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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:54 PM
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Saggy pants lead to tasering of Wichita student

Saggy pants lead to tasering of Wichita student

By Fred Mann | Wichita Eagle

DERBY — A Derby High School sophomore said today that he was hit by a Taser and had his arm broken by two school resource officers for refusing to pull up his pants.

The Derby Police Department said it will investigate the incident. The officers work for the department.

The teen and the Police Department offered differing accounts of what happened.

Jonathan Villarreal, 17, said he was walking with friends to the bus after school on Wednesday when one of the officers ordered him to pull up his pants. He told them he could wear them how he wanted because school was out, he said.



Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/29/113408/saggy-pants-lead-to-tasering-of.html#ixzz1KwKCK4Nb
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:02 PM
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1. Sounds like more people that need to be fired.
direct link:
http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/28/1827093/derby-teen-says-officers-injured.html

Kid doesn't kissup to them so kid gets a boot to the head, and is 'under arrest' for what telling them off? Not going limp when they pounce on him for no reason? In trying to bring him back on school property after school let out they found him dangerous and ended up breaking his arm as he tried to get away from his attackers then is tasered because he seemed 'aggressive' to them.

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:05 PM
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3. Boots to the Head are part of our education now.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:02 PM
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2. Jesus!
What the hell is that officer's problem, anyway? School was over. Why would low pants be worth tasering?
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:06 PM
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4. Leave the tasering to the parents.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:10 PM
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5. They struck him in the eye after the cuffs were on
How will they possibly justify that part?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:23 PM
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17. How can they possibly justify using enough force to break an arm?
Why would they care how someone is dressed if it was AFTER SCHOOL and outside of the school?

They tried to get him to go back into the school and he refused, so obviously he was no longer inside the school where he was any of their business.

Why would force ever be justified over how some kid wears his pants? Seriously, there is no possible reason that how some kid is dressed is ever a justification for violence.

If he had been inside and his clothes violated some dress code then they should have written him up. They never had any justification for touching him. Never.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:11 PM
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6. I hate the saggy pants, but I hate overzealous law enforcement more. nt
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:13 PM
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7. The comment at the link is awful...
Didn't like the taser? Next time they can use a staple gun to keep his pants from falling down.

To another comment about the girls; I don't like seeing those muffin-tops with their bare midriffs and fat rolling out over the pants either.

Whatever happened to personal pride and respect?

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/29/113408/saggy-pants-lead-to-tasering-of.html#ixzz1KwPNVs2l

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:54 PM
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8. awful.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:24 PM
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9. Let me guess, Jonathan is black?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:24 PM
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10. Villareal is a Latino name.
But I imagine these cops would electrocute anyone with baggy pants, regardless of race. That's just the right-wing mindset.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:09 PM
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12. Interstingly, they are trying to outlaw baggy pants here, in this teeny town.
The one council member who spoke up against it, is black.
She quoted some novel idea like "freedom of expression".
:sarcasm:

Since we have all white private schools and mostly black public schools,
I will leave you to draw your own conclusions about why the sudden need for a pants dress code.

why do I think it is race related?

Because this is a very small town and I not seen any saggy pants around town, in grocery stores, etc,
except
by school age kids near the public schools AND by black youth near the low income housing neighborhood.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:30 PM
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11. Photo
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:22 PM
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13. the ragged bell bottoms or torn blue jeans
of this generation. I got hassled for my hair as a HS kid. It is all about generational identity and what's "cool" is almost certainly not what the parents or grandparents think is cool...duh!
We can say the baggy pants are dumb, but the boys wear 'em cause the girls dig 'em...so has it always been. If their peer group females didn't approve, they'd be in the skinny jeans yesterday...duh!
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:45 PM
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15. You're right, I try not to make judgements since I can still remember being judged by old farts.
Actually, as I recall, part of the fun was driving the older generation nuts with our behavior and dress. All power to the people, right on!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:30 PM
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14. The fact that this kind of police brutality is tolerated shows there's no such thing as a good cop.
If the "good cops" were actually being remotely conscientious, they'd be cracking down hard on the roid-raging wife-beating thugs responsible for incidents like this.

But they don't. Every time there's a police abuse incident, the "good" cops form up in the blue line and protect their fellow thugs. That cop with the smile that rescues kittens will turn the other way when the thug in his unit shoots an unarmed man in the back of the head.

Fine. It's all-for-one and one-for-all among cops? Have it your way. Every time a thug commits an atrocity on duty, I will treat the kitten-rescuers with the same level of contempt as I give to the thugs that break a kid's arm because he didn't hitch up his pants.

ALL COPS ARE TRASH!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:47 PM
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16. What is with this Stasi mentality among some law enforcement officials?

It's like they just can't wait to give somebody a beat down.






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