70. i wouldn't believe it if I didn;t know all too well what pregnant women look like

I have scrutinized hundreds of pregnant bodies, and no one's belly is that high and that square. It helps that she is pathological though, and a total egoist.

[Wait Wut]

57. I agree.

And...it doesn't matter. Not sure why so many feel the need to waste time on this. It makes us look as nutty as the teapers and birthers.

[Forkboy]

61. All of you people trying to get into Sarah's head...

.. are a lot braver than me. :scared:

[polichick]

65. LOL

[Urban Prairie]

66. A heavy-duty hazmat suit is definitely required

Along with an oxygen tank and several spares, 3 shotguns with several boxes of spare ammo, two semi-automatic pistols w/extra clips, a first aid kit, a carbon-monoxide detector, anti-venom antidotes for poisonous spiders or snakes, 3 geiger counters, a dozen road flares, several 100' long nylon ropes to rappel crevices, 100 glow-lights that can be dropped and used to follow back out, and a 100,000 candlepower searchlight.

:)

[Forkboy]

78. In other words, just like the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!

:)

[On the Road]

dupe

[On the Road]

63. I Tend to Agree with Your Point

but on the other, I seem to remember another pointing out cases where it has been done before.

Asking why is always necessary, but it it's something that's known to have happened, the question may be moot.

[JoePhilly]

64. Ok, this is silly, but I will play.

For the far right Christians, a pregnant unmarried teen daughter, historically speaking, is embarrassing.

Not to the general public, they don't care. But to the local religious community, it matters, and they care.

When YOUR daughter is the pregnant one, it reflects on YOU in the local religious community. The congregation talks about how YOU failed as a parent. And at times, this fact has led to families creating alternative stories of who gave birth to who.

There are lots of examples in which an unwed teen gets pregnant, quietly goes off to camp or school, and then suddenly her mom, or a married cousin or sibling, gives birth to an unexpected child that no one else was aware of.

Remember that abortion is not allowed in some of these fundamentalist religious groups. And then that a "bastard child" is not "legitimate" in many of those same churches. So, how do you give the bastard child of your daughter legitimacy? You claim it is the child of a married couple.

In this model, if Palin covered for her daughter in the Trig case, it probably has ZERO to do with politics, and everything to do with local religious doctrine. She would have been protecting her daughter from religious scorn, and also protecting a grand child from illegitimacy. It would have nothing to do with politics.

And as for the son ... the fundamentalist religious folks give the men in these situations a PASS. The man is just doing what men do. The woman is at fault for getting pregnant.

[Beaverhausen]

67. Can you explain why a woman would board a commercial airplane...

...for what ended up being a 20 hour trip while leaking amniotic fluid on a pre-term special needs baby?

I don't know what to believe but Sarah's version of Trig's birth is not very believeable.

[polichick]

73. You'd think the airline would refuse a passenger in labor.

[hedgehog]

83. and you'd be right:

http://www.babycenter.com/0_airline-policies-for-pregnant-travelers_6976.bc

[Missy Vixen]

106. I've been interestedly observing a pregnant local celebrity's Twitter feed

She is due next month. She and her spouse have made several trips in the past few weeks.

I'm wondering when she's going to find herself stopped at the gate and asked about her due date...

In the meantime, there is no way in hell Alaska Airlines would allow a woman in labor to board a lengthy flight with connection. Maybe Caribou Barbie should explain why she chose to put an entire planeload of people at risk over her medical condition.

[gkhouston]

86. They would, if they knew. n/t

[Mariana]

90. The airline, IIRC, claims that none of their personnel

who saw her before and during those flights had the slightest idea that she was pregnant, much less that she was in labor.

[polichick]

95. Wow, then it's really crazy that the media didn't pursue this.

[LLStarks]

74. I don't think much of Palin, but I don't see her as someone who would lie about a pregnancy. nt

[seabeyond]

99. during the campaign she threw her children under the bus every. single. time.

there was a parenting decision. every. single. time. it was her best interest adn not once did the kids best interest pervail.

she plays mama bear. but it is just playing, it is not the reality

[southernyankeebelle]

79. Go to Immoral Minority.blogspot.com or to Palinsgate.blogspot.com and

you will learn allot about babygate if you really are interested. I think that Trig is either Bristol baby or one of Todd's sister's baby. If you know anything about the "Wild Ride" you know she is lying. It never happened. Besides that it was said that after she had her last child she had a procedure done to have her tubes tied. People who were in a car pool with her said that Trig couldn't be hers because she also had the tips burned so for sure she couldnt have babies and she was crying about not wanting to drive when it was her turn and she would always mention about her surgery or a tubol. Those are facts. People tried to get the information out but the MSM doesn't want to cover it.

[rgbecker]

81. What makes sense is a show of the birth certificate....

So we'll never see that either.

[JackRiddler]

87. Speculation about motive comes after establishing whether or not she did such a thing.

If she didn't, she didn't. If she did, she did.

If she did, prior speculations about her possible motives proceeding from rational-reasonable criteria don't necessarily matter. You may do things by rational calculation, but perhaps she doesn't.

Here's a more rational starter question, and I'd like to hear your answer:

If her water broke, how did the baby survive 20 hours? Is this possible? After her water broke, why (and how!) did she deliver a speech, and then get on a plane to Alaska, before going to the hospital and delivering 20 hours later? (Am I getting the details of this part of the story wrong? Do you think they've been misreported?)

[ecstatic]

89. Why would she think she's Presidential material?

or even VP material? Especially after attending 6 colleges before barely eking out a Journalism degree (how did she manage to do that when she can't put together a coherent sentence?)...

There's a lot of "whys" when it comes to Ms. Palin, IMO. I haven't and don't plan to put any effort into finding out the truth, but if someone intelligent has devoted a lot of time to the issue and thinks she may have faked it, then I'm not going to dismiss the possibility!

The benefit of doubt you've granted her should be reserved for a normal person. Sarah Palin is NOT normal.

[Generic Other]

92. Look at the benefits that the kid gets as an Alaska Native Indian

These are above those he gets as an ordinary citizen born in Alaska. If his father is 1/4 native, he can claim a portion of different settlement monies than just oil money that other Alaskans get. The kid is eligible to receive stock or membership in a corporation that is organized under the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

I have a hunch her shenanigans had more to do with this stuff than a fake pregnancy. I don't know what the rules or laws are about Alaska Native status but I suspect that being an Alaska Native and being eligible for $$$ is important to Palins. Any claims Trig has to stock, settlement money, Native rights is bolstered considerably if he is actually born in the state. Just a hunch.

[jillan]

93. I'm with you Cali on this one. I think this is a conspiracy theory.

[LynneSin]

100. To save embarassment

Here she is a 'pro-family, pro-abstinence' governor. I don't think it was Bristol who was pregnant, wouldn't be surprised if Todd got someone pregnant.

Just saying

[PufPuf23]

101. I don't understand Palin nor Palin supporters -- they seem like an alien pod invasion. nt

[avaistheone1]

102. Fits with Palin's overall profile

as a liar. This is hardly a revelation.


k&r

[inna]

104. why on earth would anyone give a flying fook. unrec and sick of this crap.