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n2doc

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74. I hate so say it

Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:02 PM

Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:41 PM - Edit history (1)

But the op sounds like Rubio. I guess their cause isn't getting enough attention for them.

People are outraged over both human and animal atrocities. The difference, I suppose, is that direct action is easier against a single person, not a police force.

We cannot allow any of these killings to be forgotten or forgiven until Justice is served.

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Why Aren’t We As Universally Outraged Over Sandra Bland’s Death As We Are Over Cecil The lion? [View all] WillyT Jul 2015 OP

Why do we care more about Cops killing pets, Downwinder Jul 2015 #1

what the hell? how do you know we aren't? I hate these posts. roguevalley Jul 2015 #89

I think Downwinder may awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #94

Yes! +1,000 - LiberalElite Jul 2015 #97

You rang? whathehell Jul 2015 #143

Because in America white people fear black people and this gives the white people AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #2

But if you are right, and in America, white people fear black people, why did the majority JDPriestly Jul 2015 #51

The news is geared for the awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #95

Very true. I'm white and vocal (not particularly powerful), but I too feel left out from the JDPriestly Jul 2015 #126

There is a predominating cultural bias against African Americans in the US, ronnie624 Jul 2015 #112

You are right. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #127

"Why did the majority of Americans including many, many white people, Stellar Jul 2015 #116

"a large portion of young whites"? whathehell Jul 2015 #134

Does it say anything about us old people in that link I posted. Stellar Jul 2015 #139

Actually, it just says "young people" whathehell Jul 2015 #142

it's tough to have a real conversation lovelydestruction Jul 2015 #118

Well said! maddiemom Jul 2015 #124

So voting for Obama automatically gives one a "pass"? YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #133

Do you think the 60% of white voters who voted for Romney voted for economic reasons, JDPriestly Jul 2015 #149

it could also be... DFL_Wellstone_dems Jul 2015 #111

^^^ This Jake Stern Jul 2015 #137

Good post. ronnie624 Jul 2015 #154

I can only speak for myself tularetom Jul 2015 #3

I agree with you and you said it better than I could. Vinca Jul 2015 #17

I agree too. And it really annoys me when people are taking on an issue and someone chimes in with Happyhippychick Jul 2015 #20

+1 n/t Triana Jul 2015 #21

Exactly. And frankly, both killings exist on the same continuum, as part of the same general... villager Jul 2015 #26

A continuum, yes... hunter Jul 2015 #56

Also good points. Plus, it's harder to confront the police directly villager Jul 2015 #60

I know. cwydro Jul 2015 #30

YES! maddiemom Jul 2015 #125

I sort of agree; in that it's not really a question for DU el_bryanto Jul 2015 #41

I love animals, but I'm certainly more outraged over whathehell Jul 2015 #45

I agree MissDeeds Jul 2015 #47

+1 rock Jul 2015 #49

I agree. Both are outrageous. n/t SalviaBlue Jul 2015 #50

The writer of the Rawstory article awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #96

Weird How That's Misunderstood... WillyT Jul 2015 #99

... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #103

I agree. Chemisse Jul 2015 #104

+1 840high Jul 2015 #140

because all evidence is looking at suicide right now snooper2 Jul 2015 #4

may be a jump to conclusion, but not a 'jump the shark' HFRN Jul 2015 #107

You're technically correct. maddiemom Jul 2015 #128

Because there are many more racists than lion-haters? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #5

Well...yeah. How many people in the world give a lot of thought to their opinion maddiemom Jul 2015 #131

Well said and presented. Not only that, but look at all the demands to Do Something and so it is being done. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #6

I am pretty damned out raged by it. hollysmom Jul 2015 #7

Are you implying the cops murdered all of them? Kurska Jul 2015 #8

the rate of black females commuting suicide psychmommy Jul 2015 #153

Missing the point did you even read my post? Kurska Jul 2015 #156

Ummm---I think we are! maxrandb Jul 2015 #9

Not paying attention? Nt Logical Jul 2015 #10

I'd say we are, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #11

Cecil wasn't killed by police. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #12

Can't we do both? Hun Joro Jul 2015 #13

How are you measuring the relative outrage between the events? Just curious. Demit Jul 2015 #14

I don't agree with the premise of the article DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #15

That's always been the case, but... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #16

I am... This is a false dichotomy and helps with neither case, to pit one issue over the other. hlthe2b Jul 2015 #18

Thank you kwolf68 Jul 2015 #22

^^ this ^^ Myrina Jul 2015 #33

Google results: "Cecil the lion"---- 2.99m results LittleBlue Jul 2015 #19

We're "unified in outrage at the death of... Cecil the lion" ? Seems like a bit of a leap. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #23

while individually many are outraged by both i do think society as a whole JI7 Jul 2015 #24

I am outraged about both. LWolf Jul 2015 #25

A visit to DU's conservative republican counterparts would answer your question. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #27

I disagree with the OP's premise or those who same people are more ladjf Jul 2015 #28

One of our County Board of supervisors said, when asked why we are Cleita Jul 2015 #29

I am tired of this argument kwolf68 Jul 2015 #34

I don't see why we can't do both. Cleita Jul 2015 #37

Tired, too. I spend time volunteering for environmental/wildlife projects over Nay Jul 2015 #62

because the human lives take priority? There's no "both", my dog is part of the family uponit7771 Jul 2015 #113

DU is. I don't know who the "we" in the article refers to. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #31

Exactly still_one Jul 2015 #76

Yes. I know I am outraged by both. nt. MH1 Jul 2015 #79

Some - many - of us are. Myrina Jul 2015 #32

I am sad about the lion being hunted while on a preserve, still outraged about Sandra Bland bermudat Jul 2015 #35

I wish for justice for the lion and Ms Bland GusBob Jul 2015 #36

What's this "we" shit? Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #38

Because it's easier. DirkGently Jul 2015 #39

Some of us are. We can be horrified by the entire culture of violence sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #40

What a ridiculous thing to say. Most of us can be concerned over more than one thing at a time. n/t BeeBee Jul 2015 #42

I've noticed this in my fb news feed. ZombieHorde Jul 2015 #43

Americans, on average, view animals as "innocent" Maedhros Jul 2015 #44

I don't think anything good comes from rating tragic events against each other. n/t Gore1FL Jul 2015 #46

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #48

People Tend to Care More About Animals Than Other People erpowers Jul 2015 #52

And yet Vick's career is not over, so your reasoning is deeply flawed. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #77

You Are Completely Wrong erpowers Jul 2015 #91

wrong. people who care about animals restorefreedom Jul 2015 #115

I agree - we should be packman Jul 2015 #53

Oh, please! Do you have to go .....there?? Peregrine Took Jul 2015 #54

We have been outraged over the Sandra Bland death for over a week or longer. abakan Jul 2015 #55

Good question azurnoir Jul 2015 #57

I'm out outraged for both.... Lobo27 Jul 2015 #58

Evidence this is the case? Helen Borg Jul 2015 #59

Because animals in general are thought of as being more innocent and inferior. n/t vkkv Jul 2015 #61

Sandra Bland, Kindra Chapman, Raynette Turner, Ralkina Jones, Sarah Lee Circle Bear... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #63

Animals are considered "innocent" while black people are guilty of being black. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #64

Evidence (for now) appears to be a suicide taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #65

Most people think Cecil was white. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #66

He *was* blonde wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #69

I Saw What You Did There... WillyT Jul 2015 #100

It's easier to digest. Many people don't want to chew on something harder. wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #67

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #102

We are. okasha Jul 2015 #68

Reading... Is Fundamental... WillyT Jul 2015 #92

We are. roody Jul 2015 #70

I love you WillyT... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #71

IF this premise is true, here's WHY: We are inured to humans killing other humans. Cecil was close WinkyDink Jul 2015 #72

False dichotomy. bluedigger Jul 2015 #73

I hate so say it n2doc Jul 2015 #74

Seriously ??? - YOU !!! - You Know This Is An Article From RawStory, Right ??? - I DIDN'T WRITE IT ! WillyT Jul 2015 #80

Sorry. I didn't get that n2doc Jul 2015 #85

And I Agree With Everything You Just Said... WillyT Jul 2015 #86

WillyT, you spent the Spring on DU preaching your 'civil rights don't really matter' sermons. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #75

Well Bluenorthwest... If Anybody Know About Preaching, It's You... THIS... Speaks For Me... WillyT Jul 2015 #88

But I'm not a fiscal conservative WillyT I'm a democratic socialist who lives like one. So what the Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #141

I hate this kind of OP. pecwae Jul 2015 #78

I have enough compassion to be outraged by both and more. Jamastiene Jul 2015 #81

I'm ouraged and saddened Texasgal Jul 2015 #82

We were. ozone_man Jul 2015 #83

America hates black people. bravenak Jul 2015 #84

There's A Whole Lot Of Raw Nerves Exposed Here... WillyT Jul 2015 #90

Because its possible to be outraged over more than one thing at a time Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #87

We and the media have been talking about Sandra Bland for two weeks davidn3600 Jul 2015 #93

Agree totally WT ! It all makes me utterly sick. Did you see the video of the Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #98

Good post Laura. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #101

she may have been woman, but we didnt hear her roar nt HFRN Jul 2015 #105

+ Eighty Gazillion Scuba Jul 2015 #106

The Knee-Jerk Reaction Is Telling... WillyT Jul 2015 #108

I can be both catrose Jul 2015 #109

Well, for one, the lion didn't commit suicide. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #110

Maybe it's because people don't see any racism in animals and could care less about humans. Stellar Jul 2015 #114

to be fair lovelydestruction Jul 2015 #117

Or 100,000 times more outraged by the invasion/occupation of Iraq Taitertots Jul 2015 #119

And Now... From HuffPo... WillyT Jul 2015 #120

Because there is so much human on human killing in this country leftyladyfrommo Jul 2015 #121

Maybe because The Polack MSgt Jul 2015 #122

Apples and oranges. maddiemom Jul 2015 #123

Say their names matt819 Jul 2015 #129

Sadly, I think there is a very simple answer GitRDun Jul 2015 #130

Because the lion could not have prevented what happened to him Reter Jul 2015 #132

Ahem... gcomeau Jul 2015 #136

No it isn't Reter Jul 2015 #144

Yes it is. gcomeau Jul 2015 #145

It's also not a requirement to dress nice on a job interview Reter Jul 2015 #147

Now you're losing the narrative. gcomeau Jul 2015 #148

The article may be confusing "caring more" with "getting more attention". gcomeau Jul 2015 #135

there is no benifet from this kind of question LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #138

Premeditation One_Life_To_Give Jul 2015 #146

Humans tend to place very little value on ANY life in general. roamer65 Jul 2015 #150

My heart breaks a little for all these types of Death. I understand though that I can't expect... BlueJazz Jul 2015 #151

we are outraged over both samsingh Jul 2015 #152

Good point. I've noticed this before. People care more about animals than other people. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #155