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2016 Postmortem

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Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 03:15 PM Oct 2016

I'm a criminal defense attorney, let me tell you why Comey did this. (You'll feel better) [View all]

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2016, 12:07 PM - Edit history (13)

***Update***

La Times has the best characterization of why Comey did what he did, and it is consistent with my original post below. There's nothing there, he's simply covering his butt.

The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.

Because Comey had told Congress that the FBI had finished investigating Clinton’s server, he felt he needed to let lawmakers know that agents were looking into the case again in light of the recent discovery, the official said.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html

The way the press initially handled this story is unforgivable.

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Original Post:

Comey knows that Hillary is going to win the election. He knows that Rs in the House will very likely rake him over the coals in endless Benghazi like hearings. Comey testified under oath to Congress that he would reopen--or at a minimum reconsider--the investigation should he get additional information. He also testified that if there is a referral from Congress regarding Clinton's untruthful disclosure to FBI that he could open an investigation vis her FBI interview.

Somebody in the know dropped some emails in the FBIs lap recently. (Was it merely a routine disclosure from the Weiner investigation? Maybe, but I'm not buying it. The timing of all this makes me believe that this was not just an innocent 11th hour discovery.)

This puts Comey in a box. He testified under oath that he would relook at things if more information comes to light--so basically he's in legal trouble (perjury allegation) if he doesn't. This is confirmed by Comey's own memo to FBI employees.

Comey said he felt “an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-director-james-b-comey-under-fire-for-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-inquiry/2016/10/28/fbad009c-9d57-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_comey-810pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Further, if he didn't send the letter he sent today, he would be accused of political collusion with the Clintons. He's covering his ass. Plain and simple. He has bristled at the allegation that he is acting in a partisan way, and this (nothing-burger) letter is his attempt to get back to some type of perceived neutrality in advance of his anticipated testimony to Congress. Imagine if he didn't send the letter. You can just see Gowdy screaming at him, "So you had these additional emails and you kept them a secret until AFTER the election!"

My legal advice to people here is to take a deep breath. This letter is classic CYA. It's designed to protect Comey, and that's it. If he had the goods on Clinton the shoe would have dropped today. Mark Cuban's explanation that Huma was simply printing emails for HRC bears this out. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512552937

PS, watch for any and all oppo that the Clintons have to be released today and tomorrow in advance of the Sunday shows. Anything they have on Trump will come out now. The best defense is a good offense. Let's all strap in and kick this orange bastard's corpulent ass.

Couple people have asked about what the oppo probably is. Here's my best speculative shot..

Absolutely no way someone as careless as Donald Trump has not been surreptitiously audio recorded. In the modern era, everybody has a smart phone. Odds are its an attractive contract vendor who was not required to sign a non-disclosure contract. You can guess what would be in the recording.

Is that legal, you ask? New York's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. New York makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on an in-person or telephone conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. N.Y. Penal Law §§ 250.00, 250.05. So, while I'm not licensed in New York, if the party recording was in the room, the answer is pretty much it looks to be legal.

The person with the recording has probably already consulted with an attorney, found out that it wasn't illegal to make the tape, and they are ready to drop it. Now's the time my friend. The address to the Washington Post is --- The Washington Post, 1301 K Street NW, Washington DC 20071

PPS: Still don't feel better? Take a look at the prediction markets hours after the story dropped. http://predictwise.com/

We're gonna be fine people. We are on the right side of history.

Quick CYA footnote: A person could read this and think that I'm apologizing for Comey. I'm not. What he has done is despicable and unforgivable. At the time I originally posted this all I knew was the letter Comey wrote and that's that. People were freaking out about the (now debunked) reporting that Comey had "reopened" the investigation. I originally wrote my post because I knew that Comey felt he had legal exposure due to his prior congressional testimony and this was not the opening act of a criminal charge contra Clinton. I thought this might make people feel better.

My speculation regarding oppo was noted as speculation. I'm a hard core partisan Democrat. I can have hopes too, no?
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Thanks. I DO feel better. That makes a whole lot of sense! nt ncgrits Oct 2016 #1
Thank you for that! Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #2
thank you! tenaciousdem Oct 2016 #4
I can't wait to see what they have to unload! Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #5
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #7
And the NYT says they were discovered during the Weiner investigation reasonabletexan Oct 2016 #8
Welcome to DU!! Here is a strange question that I bet you never expected anyone to ask you StevieM Oct 2016 #36
Is this like a challenge question to determine if I am a bot? :) I cant stand Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #51
Psst: this was not a response to you. nt Raine1967 Oct 2016 #53
I'm an idiot. Got all happy because I thought I was being welcomed Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #85
Fahrenthold451, I SWEAR I was going to put up a post below welcoming you as well. StevieM Oct 2016 #67
Totally funny. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #80
Not that I'm the one you asked, but say it I must: SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #55
I like the DH because it keeps a major difference between the two leagues. StevieM Oct 2016 #68
It is a difference, true. Which causes me to ignore the AL.... nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #79
Yeah that is my take also but I think Comey should make a clarifying statement. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #9
He probably won't clarify--He will want to keep his options open. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #14
Chaffetz didn't immediately politicize it, he pre-release politicized it. They got the letters okaawhatever Oct 2016 #70
I understand why he did it…and I DON'T feel better. regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #10
The news cycle dictates that this will be a story for at best 48 hours. There's no there there. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #15
This will be the main topic on the Sunday crap shows. old guy Oct 2016 #54
That's basically what Steney Hoyer said lillypaddle Oct 2016 #11
Could be a Repub FBI investigator dropped in his lap, so Comey had to send letter wishstar Oct 2016 #12
Thank you! This explanation makes things a lot more clear. Sorceress Oct 2016 #13
K&R!!! Mme. Defarge Oct 2016 #16
Thank you for your cogent explanation. Lifelong Protester Oct 2016 #18
Sounds right. Thanks. And welcome to DU. Lochloosa Oct 2016 #19
Newsweek agrees with you DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #20
He could have classified it mercuryblues Oct 2016 #21
He totally could have, but he operates in a political theater as well. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #22
Personally, I think his behavior is reckless and unforgivable. yardwork Oct 2016 #25
Agree but he obviously doesn't SharonClark Oct 2016 #86
You are aware that the FBI is supposed to be apolitical, right? Raine1967 Oct 2016 #74
I agree with you 100% about Comey. I also think the Clinton campaign knew it was coming. Avalux Oct 2016 #23
Absolutely they knew, and they have been keeping their powder dry. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #24
Hacking emails is also against the law, but it is the entire basis of Trump's campaign along with world wide wally Oct 2016 #26
Thanks! nt jonno99 Oct 2016 #28
Very good points...but this a Political campaign... Cattledog Oct 2016 #29
Which is why the oppo must drop now Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #32
A cogent analysis. Thank you. Whenever I see the word, "corpulent" I am reminded of Shirer's WheelWalker Oct 2016 #30
I am reminded of Trump of the tee box of his golf course with his stupid white pants hiked into his Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #84
1946? czarjak Oct 2016 #94
If Comey is trying to save his ass, why is the negative blowback is only affecting Hillary? procon Oct 2016 #31
Because now all the Rs like Comey more and they won't hit him as hard Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #33
But only until the next thing they don't like. n/t moonscape Oct 2016 #103
Thanks. You're explanation makes a lot of sense. :) Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2016 #34
Sounds good to me ArnoldLayne Oct 2016 #35
I don't feel better... workinclasszero Oct 2016 #37
Obviously the worry would be that the emails the FBI now have are damaging to HRC Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #39
More good points. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #111
Gracias. I was just trying to make a joke Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #119
I don't feel that much better, either. calimary Oct 2016 #91
Right the republicans don't give a damn about facts workinclasszero Oct 2016 #92
Let's rename him... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #105
KnR Hekate Oct 2016 #38
How are you so sure there is damning oppo? musicblind Oct 2016 #40
Here's the deal -- I've represented a lot of people and I would say the majority Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #43
Her team are seasoned pros.I'm not, but even I would know to keep something good in reserve for just tblue37 Oct 2016 #60
I would agree with your assessment. DCBob Oct 2016 #41
Agreed. But a fake scandal is much easier to deal with than real Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #44
Bullshitt Cosmocat Oct 2016 #42
I'm not defending him for doing it. Just thinking about the why Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #45
Totally agree! workinclasszero Oct 2016 #47
Thanks. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2016 #46
Going to share this on my Facebook page. EOM tiredtoo Oct 2016 #49
Thanks! Dave in VA Oct 2016 #50
Comey is making a last-ditch attempt to save his ass and his job Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #52
His scolding of Clinton back in July (I found no crime, BUT...) MADem Oct 2016 #56
I'm with you Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #59
i felt better after i heard it was anthony weiner, who okieinpain Oct 2016 #58
I mean seriously, Huma, you're gorgeous. What were you doing with Weiner anyway? Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #61
yep. if you think about it she had to know okieinpain Oct 2016 #64
Comey's "I don't know what I know, and I don't know when I'll know it" disclaimer was feeble Miles Archer Oct 2016 #62
It's safe to say that Comey's actions are extremely unusual and clearly partisan. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #63
Hunh. What's your take on the Hatch act? Somebody in another thread on this topic mentioned it. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #113
Too late for it to matter. 14 million people have already voted ffr Oct 2016 #65
Thank you, Fahrenthhold451 Cha Oct 2016 #66
Right back at Cha Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #72
lesson that obama failed to learn, stop appointing rethugs. hopefully, luvmybluestate Oct 2016 #69
Seriously. I mean seriously. Just stop. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #122
Bye. Hortensis Oct 2016 #123
Thanks! That helps me feel a little better jimlup Oct 2016 #73
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #75
The media is in a frenzy, they smell blood BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #76
They don't smell blood, they want blood. C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #78
It really was amazing to see the press fall all over themselves Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #83
This post needs to be DU front page (n/t) Puzzler Oct 2016 #77
I just had a thought ... if 'findings' were dumped on Comey by a Rethug operative in the FBI brett_jv Oct 2016 #81
Agreed except Comey's vagueness is close to prosecutorial misconduct a few days before an election. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #82
thank you! k&r DesertRat Oct 2016 #87
Yours are all plausible assertions Gman Oct 2016 #88
Washington Post reports Comey as all but announcing he was just covering own ass. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #89
He must know there's nobody that would pull him out Gman Oct 2016 #90
Thanks for the reassurance! AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #93
please clarify NJCher Oct 2016 #95
I posted this right as the story dropped and it was unclear where the emails were coming from-- Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #98
Who are you???!!! Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #96
I'm new. Im a hard hard core political junkie. My habit would be expensive if politics were drugs. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #99
I heard that. Welcome and thanks for the expertise (and great screen name!) nolabear Oct 2016 #128
I don't buy that for a second. Lord Magus Oct 2016 #97
I think that if Comey wanted to collude with the Rs he just Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #100
If he did that he would've not only had his recommendation rejected... Lord Magus Oct 2016 #102
but can Comey be liable under the Hatch act? is my question. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #114
You're right. But Damn, I hate Chaffetz Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #118
That's 100% understandable ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #139
Somebody just filed an ethics complaint against Chaffetz, so be consoled :-) ColemanMaskell Nov 2016 #140
Charging the receiver of classified information and not the sender would be unjust BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #117
HRC got nothing to do with this. She didn't send. She didn't receive Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #120
Thanks for the well thought out and clearly worded post. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #101
Thank you so much! Du'ers are the best. I love how you took it step by step. I feel better too. n/t Upthevibe Oct 2016 #107
Thats why donco Oct 2016 #106
Now calls for his resignation are growing louder. Kablooie Oct 2016 #108
He knew that if he didn't send the letter then he could Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #116
Lots of low percentage guesswork Awsi Dooger Oct 2016 #109
I agree my post is guesswork Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #115
Thank you AGAIN! ncgrits Oct 2016 #124
Appreciate your reply. Thank you. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #130
K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Oct 2016 #110
Welcome to DU and many thanks for this info! Lucinda Oct 2016 #112
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #121
It all proceeded from... JackHughes Oct 2016 #125
Thank you for this, it is starting to make sense onecent Oct 2016 #126
Really weird, nightmarish and unfair way. But making sense. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #127
In any case, Comey was being reckless RolfHarris39 Oct 2016 #129
I believe that Comey felt he was in legal danger Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #131
Welcome to DU, Rolf Harris. Interesting choice of user name. DesertRat Oct 2016 #134
Rolf Harris is a sex abuser tenderfoot Oct 2016 #135
Yes, I know. DesertRat Oct 2016 #136
My guess is Weiner cut a deal. djg21 Oct 2016 #132
I'm not sure about Weiner cutting a deal Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #133
You're assuming Comey is being entirely truthful. djg21 Oct 2016 #137
He brought this on himself... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #138
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