2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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80. Exactly, and he started out with the tone that he was a young, socially awkward or

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:32 PM

Jul 2016

shy young man, so he picked those words to illustrate his awkwardness. It's hard to imagine how someone couldn't pick that up in how he prefaced his story.

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Flipped to MSNBC to see Rachel ripping Bill's speech [View all] tallahasseedem Jul 2016 OP

Channel is unwatchable... MSMITH33156 Jul 2016 #1

Oh it is. I am so done with them and Rachel should be ashamed of herself..n/t monmouth4 Jul 2016 #6

I had the exact same response.. solara Jul 2016 #81

They are horrible kevink077 Jul 2016 #73

Huh? It was powerful, folksy, amusing, and effective. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #2

Yes, I'm not getting the critique. kstewart33 Jul 2016 #46

That was bizarre EffieBlack Jul 2016 #54

Many Years ago on the Johnny Carson SHow, standup comedian David Steinberg tblue37 Jul 2016 #69

I sent a tweet to Rachel criticizing her. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #84

You should be watching PBS they are all giving very pro Bill mucifer Jul 2016 #3

CNN seemed to be as well. RonniePudding Jul 2016 #9

Yup... Brooks has actually been fair and complimentary hlthe2b Jul 2016 #58

What was her problem? I saw them for a few seconds but I didn't see that part. pnwmom Jul 2016 #4

She was disgusted... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #13

I had been HOPING he would begin with when he met her. I've heard him talk about that before pnwmom Jul 2016 #14

It was a great way to humanize her. Thoroughly enjoyable speech, imo. nt cyberswede Jul 2016 #27

Exactly, and he started out with the tone that he was a young, socially awkward or R B Garr Jul 2016 #80

omg. that's the reason.. that's just weird. We all were yound once, Rachel..it's History! Cha Jul 2016 #42

Me, too. nt kstewart33 Jul 2016 #47

Can't imagine what any Democrat could find wrong with that speech unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #24

Yeah she said "I kept waiting for him to say enough about me." RonniePudding Jul 2016 #5

They are a Team-Their lives are Intertwined-Neither Would be Where They are Without Each Other Stallion Jul 2016 #15

He wants people to see her through loving eyes, and the best way to do that is to let them see her pnwmom Jul 2016 #21

Exactly... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #41

So did I RonniePudding Jul 2016 #29

Right,Moshe needs to just get off the stage for a long, long time.......take a break. eom a kennedy Jul 2016 #37

Meanwhile my social media blowing up in praise alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #7

Wasn't rude or offensive TeddyR Jul 2016 #8

I thought it was FANTASTIC. But time will tell. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #16

I disagree with Rachel Dem2 Jul 2016 #10

Fail, Rachel Haveadream Jul 2016 #11

Because he called Hillary a "girl"! Really, Rachel! I turned it back to C-SPAN Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #12

In this context, calling her a girl was ok in my book. She is really overreaching to create some Glimmer of Hope Jul 2016 #19

Yep! Context is very important. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #50

Totally agreed. +++ Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #96

Shes saying it was anti-feminist. LexVegas Jul 2016 #17

He gave a speech about how amazing his wife is... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #18

Rachel is an idiot. He also called himself a boy, referring to the same time period. pnwmom Jul 2016 #26

political correctness run amok woolldog Jul 2016 #51

Nonsense. And I DO consider myself a feminist from way back. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #32

She doesn't like hubby condescending to wifey ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #20

Yeah what the hell was up with that? Everyone I've communicated with loved it. nolabear Jul 2016 #22

Rachel is wrong this time. ecstatic Jul 2016 #23

I thought it was an amazing speech... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #39

I disagree with her assessment, she said Bill wrapped the story around him marrying her... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #25

Tone deaf. This was a perfectly acceptable and even laudable speech. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #28

That's kind of why he was there, wasn't it? EffieBlack Jul 2016 #62

Yes, and for 25 to 30 years, people have questioned their marriage. Bill's role Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #75

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #86

Embarrassing BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #30

My passionately feminist wife was quite moved by the speech. Music Man Jul 2016 #31

CSPAN, my friend! liberalmuse Jul 2016 #33

I had been watching on C-SPAN tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #43

Man, this 10,000 times. Adsos Letter Jul 2016 #48

It's almost as if they were told to find something negative to say about Bill VMA131Marine Jul 2016 #34

Wonder if Roger Ailes has moved over to MSNBS. From what I have read is they have been going out of still_one Jul 2016 #35

Frankly, Rachel is 100% off base here scheming daemons Jul 2016 #36

I thought it was a great speech workinclasszero Jul 2016 #38

I'm a feminist and I loved the speech. Nonhlanhla Jul 2016 #40

to HELL with Rachel. I'm done with MSNBC. Cancelling tomorrow. BigBearJohn Jul 2016 #44

Strange and... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #45

I had the same reaction. WTF?! EffieBlack Jul 2016 #49

I heard her start to say that and just flipped the channel. woolldog Jul 2016 #55

Rude and offensive really? treestar Jul 2016 #52

Its crazy! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #59

I have always liked Maddow, but I have NEVER been able to watch her show tblue37 Jul 2016 #53

I liked her before she turned into such a candy ass. BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #78

I liked her directly after Olbermann metroins Jul 2016 #104

Even Mrs Greenspan loved Bill's speech ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #56

Damn! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #66

Hell even Faux News loved it. It was an excellent speech. anneboleyn Jul 2016 #57

WTF? Where does she get that? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #60

She just doesn't like Bill wyldwolf Jul 2016 #61

MSNBC has been unwatchable a while kevink077 Jul 2016 #63

I will not watch MSNBC again. I am done with them. BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #79

You are not missing much kevink077 Jul 2016 #85

CNN is being positive... Satch59 Jul 2016 #64

I honestly thought the beginning was slow and boring. He ended strong. Pisces Jul 2016 #65

I was hoping he'd begin exactly when he did -- when he met her, and they were both young. pnwmom Jul 2016 #70

You are not alone. My friends loved it too. I may have to rewatch it. Pisces Jul 2016 #76

Yeah, it wasn't exactly his best delivery. progressoid Jul 2016 #107

Talking to Chuck Todd... sounds like she's trying to walk it back. Tatiana Jul 2016 #67

Apparently Todd loved it! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #97

I'm a feminist and I have a harder time with the word Female than I do "girl" Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #68

Also, he referred to himself as a "boy" during that same time period. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #71

I agree with you on that completely... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #74

My days of loving and watching the OLD Rachel Maddow at Air America.... LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #72

It is sad... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #77

I think MSNBC is moving right workinclasszero Jul 2016 #99

What the devil did she mean ?! John Poet Jul 2016 #82

Rachel is making much ado about nothing. DawgHouse Jul 2016 #83

Yeah, I think she should look at the speech again... Bill pursuing Hillary was the sub plot around.. uponit7771 Jul 2016 #92

Start teaching your kids to install their own liners, just in case! DawgHouse Jul 2016 #94

thank you!! uponit7771 Jul 2016 #110

I think Rachel is being misrepresented here. She was referring to Bill Clinton's previous Trust Buster Jul 2016 #87

I think Rachel was wrong and talking about 1971 wasn't awkward. She just wanted to disparage him. pnwmom Jul 2016 #91

I disagree. The man has a history of infidelity. Talking about pursuing "that girl" made me wince Trust Buster Jul 2016 #100

He started at exactly the right point, in my opinion. He let his listeners view her through pnwmom Jul 2016 #105

What else do you expect from *Microsoft* NBC? scscholar Jul 2016 #88

Joy Reid just shut her up. Tatiana Jul 2016 #89

What did Joy say? pnwmom Jul 2016 #93

Joy basically said Bill wasn't speaking to Rachel. Tatiana Jul 2016 #101

Joy is much smarter than Rachel in my opinion. And always emotionally measured. A critical thinker. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #112

Yes. Joy is by far the smartest person on television. DURHAM D Jul 2016 #117

RACHEL NOT LIKING PRESIDENT CLINTON'S SPEECH ? What has gotten into her. It WAS not rude or offensiv trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #90

posted to her page trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #95

She's getting it on Twitter as well. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #102

I don't see that on her Twitter page. Maybe I'm on the wrong page. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #113

She's getting it on Twitter as well. LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #114

I think she got marching orders tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #120

She must have watched a COMPLETELY different speech LibraLiz1973 Jul 2016 #98

Bizarre that she was offended by the beginning of that speech! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #118

Agree with her or not, she said that about the beginning of his speech. She said napi21 Jul 2016 #103

I didn't get that either Zambero Jul 2016 #106

I watched everything on the span, and had no trouble. Maybe they're tired LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #108

Sorry I've never liked her... MelSC Jul 2016 #109

I just watched the clip and couldn't quite believe her! LAS14 Jul 2016 #111

My friend who is a delegate turned her back to him. David__77 Jul 2016 #115

From Bill's speech tonight, I certainly learned a lot about Hillary! lucca18 Jul 2016 #116

Rachel Maddow didn't understand the target audience for Bill Clinton's speech. UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #119

Exactly! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #121