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Attorney in Texas

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44. I partly agree but mostly disagree. Here's why:
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

You are correct that Hillary may well clinch the nomination on June 7. That we agree upon.

Yet there are a number of reasons why it is advantageous for the Sanders-led movement, for the Democratic Party, and for Hillary that Sanders continue to campaign and, if necessary, to raise platform contests at the convention.

How does the continuation of the Sanders' campaign help Hillary? Several ways:

The ongoing Sanders campaign gives Hillary an avenue to dominate news cycles with a story other than her email server problem or whatever bullshit twitter post Trump launched the previous day - this prolongs Hillary's opportunity to discuss how her platform will help the middle class and those aspiring to join the middle class;

The ongoing Sanders campaign gives Hillary a foil against which she can cast herself as the Goldilocks "middle choice" between Trump on her right (at least on domestic issues) and Sanders on her left;

The ongoing Sanders campaign gives Hillary a prime time event to make her general election pitch in a forum worth tens of millions of dollars worth of TV ads - it is crazy to pass up on the California debate, which is a golden opportunity in the Golden State to hit a huge audience with her general election message.

How does the continuation of the Sanders' campaign help the Democratic Party? Several ways:

The ongoing Sanders campaign gives the Democratic Party an opportunity to restore the enthusiasm we will need in the Fall if we are going to have a chance at avoiding a Trump administration - the party would hugely benefit from a vigorous debate about party rules (who wouldn't have some of their faith restored by the reform of a process where lobbyists super-delegates are installed to impose their will over grassroots voters?), the party platform (wouldn't it help with Hillary's key weakness by fighting the perception that Hillary is rudderless to adopt a platform that enshrines her shift to the left during the primary?), and the best role for the FDR-Sanders-Warren wing of the party (imagine how much easier it would be to retake the Senate if we empowered he Sanders-led movement to tap its energy on behalf of our Senate candidates in New Hampshire, Colorado, and Wisconsin?);

The ongoing Sanders campaign gives the Democratic Party an opportunity to find common ground - while Sanders continues to get push-back from the party and from Hillary on important progressive issue, of course he will continue to fight for these goals, but you hear more and more Sanders (and Warren) attacks on Trump, and this helps unite the party.

We are Democrats and this is democracy. Democrats should not fear democracy.
I appriciate your notion... Jack Bone May 2016 #1
Clinton's camp is just desperate to create the false notion that all conclusions are foregone. Betty Karlson May 2016 #12
When does the Sanders camp accept reality? Renew Deal May 2016 #25
Clinton has more. tazkcmo May 2016 #26
Here's a test: who has a majority of PDs or PD+SD? lagomorph777 May 2016 #54
Has anyone argued that Clinton already has a majority of PDs? Garrett78 May 2016 #60
The constantly-repeated argument is that because she has a lead, she "has won." lagomorph777 May 2016 #61
Technically Speaking vs. Practically Speaking Garrett78 May 2016 #63
The OP is a Bernie supporter. auntpurl May 2016 #28
I know; see reply # 62 please. Betty Karlson May 2016 #66
If you actually believe I'm a Clinton supporter you need a reality check in a big way. cali May 2016 #43
I'm not a Clinton supporter either, but sound reasoning and DU don't mix. Garrett78 May 2016 #62
I don't believe that for a second. My reply was an addition to reply #1 Betty Karlson May 2016 #65
Cruz said he was going to the convention too Renew Deal May 2016 #24
State Dept. IG reports happen....nt Jack Bone May 2016 #59
I'm sorry that's your point of view, even sorrier if you are correct Voice for Peace May 2016 #2
The times they are a changing', not matter who becomes the nominee. Meantime, silvershadow May 2016 #4
Nice post, and a little different than the usual morose kind of fare around here. I agree. This is highprincipleswork May 2016 #5
It's not a simplistic contest PATRICK May 2016 #13
Simple reality. cali May 2016 #8
No. Simple reality is filled with unknowable possibilities. Voice for Peace May 2016 #10
Let me put it this way: his odds of winning the nomination are vanishingly small cali May 2016 #11
You're correct Cali. tazkcmo May 2016 #30
Precisely. n/t cali May 2016 #32
Good on ya. Garrett78 May 2016 #38
Vanishingly small, but he will be the thorn that the Third Way's throats convulse around VulgarPoet May 2016 #40
small, but growing fast thanks to help from Clinton herself lagomorph777 May 2016 #56
Well, why didn't you say you "had a feeling" earlier? brooklynite May 2016 #29
What do you think about this observation will have Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #3
That's why he won't concede. nt silvershadow May 2016 #6
There is no way Hillary will be indicted. No. Way. cali May 2016 #7
I didn't say that she would Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #9
If indicted PATRICK May 2016 #14
There is no way she will President either. Dawgs May 2016 #17
then we have no rule of law; expect leaks, etc amborin May 2016 #41
Thanks, Debbie Downer, for your efforts in the days preceding the Calif primary. delrem May 2016 #15
chomp, chomp, chomp! boston bean May 2016 #19
Funny isn't it. JoePhilly May 2016 #21
We've run out of buses. grossproffit May 2016 #23
What does that have to do with anything? Dawgs May 2016 #16
Zactly. Over. And over. And over. JudyM May 2016 #67
If it was SUCH a foregone conclusion they wouldn't be continuing the manipulative dog and pony shows Skwmom May 2016 #18
I came into this cycle hoping to have my assumptions about this nation proved false. VulgarPoet May 2016 #20
This is kinda the last chance for me. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #35
Functionally It will be over jzodda May 2016 #22
Man, do the Berniebros eat their own or what? You, a genuine Sanders supporter goes under the bus. LexVegas May 2016 #27
I'm fine with that. One faction or another here, has been throwing me cali May 2016 #36
Just what is it that Clinton is using to blackmail you? randome May 2016 #31
Sanders doesn't get special treatment just cause he isn't a Democrat running in our primary. seabeyond May 2016 #33
I agree entirely. I too predict that there will not be a contested convention. Vattel May 2016 #34
I hope Sanders is a thorn in their throat all the way up to the coronation. VulgarPoet May 2016 #39
I agree AND believe Bernie should fight hard all the way to the Convention if need be Tom Rinaldo May 2016 #37
No, HRC will not have enuf delegates to clinch nomination even after June 7; why amborin May 2016 #42
When she clinches a majority of pledged delegates (2026+), it's mere formalities after that. Garrett78 May 2016 #50
I partly agree but mostly disagree. Here's why: Attorney in Texas May 2016 #44
care to repeat your OR/KY prediction for the classroom? MisterP May 2016 #45
I always downplay my expectations for my candidate though that's not cali May 2016 #46
I'm just hoping all this is some sort of ritual where you make downer predictions to keep MisterP May 2016 #47
Nice catch. Seems Cali may have accidentally used the wrong logo. lagomorph777 May 2016 #49
Why are you giving up, just as HRC is going down in flames? lagomorph777 May 2016 #48
She shouldn't have used a private server. Garrett78 May 2016 #51
And Nixon shouldn't have broken into Watergate. lagomorph777 May 2016 #52
If you think those 2 things are remotely equivalent, you're *way* overselling. Garrett78 May 2016 #55
You're right: Watergate was just a campaign dirty trick; the e-mails damaged our national security. lagomorph777 May 2016 #57
Meh. I just want to make it as difficult as possible for mewling corporate toadies to succeed.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #53
I do not think it will be contested. riversedge May 2016 #58
Reality is the mountain of issues past presidents have failed to deal with. Orsino May 2016 #64
Then say "Hello" to President Trump. That's just reality. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2016 #68
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