Storms fueled by Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria

[Cetacea]

None dare call it global warming.

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/severe-weather-tornadoes-lanina-110427-1446/

[Drale]

1. DAMN THAT COLUMBUS!!!

:rofl:

[MineralMan]

2. I think we really have to be careful with this.

Until there is a trend of increasingly-powerful storm activity, we can't actually link the recent storms to climate change or global warming.

It very well might be linked, but there's not enough evidence to say that it IS linked.

If we're going to talk about weather and climate, we have to be sure we're speaking correctly.

The past few days' storms are weather, not climate. The difference is important.

[Cetacea]

4. True enough.

The OP was partially inspired by a comment made by a right-leaning elder over Easter dinner. She is eighty years old. As the convo changed to the tornadoes she said that she never heard of these "El nino" explanations until the late 1970s/early 1980s. She correctly noted that it was around that time when people were beginning to notice how the winters in NY had gotten more mild since "we were kids".
To that I would add that Mockingbirds, traditionally a southern bird, are now common throughout the US. If one were to look at the WIKI entry for mockingbirds, there is no mention of this.

[MineralMan]

6. Haven't seen a mockingbird in Minnesota yet, but I've seen

some others that are moving north.

[theophilus]

7. Here are some places to look....

http://www.chacha.com/question/where-do-you-find-mockingbirds-in-minnesota


...if you have any spare time.

[Drale]

5. El Nino and La Nina have nothing to do with Global Weather change

They are as far as we can tell natural process that have been happening forever. Now Climate change might effect them but it is not the rout cause.

[theophilus]

8. Why be careful? Let's stimulate the RWers fear zones and maybe

we can all benefit. We need to stop ejecting so much CO2 and the less fossil fuel poison we squirt into the environment the better. If we "play nice" by being didactically accurate we will suffer IN THE LONG RUN. IMO

[Lars39]

9. NASA study you might want to read:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/moist_convection.html

[RedCloud]

3. 4 myths in one. Ay caramba.

Here are those ships:

La Santa Clara (not la Niña)
La de Pinto (not renamed due to submersion)
Marigalante (dirty mary)

And that carajo:

From Barcelona: Cristóbal Colón.