2016 Postmortem

jham123

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141. EXACTLY!!!

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:30 PM

Feb 2016

It can't be put more plainly than that, the Hillary supporters are being very obtuse on this subject. Classic deflection. They are even dragging Sarah Palin into the discussion as if that is going to whitewash Clinton's actions and who she uses for advice on foreign policy.

face it Clintonistas, Hillary was totally blindsided last evening when the Kissinger topic was exposed. She had nothing but a bunch of platitudes and once again, Bernie was spot on.

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If you support Hillary, you support Kissinger. If Democrats nominate Hillary, they [View all] KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 OP

what a specious argument bigtree Feb 2016 #1

GTFO - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #3

And the results are: LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author fleur-de-lisa Feb 2016 #36

Are you a true Bernie supporter ? stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #106

Why? She is PROUD of his endorsement which implies that she thinks he is just peachy fucking keen CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #15

How so? Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #67

The huge difference would be... dchill Feb 2016 #127

Not sure how Bill Press figures into this Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #132

No, but he did write a book... dchill Feb 2016 #137

No, HRC wrote a full blown review in the Washington Post Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #138

That is truly disgusting. dchill Feb 2016 #140

oh that is funny jham123 Feb 2016 #139

Care to refute the point, or just want to love profanity and insults? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #90

+1000 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #108

How so? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #125

the idea that someone's foreign policy ideas restorefreedom Feb 2016 #2

I am aghast. - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #4

It's nauseating. John Poet Feb 2016 #6

They probably have. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #16

Who to bomb next. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #39

you pic is missing something magical thyme Feb 2016 #118

LOL! John Poet Feb 2016 #146

So, does this mean people who support Bernie support Cornel West on everything he has ever boston bean Feb 2016 #5

How many millions of people has Cornel West caused the torture, suffering and murder of? polly7 Feb 2016 #17

Did I say he did? I don't think I did. boston bean Feb 2016 #22

You compared him to Kissinger. polly7 Feb 2016 #23

No I did not. That might be your reading, but follow along. boston bean Feb 2016 #26

Oh, yes you did. I 'followed along'. polly7 Feb 2016 #27

I'm pretty sure the standard you speak of is... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #29

Wow, the Sarah Palin speak sure is popular with a certain candidates supporters around here. JTFrog Feb 2016 #50

I corrected my spelling in case that's what worried you about my post re genocide tk2kewl Feb 2016 #56

Parrotting Sarah Palin has zero to do with your spelling. JTFrog Feb 2016 #66

Wrong tk2kewl Feb 2016 #72

EXACTLY!!! jham123 Feb 2016 #141

Schroedinger's Candidate. Marr Feb 2016 #147

We aren't talking about two people who shared a cab, for fuck's sake. Marr Feb 2016 #136

+1000 jham123 Feb 2016 #142

I thought the same thing when I read "pal around" redstateblues Feb 2016 #58

Makes one wonder about where some of the attackers' loyalty really lies AlbertCat Feb 2016 #80

My loyalties lie with truth and equality. frylock Feb 2016 #126

So in your universe, using the phrase, 'pal around' is indicative of right-wing thinking, but Marr Feb 2016 #131

perfect jham123 Feb 2016 #143

... retrowire Feb 2016 #46

Don't be obtuse. A person's 'mentors' are indicative of their own positions/values. Marr Feb 2016 #129

That's a fake quote oberliner Feb 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Feb 2016 #92

Has he said or done anything to upset your white middle class sensitivities and privileges? Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #40

Yep, I support Cornel West on about 98.74% of things (nt) nyabingi Feb 2016 #64

Those of us old enough to have lived through the Vietnam war Merryland Feb 2016 #7

THANK GOD Bernie Sanders called her out on that shit. He has endeared himself KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #12

Ayup. AzDar Feb 2016 #8

what a silly statement DrDan Feb 2016 #9

Why? Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #73

there are many factors involved in deciding which candidate to support DrDan Feb 2016 #112

For me, certain lines cannot be crossed Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #115

if either Hillary or Bernie is elected, I think we will see a meeting with W . . as there should be DrDan Feb 2016 #116

Not the same thing Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #117

I respectfully disagree. cali Feb 2016 #10

makes you wonder where she was during the 60s nashville_brook Feb 2016 #11

Just for the bombing of Cambodia alone, he should be KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #13

In the 60s she was supporting nuke the whole world Goldwater. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #18

Well, Kissinger's foreign policy backed coups and created failed states... jeff47 Feb 2016 #55

High school mikehiggins Feb 2016 #62

In 69 she actually attacked a black senator in her college grad speech nashville_brook Feb 2016 #111

She led anti-Vietnam war protests at Yale. joshcryer Feb 2016 #74

Yeah, riiiight. Goldwater grrrrl. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #109

Bernie Sanders has praised Fidel Castro. By your logic, supporting Sanders means that Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #14

Like Batista much, do you? - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #19

Batista has been dead for over 40 years and the Castros are still oppressing the Cuban people Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #155

I will take Castro over fucking Kissinger any day. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #20

Kissinger actually had a secret plan to launch airstrikes against Cuba to retaliate against KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #21

Yep! nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #24

Using that logic Bernie supporters must idolize Daniel Ortega CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #25

I may not support Castro but I am smart enough to know the United States did more to harm A Simple Game Feb 2016 #85

I support Hillary vdogg Feb 2016 #28

My, aren't you precious? - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #30

Well, personally I'd recommend reviewing her foreign policy jeff47 Feb 2016 #59

If Hillary embraces Kissinger as a source of foreign policy philosophy Trajan Feb 2016 #65

Ouch! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #81

And it means that she will continue to destroy governments with the acceptance of American DhhD Feb 2016 #84

That's quite a big strawman you built there vdogg Feb 2016 #144

Just the image of her embracing him during an election campaign Trajan Feb 2016 #145

Will everyone who posted here be blocked by the Hillary group katmondoo Feb 2016 #32

Sanders supporters must also LOVE Eugene V. Debs CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #33

What's wrong with one of the most important labor leaders ever? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #91

Pretty telling... AOR Feb 2016 #99

What's funny is they don't even seem to realize how out of step they are. Marr Feb 2016 #124

Pete Seeger did too for a while. Your point? I support everything Seeger supported. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #104

And if you support Bernie leftynyc Feb 2016 #34

Bernie said he trusts Stalin's advice? retrowire Feb 2016 #48

So was the OP leftynyc Feb 2016 #113

the OP at least tried connecting dots that existed. lol nt retrowire Feb 2016 #119

Because Bernie has publicly and proudly touted KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #49

Nope - just his economic ideas leftynyc Feb 2016 #114

We should NOT be judged by those with whom we consult CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #37

You are not required to praise everyone you consult. jeff47 Feb 2016 #60

More importantly, Kissinger praised Hillary Lordquinton Feb 2016 #123

She didn't just consult him Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #75

Oh dear, he read books from people Americans have been instructed to hate Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #105

She may as well get Cheney as foreign advisor. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #38

I supported Obama but I didn't support Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Eric Holder, or Hillary Clinton think Feb 2016 #41

Obama was forced to disavow Rev. Wright, but Hillary is allowed KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #42

Reluntantly, I have to agree erlewyne Feb 2016 #43

Senator Sanders showed us what he is made of, fitting on the eve KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #44

but. but. but he is famous and all that olddots Feb 2016 #45

what a ridiculous, SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #47

Here's a positive post: the ghosts of 2,000,000 southeast Asians silently KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #52

President Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents of all time lobodons Feb 2016 #51

Right up there with Lincoln, Washington and FDR, he is. /sarcasm/ - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #53

close, but no cigar lobodons Feb 2016 #54

Close but no cigar UnBlinkingEye Feb 2016 #83

LOL GummyBearz Feb 2016 #100

And she so PROUD of being praised by hifiguy Feb 2016 #57

for all of Kissinger's faults, Kissinger is not a COMMUNIST like Cornel West and Noam Trotsky ericson00 Feb 2016 #61

Yikes.... think Feb 2016 #63

I'm sure a lot of my childhood pals would agree mikehiggins Feb 2016 #68

Um, Hillary worked at TW&B, a communist party associated law firm. joshcryer Feb 2016 #76

Really, you would choose someone responsible Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #78

WOW SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #96

I'm surprised no one has reported on that post. B Calm Feb 2016 #98

Noam Chomsky says things about our country (assuming you're also an American) ericson00 Feb 2016 #120

Noam Chomsky tells the ugly truths... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #121

well then you're far out of the American mainstream; ericson00 Feb 2016 #122

What? gollygee Feb 2016 #134

complete nonsense beachbum bob Feb 2016 #69

If she loved Kissinger, wonder how she felt about Nixon? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #70

She liked Goldwater! Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #93

Was that back when she was President of Young Republicans in college? I B Calm Feb 2016 #95

Yes, see in 1964, when Bernie was organizing sit-ins for Civil Rights, Hillary supported a Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #97

In her heart, she knew he was right. (Little shout-out to fans of the KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #150

These are the "advisors" she keeps nyabingi Feb 2016 #71

For an apt comparison: OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #77

Affirming the consequent is a common fallacy made by the irrational mind LanternWaste Feb 2016 #79

This is silly, too. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #82

hmmm rtracey Feb 2016 #86

have been a strong advocate for Colin Powell. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #89

He lied? rtracey Feb 2016 #110

Before you go touting your support of Powell, it would behoove you I think KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #154

ZAP! Another fine addition to the ignore list. nt procon Feb 2016 #87

Guity by association. itsrobert Feb 2016 #88

Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. Henry Kissinger B Calm Feb 2016 #94

When asked if why soldiers could die in high numbers for him, Hitler said: Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #103

I agree with you 100%. When did DU become we love Kissinger channel because Hillary likes him? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #101

Upside-down, twilight stuff. DUers are morphing into republicans right before our eyes. RiverLover Feb 2016 #149

I did bad in logic class, too BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #102

Very simple... SoapBox Feb 2016 #107

Don't define me with your paradigm upaloopa Feb 2016 #128

If anyone has a YouTube channel Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #130

Nope. bettyellen Feb 2016 #133

Yawn. Not impressed. What else have you got? stopbush Feb 2016 #135

That logic is beyond sophomoric - almost preschool level I would say. nt hack89 Feb 2016 #148

Wuuuahhhaa!! Beacool Feb 2016 #151

Following this logic...... DFW Feb 2016 #152

Kissinger occupies an entirely different category of sub-human KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #153