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Fiendish Thingy
Fiendish Thingy's Journal
Fiendish Thingy's Journal
October 5, 2024
Unless the aggregators suddenly start excluding Red Wave polls from their averages (RCP definitely wont, and its highly unlikely 538 will either), it will mean polling averages from now until Election Day cannot be trusted.
https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/the-hungry-harris-campaign-early
Additional essential reading on the current state of polling:
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-09-25-polling-imperilment/
The fact of the matter is, for the next 30 days we will essentially be flying blind, with only the knowledge that Harris has a superior GOTV ground game to comfort us.
Rosenberg: Red Wave pollsters step up their work this week
Red Wave Pollsters Stepped Up Their Work This Week - The red wavers stepped up their activity this past week, releasing at least 20 polls across the battlegrounds. Its a sign that they are worried about the public polling in both the Presidential and the Senate, and have dramatically escalated their efforts to push the polling averages to the right and make the election look redder than it is. As in 2022, these polls usually between 2 and 4 points more Republican than the independent polling so when there a lot of them they can move the averages rightward.
Here is what was released in the past week:
Emerson - National, AZ, NC, PA
Cygnal - IA
Insider Advantage - AZ, GA, NC, NV
McLaughlin - FL
Mitchell Comms - MI
OnMessage - PA
Patriot Polling - PA
Remington - MI, MT, NV, PA, WI
RMG - National, FL, MI, NC, TX
Texas Gun Rights - TX
Trafalgar - MI, PA, WI
Victory Insights - FL
While they released polls in many states this week the states that have received the most red wave polls few weeks are Montana, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Over the past 10 days, depending on how you characterize the pollsters, they released at least 5 and as many 7 polls in Pennsylvania alone. Their recent flood of polls in NC and PA tipped the Real Clear Politics polling average for each state to Trump, which then in turn got Trump to 281 in their corrupt Electoral College map. Yes, in Real Clear Politics Trump is now winning the election due to their gamesmanship.
(Snip)
As I wrote in my last look at this rancid project, it is time for those who analyze polls to start acknowledging that there is now a third type of poll - the red wave, right-aligned narrative polling that only exist for a single purpose - to move the polling averages to the right. They are exploiting the toss it in the averages and everything will work out philosophy of these sites to once again launder these polls and game the averages - and thus our understanding of the election. Party leaders should expect them to keep these polls coming, and keep working the averages until it looks like Trump is winning in all polling averages. It is what they did in 2022, and it worked. They are doing it again this time, and once again it is working as the averages are moving and everyone is treating this movement like an organic rather than a deeply corrupt process.
Here is what was released in the past week:
Emerson - National, AZ, NC, PA
Cygnal - IA
Insider Advantage - AZ, GA, NC, NV
McLaughlin - FL
Mitchell Comms - MI
OnMessage - PA
Patriot Polling - PA
Remington - MI, MT, NV, PA, WI
RMG - National, FL, MI, NC, TX
Texas Gun Rights - TX
Trafalgar - MI, PA, WI
Victory Insights - FL
While they released polls in many states this week the states that have received the most red wave polls few weeks are Montana, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Over the past 10 days, depending on how you characterize the pollsters, they released at least 5 and as many 7 polls in Pennsylvania alone. Their recent flood of polls in NC and PA tipped the Real Clear Politics polling average for each state to Trump, which then in turn got Trump to 281 in their corrupt Electoral College map. Yes, in Real Clear Politics Trump is now winning the election due to their gamesmanship.
(Snip)
As I wrote in my last look at this rancid project, it is time for those who analyze polls to start acknowledging that there is now a third type of poll - the red wave, right-aligned narrative polling that only exist for a single purpose - to move the polling averages to the right. They are exploiting the toss it in the averages and everything will work out philosophy of these sites to once again launder these polls and game the averages - and thus our understanding of the election. Party leaders should expect them to keep these polls coming, and keep working the averages until it looks like Trump is winning in all polling averages. It is what they did in 2022, and it worked. They are doing it again this time, and once again it is working as the averages are moving and everyone is treating this movement like an organic rather than a deeply corrupt process.
Unless the aggregators suddenly start excluding Red Wave polls from their averages (RCP definitely wont, and its highly unlikely 538 will either), it will mean polling averages from now until Election Day cannot be trusted.
https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/the-hungry-harris-campaign-early
Additional essential reading on the current state of polling:
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-09-25-polling-imperilment/
The fact of the matter is, for the next 30 days we will essentially be flying blind, with only the knowledge that Harris has a superior GOTV ground game to comfort us.
September 26, 2024
In 2016, I experienced the desolation of my candidate for president losing after the most respected polling experts told me she had a 71.4 percent, 85 percent, 98.2 percent, and even 99 percent chance of winning. As a historian, I was studying how Ronald Reagans runaway landslide in 1980 was proceeded by every pollster but one supremely confident that the race was just about tied. Ive just finished a fine book published in 2020 that confirms an intuition Ive been chewing on since then. It turns out this is practically the historical norm. W. Joseph Campbells Lost in a Gallup: Polling Failure in U.S. Presidential Elections demonstratesfor the first time, strangely enough, given the robust persuasiveness of its conclusionsthat presidential polls are almost always wrong, consistently, in deeply patterned ways.
Update- heres one of the most impactful sections of the whole article:
He also EVISCERATES (sorry for click bait caps) Nate Silver and his fall from grace).
Bottom line:
Nobody really knows anything about who the potential winner of the election will be.
Methadone for polling addicts
If this article doesnt get you to quit allowing every poll to induce massive despair or euphoria, then you just might be beyond help.
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-09-25-polling-imperilment/
(Should be no paywall)
The whole article is essential reading, but here is the first paragraph:
In 2016, I experienced the desolation of my candidate for president losing after the most respected polling experts told me she had a 71.4 percent, 85 percent, 98.2 percent, and even 99 percent chance of winning. As a historian, I was studying how Ronald Reagans runaway landslide in 1980 was proceeded by every pollster but one supremely confident that the race was just about tied. Ive just finished a fine book published in 2020 that confirms an intuition Ive been chewing on since then. It turns out this is practically the historical norm. W. Joseph Campbells Lost in a Gallup: Polling Failure in U.S. Presidential Elections demonstratesfor the first time, strangely enough, given the robust persuasiveness of its conclusionsthat presidential polls are almost always wrong, consistently, in deeply patterned ways.
Update- heres one of the most impactful sections of the whole article:
Many pollsters decisions about methodology are by necessity subjective, even arbitrary. Campbell lists a quick half-dozen: how they list a candidates job title; the order in which the choices are stated; the gender of the interviewer; whether its done by phone, internet, or in person; even the day of the week. The pollsters can likewise be arbitrary once the numbers come in. Lost in a Gallup notes a fascinating experiment carried out by Nate Cohn for The New York Times. He had four pollsters interpret the same raw data from a 2016 poll of Florida. Their choices in how to weight ranged from Clinton winning by four percentage points to Trump winning by one.
Cohn concluded, Clearly, the reported margin of error due to sampling doesnt even come close to capturing total survey error There really is a lot of flexibility for pollsters to make choices that generate a fundamentally different result.
Cohn concluded, Clearly, the reported margin of error due to sampling doesnt even come close to capturing total survey error There really is a lot of flexibility for pollsters to make choices that generate a fundamentally different result.
He also EVISCERATES (sorry for click bait caps) Nate Silver and his fall from grace).
Bottom line:
Nobody really knows anything about who the potential winner of the election will be.
September 8, 2024
Larry Sabato says current swing state polls are unreliable
https://twitter.com/LarrySabato/status/1832763586940178498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1832763586940178498%7Ctwgr%5E60100c253d47d129859cfa74c58943869e113826%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigbysblog.net%2F
September 2, 2024
For Labor Day: Billy Bragg - "There Is Power In A Union"
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September 2, 2024
For Labor Day: Woody Guthrie via OCMS
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August 26, 2024
P.S. Marc Elias is now a lawyer for the Harris campaign)
Democracy Docket: WHAT HAPPENS IF ELECTION OFFICIALS REFUSE TO CERTIFY RESULTS?
(All caps title because so many folks are so confused and anxious about this issue)
WATCH THE WHOLE DAMN VIDEO!
(If you do, youll probably sleep better)
P.S. Marc Elias is now a lawyer for the Harris campaign)
August 22, 2024
Michigan Secretary Of State reads angry election tweets
Lots of excellent mythbusting in this video:
August 5, 2024
Strict Scrutiny: breaking down Project 2025's plans for reproductive rights, divorce, porn
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August 5, 2024
Truly horrific beyond the imagination:
More chilling details at the link.
Digby blog: The Dystopians
https://digbysblog.net/2024/08/04/the-dystopians/Truly horrific beyond the imagination:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed not productive: convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.
He then concluded that the best humane alternative to genocide is to virtualize these people: Imprison them in permanent solitary confinement where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an immersive virtual-reality interface so they could experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.
Yarvins disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers, chief among them: tech billionaire Peter Thiel and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. Vance, whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald Trumps vice president. If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvins twisted techno-authoritarianism to the White House, and one can imaginewith horrorwhat a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.
Trumps first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics, but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years, hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas. Yarvin was one of them. Way back in 2012, in a speech on How to Reboot the US Government, he said, If Americans want to change their government, theyre going to have to get over their dictator phobia. He had also written favorably of slavery and white nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).
He then concluded that the best humane alternative to genocide is to virtualize these people: Imprison them in permanent solitary confinement where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an immersive virtual-reality interface so they could experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.
Yarvins disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers, chief among them: tech billionaire Peter Thiel and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. Vance, whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald Trumps vice president. If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvins twisted techno-authoritarianism to the White House, and one can imaginewith horrorwhat a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.
Trumps first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics, but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years, hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas. Yarvin was one of them. Way back in 2012, in a speech on How to Reboot the US Government, he said, If Americans want to change their government, theyre going to have to get over their dictator phobia. He had also written favorably of slavery and white nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).
More chilling details at the link.
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