Why be in denial of our candidates flaws?

[seabeyond]

68. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! ... ah ha.

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Ya. K. A list. You ready? ... You have to promise to read it all.

Lets see.

I stepped into the politics of DU in April. Here is the thing. wWe had so many absurd conversations making Obama out to be.... (wait for it)....

evil.

Sounding familiar to you? So, though I love politics, the strategy of politics, how we create by what we do, watching how Obama moved.... I was unable to talk about fuckin' politics.

Sad, right? Because there was such extreme hate, what a fuckin waste of time, of my time, to look at the fun stuff, which I use to have this being a Democratic board. Kinda like talking to a rw'er (are we still allowed to scorn the rw'er? Or is that out?) ... arguing with a fuckin teabagger. I live in ALL red. I am the only progressive, liberal, Democrat I know. I could no longer talk politics from the position of a Democrat, on DU any more, without the constant onslaught of "Obama is evil, satan", and a number of other things. Republican, lazy, do nothing. I do not like that conversation, so I stopped participating in politics.

Mid April, I started hearing the same thing toward Clinton. It caught my attention. I was seeing the same adjectives toward Clinton, and I hadn't been seeing that for the last couple years. All of a sudden, Clinton is .... evil, republican, cold, uncaring, hawk, 1%.

Now, I was not a supporter of Clinton. I adamantly did not want her to win. I was excited listening to Sanders and considering others.

I love our Dems, and I love how smart our Dems are, I love listening to them and watching them strategically create their campaigns. The more I understand, the more I get what people are doing and saying. So, my "list" has developed over a lot of months, listening to a lot of people, and drawing my own conclusions.

1. Social issues. From day one I said it was my top priority. From day one I was being told Sanders was the best. As I listened to Sanders previously, since in his 30's, thru out his career, I disagree. Social issues is a weakness for Sanders. Sanders and supporters do not see it. I think he thinks he is good. But, I do not think that he is good. I have many many reasons why I think social issues are a weakness for him.

I have been consistent on that since he was only putting out feelers to run. I immediately recognized that he totally failed, with social politics. I consistently stated that was my number one issue. Being my number one issue, I aggressively and often pointed out the error of his ways.

Now, I was far from the only one. We were well before BLM stepped up. Documented.

We started seeing media pick up on it when he threw his hat in. It really was not a very hard one to see.

From May until today, I can show you how he continually is telling me he does not "get it".

2. Economic scam. Over the months of him gathering crowds, and speaking, ... speaking, that is what he loves. He loves to speak. I have learned, he does not do the work. Just talking about it is his reward.

Personal experience as an example: I have rw in my family. I have learned, they sit back and gripe about every damn thing. EVERY damn thing. No one gets a break. Nothing and no one is good enough. They sit back and criticize, and they have no solution, no interest in a solution, cause that is not their goal.

This is what I am learning about Sanders. His first run in congress was merely for the jollies of seeing if he could get a Repug win, by pitting himself against a Democrat. If he could effect results of the election. It was to bust up the Democratic party. A populist. That is what turned me onto the populist group here on DU. I started better understanding the intent and goal. They do not do the work, and it isn't about solutions. Only to complain.

It is yelling about what they want, without doing any of the work. And now. They want it NOW!

Or everyone is going to suffer the repercussions of them not getting everything they want right now. (sounds like the baggers).

Sanders declares all these wonderful things, without rationality, reason or logic. And then he and his people demand I lock step and agree, and you know..... I can't do it. I have to make my decisions off of facts. That is just the kind of person I am.

SO, to me, that is pretty big. Everything Sanders is preaching about is undoable. That is the biggest waste of my time. I am getting old. I do not have that kind of time to waste. I won't do something so stupid, at work. I won't look at the issue, and consider only the solutions that are actually UNdoable. My ass would be fired if I only tried UNdoable stuff. Same in my personal life. As a mom, I do not go over and over and over, the shit that doesn't work. I do not have the time. I do not want to listen to the whining and complaining. I a about solving the problem. I feel that is one of Sanders scariest fails.

3. Did i say social issues? Well, I am still all over that.

4. I have some real issues with what I see as games, that he is playing. I do not like them. I have only seen this the last couple months. I think his ego is really getting a good stroke, and he is liking it. I think he is losing his authenticity. That was what I liked about the man in the first place. Now I am questioning the perception of authenticity from the start.

The more and more I look at his ability to work with people, the way I have seen him manipulate party affiliation with his vote, as he claims he is pure, has me bothered.

Some of the things he has stuck footing on, I do not think is true. I do not like things like saying, he was for marriage equality, always. That is blatantly not true. He knows it. I know it. So, when he looks me in the eyes and says, ..... I was for marriage equality. I say, bullshit.

He doesn't do war because of one vote he was comfortable and unthreatened in making. He would bomb and kill like al the rest if he felt it necessary, but how he and his supports play it bothers me.

Now, he is a politician, I get that. I at least know he is a politician. I am continually told by him and his supporters he is not. He has been a politician for over 30 years. I gotta stick with facts.

5. He is not interested in foreign policy any more than he is interested in social issues. That matters to me.

6. I do not think most of the people he will work with likes or respects him.

7. I do not trust him with the Supreme Court. I think he might go toward his middle class "white class" issues in placing a person instead of MY social issues. An over site after all, because it simply is not the important issue of the day. The social issues have already progressed so far. The social issues are not resolved, true; but, they have progressed. Women can vote and Blacks have MLK and gays can marry. Lets move on. (his words)

8. He has been willing to be disruptive, twenty five years in congress. Call everyone out. No one does anything, both the same, and Sanders has accomplished little to nothing. I do not respect that.

9. I do not believe he will get the vote as a socialist. That one is only a personal belief that i do not argue, because I can be as wrong as right.

10. I think if he were to win, he would be totally ineffective and his negative, angry mood would feed the anger and hate that much more.

11. I think with a lot of people, the more they get to know him, the more they will not like him. I think that is why his numbers have stopped moving and why he is backsliding.

12. He doesn't listen. He wants others to listen to him, only.

13. It is not a revolution. If it were a revolution we would be starting local and working our way up and thru out. Like the teabaggers. We are not doing that. One man complaining, and a percentage of the nation agreeing, none willing to do the work. Start local, go to State, work toward national. Instead we just simply have one man at the top. For me, that is simply foolishness, that I laugh and shake my head, that I cannot take seriously.

14. He reacts first. I like Obama's steady and I think Clinton or O'malley would bring the same.

15. ...

Meh, I have probably missed some big ones. I may have to add.