How long will it be before those on the left finally say "Enough!"?

[Cascadian]

I saw the recent speech with Obama slamming the Republicans in regards to the budget. This was the Obama I voted for 2008. It was passionate and appeared straight-forward. That being said, will this rhetoric be backed with action? I also think it is no coincidence that Obama made this speech just after announcing his reelection campaign.

I have been very disappointed with Obama the last couple of years. Why you ask? His broken promises of closing Guantanamo, giving the banks a cash bailout (what about a bailout for those unemployed?), his caving-in on health care, and forsaking those striking in Wisconsin and other states. Plus, he has been too cozy with the corporatists. This is, if anything, a continuation of Bill Clinton. Another President who sold-out American workers with his free trade agreements. Obama is no socialist nor a liberal. Like Clinton, he is a Centrist Republican. Now, that the election is over a year away, those of us who have been "left at the side of the road, that being those on the progressive and left politically, are going to get another "song and dance" by Obama and the Democrats to "better vote for us or the Republicans will win!". Frankly, I am sick of this patronizing attitude. I do not want to slam Democrats wholly, but how can one not be frustrated with the pro-people, progressive, REAL liberal issues are forsaken every time a Democrat gets in? How can one be not angry whenever the Democrats, be it Obama or Congress, wimp out and cave-in to the Republicans. How long is it going to before those of us lefties finally say "Screw you!"? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!

The biggest problem with the Democratic Party is that it has been hijacked by the military/industrial complex. In fact, both parties have been taken over! They have spin-meisters and they have the money! When are some people going to wake up to that fact? People are doing the same things and expecting different results. Where is the change?

Personally, I think it won't be long before people finally wake up and realize they are all being played for fools. The political system, especially the Democratic Party needs fixing in a big, bad way! I will gladly vote Democrat if we had more progressives and we had a huge purge of all these complacent, corporate tools. I believe they are called "Blue Dogs". The Democratic Party needs fixing. Another question remains, what shall we do about it and how?



John

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[Vincardog]

1. 1) Donate your time and money to LIBERALS only. 2) When the DNC calls tell them you only donate to

real Democrats.
3) Take your time back. Spend your time making a LIFE. Fuck the fascist plan to spend your time on their corporate BS.

[hansagruber]

2. Had Enough?

Apparently we have not had enough.  One good campaign speech
pulled out of his sock drawer (must have been lost in the back
the past two years) and we are all back to the hope and change
thing.  Seriously - the man has just switched into campaign
mode. I have quite a stash of buttons and posters for anyone
who thought his latest speech was inspiring.  I won't be
needing them again.  It seems the man is totally coflict
adverse.  Is this the guy you would want to command the
calvary coming to save you?  He will be now be dispensing
little nuggets of rehtorik to his minions - I, for one, won't
be picking them up again.  I judge by actions.  Got suckered
by the great talk once.  Not again. 

[kentuck]

7. Can you be more specific??

What "actions" would you specifically like to see that the President can do by himself, independent from the House and Senate?

[hansagruber]

16. what can "he" do?

For one - use the bully pulpit. Remember Inauguration Day? No one has kept him from delivering those inspiring speeches - he did not need to go silent. Yes, I passed civics so I understand the legislative process. However, I am addressing the absence of leadership. It does no good for us to have elected a selective mute. I understand it is difficult for some to admit they were duped - maybe many even like this approach of capitulation prior to compromise. However, there are many of us who will continue to make it known that our vote will not be taken for granted and we do not applaud the audacity of preemptive compromise.

[Solomon]

3. I have had enough of these threads. How many times do we have

to read this? Over and over and over. Enough already.

[treestar]

4. +1

they had enough long, long ago. And to see everything as the OP describes it is just sad. If people see the world in as bad a light as they possibly can, what hope do they have?

You have to work pretty hard to find things to be that way.

[Cascadian]

6. Until this problem is solved,.....

Get used to it!



John

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[inna]

10. then don't read them. stop trying to shut people up, it's pretty disgusting.

:thumbsdown:

[Cascadian]

18. If anybody is telling anybody to shut up....

it is the pro-corporatist Demos and those who want the status quo to continue. My answer to them is.....HELL NO! I WON'T SHUT UP!



John

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[hansagruber]

17. over and over

It will be said and posted over and over again. Until the message is heard.

[Cascadian]

22. ALL lefties and progressives MUST NEVER EVER.....

shut up! Those who cannot handle it can just hold their hands to their ears! They probably cannot handle the truth anyway let alone the noise.




John

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[Newest Reality]

5. It seems that

a lot of political energy is geared towards preserving and strengthening the Status Quo and breaking-down what remains for those not considered a part of it.

What makes matters worse is that the Status Quo has become a raging, non-stop Plutocratic/Oligarchical orgy of MIC-erotic plunder and copious wealth-sucking.

What the newly awakened find as they rub their eyes is a rather financially pornographic system that requires substantial transformation for the people of this country and the world as well as to fulfill the impending resource and environmental crises knocking loudly at the door.

When we are awaken and then tire at being cast as voyeurs in this gigantic cluster-fuck, then, and only then might something happen. One way or another, there will be a lot of change going on -- to our benefit or detriment -- and much attention, energy and effort will have to be applied to lubricate the process liberally.

[Monique1]

8. How long will it take for the left to wake up

before they have destroyed our country.

[Cascadian]

11. And the right HAS NOT destroyed this country????

What are you? A Republican???



John

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[Cascadian]

26. Come on! Seriously! Are you a Republican or a Righty?

I am still waiting for an answer!



John
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[RaleighNCDUer]

9. What are our options? Over the past couple years it has become clear to me

that the only people who despise the Democratic Left more than the Republican Right are the Democractic Right.

I suppose that's fair - I thoroughly despise the Democratic Right more than the Republican Right. The Republicans, at least, don't pretend to me my friend.

[Cascadian]

13. When you have so-called Demos like Rahm Emanuel insulting liberals...

one must start questioning why we support these people? If they don't want us in the Democratic Party or supporting them then fine! We'll move on and support some other party. The only thing is these corporatist Demos "need" the left and progressives. It is almost comparable to being in an abusive marriage. The husband beats you but yet he needs you at the same time when it is convenient. Like an election?



John

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[RaleighNCDUer]

19. Exactly. Which is why I'm not holding my breath after this speech.

We all know Obama gives a great speech.

I'll save my applause for the follow-up action.

[Cascadian]

21. That's what I am doing.

Who knows who the Republicans are going thrust upon us in the 2012 election? If Obama does win, it will be a slim margin. So far I have not seen any reason why I can vote for him again. I am just being honest. Unless something miraculous happens and he starts growing a pair, I am reserving my right.
Actions speak louder than words!



John
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[leftstreet]

12. Voters said "ENOUGH!" in 2006 & 2008. Yet here we are

wondering when another group of people will say "enough!"

lol

[Cascadian]

14. The Congression Dems (Pelosi & Co.) have nobody to blame but themselves.

They caved-in on the Republicans along with the Neocons and Teabaggers. If they showed real leadership and some balls, they probably would have kept the House.

But they didn't, did they?





John

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[leveymg]

15. Enough.

Said that a while ago. I'll say it again . . .

[Cascadian]

20. BINGO!

More people need to start standing up to this crap! I have had it! I want the old Democratic Party back or........!

We won't be fooled again!




John

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[hansagruber]

24. Fool me once

OK - I fell for it. That speechifying had me absolutely sure that we had a leader who not only had brains, but the ability to communicate. Two years of silence. Now I hear nothing but clever quips and view that overpowering, milewide smile. Fooled me once. Not again. This time I will watch his actions. If I want entertainment, I will turn to the comedy channel - I want a leader using his bully pulpit and political capital. It is even more discouraging to see that he simply has been giving it a rest - turns out he still knows how to campaign. He should have campaigned on: "Hey, I have some great ideas but I am only one guy. Don't expect too much out of me. I don't like confrontation."

[Bonhomme Richard]

23. I'm waiting for the middle to say enough.

That's when things will begin to change.

[polichick]

25. After the vote on the "Peoples Budget" a whole lot more should say enough.

[grahamhgreen]

27. The crapsurance bill did it for me.

[Cascadian]

30. That was a huge disappointment for me!

Obama should have stood up to the Tea Party crowd and their insurance backers and gave them the finger. I was really hoping for some substantial health care program but all we got from it is crumbs. On top of that, the health insurance companies are now more powerful than they ever have been as a result.




John

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[Cascadian]

28. We must vote on principle.

This is what we must do. A lot of people have forgotten that concept.





John

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[SadPanda]

29. I think Obama has done a wonderful job of attempting to carry out 8 years of Democratic Progressive

POWER...

He has made tremendous progress. Certainly it is far less than what we had hoped for but the reality is that we got a strong stimulus package, a strong healthcare bill, virtually no open combat in Iraq with less than 40,000 American soldiers in Iraq, SUCCESS IN SPREADING PRO WESTERN THOUGHT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, and what will be a MAJOR victory on the federal budget. Come November 2012 the Bush Tax cuts will be gone and the economy will still be growing.

[sabrina 1]

32. Lol! funny post!

'pro-western thought in the ME' ~ :rofl:

'less than 40,000 troops in Iraq'! I'm glad you're here at DU where you hopefully you will become more informed. Do you know how many mercenaries we have in Iraq?? Do you know that there are more of them now than the regular army? Have you been paying NO attention to what is going on in the ME, and in Iraq specifically? :eyes:

'a strong stimulus package'!! That was meant to be funny, wasn't it? Or were you talking about the 'stimulus package for Wall St.'?

'a strong healthcare bill'!! You mean a windfall for the Big Ins, the middlemen that we not only do not need, but who are gobbling up public funds in profits that SHOULD be going to healthcare.

I just read your post again and I'm not sure if you were trying to be funny or not. But it made ME laugh regardless.

[white_wolf]

31. I'll be honest here. Elections are not enough.

The Left has to be out in the open, in the streets and workplaces making people aware of what is happening in this country. We have to wake people up to the fact that the rich are waging a war on middle class and poor people and it is time for us to fight back. We also must make it clear to our members of Congress and the president that if you do not do what we want, we will vote you out in the next election and replace with you people who will serve us.