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61. Compare it to Haiti and it is.

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Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:26 PM

Dec 2014

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Haiti is basically Cuba with uninterrupted US rule. In what ways is Haiti in better shape that Cuba?

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Can someone please explain to me why older Cubans are so upset about Obama's Cuba Policy? [View all] CatWoman Dec 2014 OP

So anti-Castro KamaAina Dec 2014 #1

so you are saying these people prospered under Batista? CatWoman Dec 2014 #2

Pretty much. KamaAina Dec 2014 #4

but Batista was a much bigger asshole than Castro ever was CatWoman Dec 2014 #6

You got it. KamaAina Dec 2014 #8

the anti castro cubans are right wing, castro is communist. m-lekktor Dec 2014 #9

yes, he was librechik Dec 2014 #10

Not only that, Bautista was joined at the hip hifiguy Dec 2014 #16

+1 NoDoubt Dec 2014 #40

All the wealthy in Cuba prospered off the backs of the poor until Castro's revolution. Then demosincebirth Dec 2014 #7

I've watched some documentaries about the revolution CatWoman Dec 2014 #11

Yes, which makes me wonder why we ignore the social changes that happened since the revolution. jwirr Dec 2014 #14

Castro bragged that he "flushed the toilets " AngryAmish Dec 2014 #49

You mean a leader we were known to have attempted to assassinate didn't harbor LOVE for us?! WinkyDink Dec 2014 #57

It was under the Carter administration azmom Dec 2014 #50

Since when does the US support such govts? (See: Chile; Nicaragua; Venezuela; et al.) WinkyDink Dec 2014 #55

You got it. Also, Havana was a wide-open gambling town like Vegas Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #18

I'm glad you posted this. Jim Beard Dec 2014 #28

IMO Mr Dixon Dec 2014 #52

Many fled Cuba BainsBane Dec 2014 #31

Don't forget the thousands and thousands or criminals and mental patients Castro dumped on Miami snooper2 Dec 2014 #45

People forget that Castro was brutal after his takeover ripcord Dec 2014 #75

Was he any more brutal than Batista? n/t markpkessinger Dec 2014 #81

Yes. "Prospered" at the great expense of the peasants. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #54

Batista was a friend of the Bush Family also. Right Wing dictators, we love them in sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #60

The Bacardi trademark is going to be a problem jberryhill Dec 2014 #26

They Hate Castro RobinA Dec 2014 #66

Money, Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2014 #3

True that spinbaby Dec 2014 #15

Don't forget the Mafia. hifiguy Dec 2014 #17

I remember that scene in "The Godfather" when Michael goes down to Havana... CTyankee Dec 2014 #82

The Cuban revolution was not only azmom Dec 2014 #58

I asked my Cuban friend this very question a few weeks ago. DawgHouse Dec 2014 #5

Some of them lost property and businesses. upaloopa Dec 2014 #12

Many of the older Cubans living in the US are the ones Castro was fighting. jwirr Dec 2014 #13

Why would you think all people from Cuba are pro-Castro? Rex Dec 2014 #19

I was not saying, nor do I think all Cubans are "pro Castro" CatWoman Dec 2014 #21

I think the ones you hear complaining the most are anti-Castro Rex Dec 2014 #22

As long as US interests declared Cuba a rogue state, it gave legitimizing cover to the claims of Bautistites Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #20

Castro took their wealth (hugely from corrupt enterprises and organized crime), took their land that kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #23

Castro took (back) their wealth... took (back) their land... "that they had taken from..." cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #36

The US pressured other countries not to do business with Cuba. Demit Dec 2014 #42

Compare it to Haiti and it is. Marr Dec 2014 #61

Kick for now! Cha Dec 2014 #24

They lost their businesses, their property applegrove Dec 2014 #25

Who gives a shit about Capitalist pigs' "human rights"? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #34

Human rights are human rights. I‘m applegrove Dec 2014 #37

+1 NoDoubt Dec 2014 #41

There was a correction-- the revolution. Marr Dec 2014 #63

You all need to watch this.........very enlightening........ thelordofhell Dec 2014 #27

I want good cheap SUGAR Jim Beard Dec 2014 #29

Everybody's covered it, but here's my local radio wingnut's version UTUSN Dec 2014 #30

after watching that video in response #27, I have to agree CatWoman Dec 2014 #43

They are what we would call robber barons, rapacious in their capitalism UTUSN Dec 2014 #47

Because they were the ones profiting from the US-backed regime Castro overthrew. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #32

Who cares what some old Cuban living in Florida thinks about it?? Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #33

So true MH, the most striking thing is how the older exile Cubans in Miami flamingdem Dec 2014 #56

It's simple. They wanted to return as GODS. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #35

They can't accept that the greed-based, white supremacist Cuba of their youth Ken Burch Dec 2014 #38

+1 Exactly B Calm Dec 2014 #44

I recently found out that Batista was a mulatto CatWoman Dec 2014 #46

Yes, Batista was biracial(I'd advise against using the word "Mulatto", which means "little mule). Ken Burch Dec 2014 #68

that's the term Skip used -- not me CatWoman Dec 2014 #84

Batista took power in a coup, too-- and used executions and torture to Marr Dec 2014 #64

Here's the lyrics to a song by Ewan MacColl about the whole era, and what happened later: Ken Burch Dec 2014 #77

Some of them may face a trial in Cuba now Ken Burch Dec 2014 #39

A lot of people lost property and in some cases lives as result of the cuban revolution. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #48

A lot of wealthy people lost property. The Bacardi family for example. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #74

They lost everything, became refugees, and were forced to rebuild their lives here. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #51

Anti-Castro. Were privileged, lost money in the Revolution, fled to US. Bitter ever since. See: WinkyDink Dec 2014 #53

Many people in older generations suffered greatly under Castro. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #59

so true steve2470 Dec 2014 #62

Not sure why some don't want to recognize the bad. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #65

The same thing happened under Lenin steve2470 Dec 2014 #67

Well stated. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #69

You make a valid point . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #83

Finally eissa Dec 2014 #70

Thank you for that. Much better than I put it. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #71

+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #72

Good post. 840high Dec 2014 #76

I've talked to two Cubans since the announcement and both are very excited. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #73

They're right-wingers n/t Matrosov Dec 2014 #78

Old people live in the past. Not a judgment, just a fact. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #79

Because many of them have delusions of returning to their families' haciendas once Cuba 'falls' n/t markpkessinger Dec 2014 #80