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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:12 PM Original message |
Bradley Manning Can Be Both a Criminal and a Hero. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. downloading tens of thousands with hope of criminal or embarassing data is not hero |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. He is a f---g traitor in my opinion and deserves whatever he |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. that is how i see it. i see nothing admirable. nt |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. He knew enough to know there would be crimes uncovered, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. i could go into any computer, download tons and find something to embarass a company, govt, person |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. How blithely you overlook the war crimes that have been revealed. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. i guess we interpret the info differently. learning putin is an alpha dog really |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Propagandizing that the cables only contained insignificant info won't make it true. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. kinda like insisting and demanding he is a hero is not gonna make him one. nt |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Pretending that nothing of substance has been release is purposely ignoring |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. he has downloaded tens of thousands. a couple pieces that MIGHT be worth anything |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. From February 2011: Cablegate to Date: 32 Major Revelations (and Counting) |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Over Half of 2011's New York Times Issues Rely on WikiLeaks |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Are you still peddling this line? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And what is wrong with our people that we condemn not the crimes but those |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Indeed. Except you mean condemn, not commend. But I understand and agree. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Ack! Stupid dyslexia! (Thank you.) |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Embarrassment is different than criminal acts. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. i really see this issue differently than you |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's no hero. He would also be high on the list of people no one should ever want to be in a foxhole |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. He's absolutely a hero. Crimes have been exposed thanks to him. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. He's a traitor. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Not in the least. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Well... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
43. I completely agree. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. i absolutely would nto trust him, with not only my back, but anything else |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. Why would anyone want to be in a foxhole with anyone? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Indeed |
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Phoenix63 (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Manning took an oath... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. +1 |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Barack Obama took an oath too |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. I really don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. In fact, that oath arguably obligates him to reveal wrongdoing when he finds it. |
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rgbecker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. +2 |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. Nope... just criminal... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I strongly disagree. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Good point... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yep. A criminal act is not always an unjust act... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Of course he can be. The question is, though, is he? |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
25. Yes, as I remember Nelson Mandela spent many years in jail, and he is |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Please. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. How dare Manning betray the pervasive corruption of the political class. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
42. We built monuments to the "criminals" and "traitors" of 1776. Now we imprison one. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
44. Indeed, there is a fine tradition of disobeying immoral laws. |
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