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noiretextatique

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110. Yet...that is not what this "ad"is saying

Sun Dec 1, 2013, 01:52 PM

Dec 2013

This ad implies that "regret" motivates women to say they were raped. There is no nuance or "case by case" consideration in that message. And it is an idiotic assertion, for the most. That does not mean false accusation does not happen, but as others have mentioned, it is not as big of a problem as actual rape. A better meesage would be: just because you want sex does not mean you are entitled to rape. Don't be THAT guy.

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I'm speechless, just saw this on Facebook... [View all] HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 OP

That is disgusting. Delphinus Nov 2013 #1

+1 Scuba Nov 2013 #18

Can't imagine very many women thinking in those terms. What? lumpy Nov 2013 #20

Hideous get the red out Nov 2013 #55

Consider the source... Bigmack Nov 2013 #2

woa. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #26

It speaks volumes that the guy spells "Klansmen" wrong... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #27

What's a mangina? n/t tammywammy Nov 2013 #37

From the website... Bigmack Nov 2013 #47

I didn't want to give them hits. tammywammy Nov 2013 #49

A real woman hating organization get the red out Nov 2013 #56

I blame these people for this... L0oniX Dec 2013 #97

Yeah, I had sex before and regretted it... Lobo27 Nov 2013 #3

What a condescending fucking, fucking idiotic, idiotic facebook post. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #4

Looking at their website, Anders Brevik killed all those people because his mother alientated him uppityperson Nov 2013 #5

FFS cyberswede Nov 2013 #19

And what of abusive fathers? Seems mothers are assumed to be the bad guys no matter what... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #36

That is disgusting Gothmog Nov 2013 #6

"Woe is me," CorrectOfCenter Nov 2013 #7

It is a shitty answer to the "Don't be that Guy" ad campaign Warpy Nov 2013 #8

Just because you regret it doesn't mean it wasn't rape! kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #9

Rape apologists. Iggo Nov 2013 #10

gaaaaaaaaaaaaag nt hopemountain Nov 2013 #11

I am speechless as well. nt Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #12

avoiceformen.com can go fuck itself. City Lights Nov 2013 #13

it's damn sure NOT a voice for THIS man! Ken Burch Nov 2013 #28

Good luck with that. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #57

+1 ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #94

What's sad and pathetic is that you really believe that. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #115

Two things. gollygee Dec 2013 #118

Doesn't change my opinion one bit. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #121

lol Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #119

I know, right! RiffRandell Dec 2013 #122

There are also people who get banned from DU, complain about it on their blogs, then come back to do Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #123

I hate to channel Judd Nelson, but this sums it up perfectly. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #125

IKR? opiate69 Dec 2013 #127

Wait... opiate69 Dec 2013 #131

Of course no one's going to agree outright (because it would get them banned). nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #136

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you agree with the poster I responded to that RiffRandell Dec 2013 #144

At the least, the way they frame things is a bit too MRA-ish for a progressive site. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #145

The avoiceformen website has been called a hate site many times. tclambert Nov 2013 #14

I can see why. Iggo Nov 2013 #60

American Taliban Burf-_- Nov 2013 #15

sick Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #16

HORRIBLY disgusting! Cooley Hurd Nov 2013 #17

Grrr... WillyT Nov 2013 #21

That's a kick in the gut disgusting! Who ARE these men? mountain grammy Nov 2013 #22

I don't know them, or want to be associated with them. Initech Dec 2013 #83

Totally agree it is disgusting but... iandhr Nov 2013 #23

Repulsive YarnAddict Nov 2013 #24

Because, you know... kag Nov 2013 #25

They should not be THAT person. renie408 Nov 2013 #29

"Don't be THAT Girl"....? Ken Burch Nov 2013 #30

who didn't love THAT GIRL and Marlo Thomas? yurbud Nov 2013 #33

yes they're probably a horrible organization dlwickham Nov 2013 #31

Your post sucks. Raine1967 Nov 2013 #34

I agree. Sucky post. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #88

"Just because someone regrets having sex does not make it rape." I think most everyone knows that. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #38

most everyone SHOULD know that dlwickham Nov 2013 #42

Who? Specifically and precisely who? LanternWaste Dec 2013 #108

you don't think there have false rape reports dlwickham Dec 2013 #112

And yet false accusations, based on every halfway reliable stat I've ever seen, are still no higher nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #132

Most everyone knows that they shouldn't rape... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #68

What really pisses me off is the assumption that anyone would go around making willy-nilly nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #70

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Dec 2013 #99

well decaff, go figure, and once again you way in on the side of anti woman. seabeyond Dec 2013 #74

If i remember correctly, your underwear was in a twist... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #91

"way in".... opiate69 Dec 2013 #120

Please, think about deleting your post. Raine1967 Nov 2013 #43

if you don't like my post dlwickham Nov 2013 #44

I don't like your post. Raine1967 Nov 2013 #51

His post isn't disrestectful DefenseLawyer Nov 2013 #58

2-3% both in u.s. and u.k. 2-3%. unlike what this mans org and other promote 45-75% rape cases false seabeyond Nov 2013 #61

He wasn't defending the dumb website DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #89

If people actually *did* deal with every case on its merits, there wouldn't be a problem. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #134

British Home Office study (2005) seabeyond Nov 2013 #62

Context is your friend. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #64

There may be false accusations treestar Dec 2013 #71

Not "may be"; there are. Period. DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #93

But nowadays, premarital sex is accepted treestar Dec 2013 #95

You exemplify the problem DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #101

Why assume there are women who would treestar Dec 2013 #105

Why assume anything at all? DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #111

It's just not likely nowadays and that's why the FB post treestar Dec 2013 #113

The Facebook post is ridiculous DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #116

Oh yes it sure as shit is. It's called context. the OP demonstrates just how vile this cali Dec 2013 #87

"Probably"? Just gotta plant that little seed of doubt, doesn't he? nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #135

"probably"? No. There is fucking more than enough evidence to state that he's a vile piece of shit cali Dec 2013 #86

As I read your post awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #103

sure...false accusation is as big of a problem as rape noiretextatique Dec 2013 #109

Exactly - false equivalency is just it. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #137

perspective and proportion: what concepts!!! noiretextatique Dec 2013 #146

Two things your average right-wing MRA/"libertarian" type certainly lacks. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #147

"That meme is correct" geek tragedy Dec 2013 #124

No woman would be ALLOWED to carry a rape accusation based solely on "regret" very far. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #129

This makes me sick. n/t Raine1967 Nov 2013 #32

Hell is not good enough TNNurse Nov 2013 #35

Hey it is your decision to get raped now! lunasun Nov 2013 #39

Whoever came up with that is a sick, sick bastard sakabatou Nov 2013 #40

As usual with these guys, they take a tiny sliver of truth and blow it up into a delusional nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #41

Most men on this earth would say the same thing. Thank you for saying this. Raine1967 Nov 2013 #45

That's how I see it. Bonobo Dec 2013 #67

Precisely. And I could also say that, if you don't want to be accused (falsely or otherwise) nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #69

That's true too. Bonobo Dec 2013 #73

Definitely not black and white by any means. Though in your particular case it seems highly unlikely nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #79

This is anti-woman propaganda to put it mildly. westerebus Dec 2013 #107

Well weissmam Nov 2013 #46

If I was not a human being DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #48

The implication that women cry rape simply because they regret it Bonobo Nov 2013 #50

+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #52

You shouldn't make broad statements about what "women" do. DefenseLawyer Nov 2013 #59

defense? attorney? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #63

Probably defends... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #104

"Let facts speak for themselves in every case." Of course. But that, quite often, is not nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #65

I am all for public support of victims. DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #90

Just saying that, just as the accused is innocent until proven guilty, the accuser is telling the nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #133

Yet...that is not what this "ad"is saying noiretextatique Dec 2013 #110

agreed, if that had any validity treestar Dec 2013 #72

Disgusting to the nth degree.... ReRe Nov 2013 #53

It is reasonable to assume that every woman who ever had sex of any kind with this asshole... bvar22 Nov 2013 #54

The only women who WOULDN'T regret sex with that asshole... Ken Burch Dec 2013 #128

So this site calls itself "A voice for men", huh? Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #66

White supremacists also claim to represent "the entire white race." Dash87 Dec 2013 #78

disgusting, i am speechless Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #75

The owner of AVoiceForMen.com is a massive idiot. Dash87 Dec 2013 #76

I wasn't aware of this site before I saw this HarveyDarkey Dec 2013 #77

And it shows how the "Men's Rights" meme - while generally sad and laughable - is also nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #140

All I have to say about AVfM xulamaude Dec 2013 #80

Real bottom feeders these ones. moxybug Dec 2013 #81

Good old fashioned slut shaming. How dast she leave the house w/o a duenna? Hekate Dec 2013 #82

The assholes doth protest too much. cui bono Dec 2013 #84

Disgusting and misogynistic. Poor victim guy. Shrike47 Dec 2013 #85

It's a MRA "public relations" ad ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #92

I always file a rape charge when a sportfuck goes badly elehhhhna Dec 2013 #96

My fucking god... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #98

How about don't be THAT guy mzteris Dec 2013 #100

This ^^^^^ treestar Dec 2013 #117

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #102

What utter bullshit. avoiceformen? Not for me! n/t gtar100 Dec 2013 #106

That is vile maddezmom Dec 2013 #114

Barf! Are they telling women they don't know what rape is? This is so demeaning to women. The Wielding Truth Dec 2013 #126

stupid obsession Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #130

While ignoring that the vast majority of victims never see any real justice. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #138

the false accuations don't help any Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #139

Sure. But they're generally no more frequent than for any other crime - say less than 5% - nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #141

I agree.. Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #142

These guys seem to think that women as a whole are somehow in conspiracy against them. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #143