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Why did Hillary Clinton lose more than 50% of the white woman's vote to Trump? It seems that the fact that she was the first woman with a real chance to be POTUS counted for nothing. And she lost to the biggest sexist pig to ever run for office.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)passion for completely irrational and fake reasons.
brush
(53,840 posts)I mean how the hell do you not want someone like you to finally make it as president?
If just had to be a white man to get the black guy out.
calimary
(81,440 posts)And I don't mean just about myself, either. There are those who feel threatened and diminished by somebody who's done more or gone farther than they have. Some of it, I suspect, is resentment. Maybe a lot of it. She's so amazingly accomplished - WAY more than anybody you or I know in our own lives. And I'd guess her achievements give some women a complex. I suspect they resent that she's somehow "shown them up" and made them feel small and inadequate by comparison.
There's a downside to succeeding, especially if it's high-profile success. The higher you climb, the easier a target you become. Sometimes all it means is you'll have more people shooting at you.
brush
(53,840 posts)Seems that would spur them to vote for her and open the door for others.
calimary
(81,440 posts)In my career, the biggest knife wounds in my back came from other women. Competing with me, resenting that I had X, Y, or Z job that they thought they should have gotten, or to which they felt they were more entitled. Kinda bewildered me - because I thought "hey, we're all starting to make inroads in this-here previously-all-boys club and shouldn't we all stick together and support each other? FUUUUUUUCK... I'm grateful I had the pleasure of working with some women who were just completely wonderful and supportive and funny and congenial. And there were men who were pretty lousy, too. You find all kinds, both the goods AND the bads. But the worst bullshit or duplicity or hostility I ever had to deal with came from another woman.
brush
(53,840 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'll only add that a lot of women, sadly, rely on their partners to tell them how to vote. As embarrassing as it is, there was a time when I would ask my husband and trust he knew what he was talking about. It's funny, though, over time we reversed our political roles. He now asks me who and what to vote for.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)This is especially true of women who are a little younger, same age and in particular, older than she is.
I saw this every day. The women of the above described age group for the most part did not have professional careers because they didn't think they could. Hillary puts the lie to that and it pisses them off.
CincyDem
(6,385 posts)Trump is being called the first white president for a reason and white women are as familiar with the dog whistles as well as white men.
Hav
(5,969 posts)If I remember correctly, more than half of the white women preferred to vote for the pedophile in Alabama just because of the R behind the name and possibly, because of religious issues.
Regarding HRC, I'd say sexism also exists from women towards other women. When some of them said that a woman cannot be President because of her emotions, then that is sexism, too.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)a group are just not reliable political partners and I don't know why.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)Can a woman be a misogynist? The answered were always "yes". Think of the picture of that idiotic woman wearing a t-shirt that she wore so proudly, "Trump can grab my..." with an arrow pointing toward her crotch. Women DO hate other women because they have been programmed to by their subculture, environment and political/religious affiliations.
I have come to the realization that I am a misogynist too. I hate women who hate women. I hate women who wear idiot t---shirts proudly and then go and vote for a pedophile, a sexual abuser, or a sexual harasser.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I say those women probably should lose the right to vote because they are complete and total idiots.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)I would've assumed she had a hand in developing an idiotic idea like that.
dlk
(11,575 posts)The reverse is true for successful men. Sexism, unfortunately, rules.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)for a woman anymore than I would expect men always to vote for a man.
Makes no sense.
JI7
(89,262 posts)And vote for what would be best for their men in their life.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)This has been my experience, in discussing the topic with white female coworkers who voted for Trump.
That's not what they say, exactly, but it's the conclusion I have drawn. They resent that she has a powerful husband and used that, as well as her own intellect as a springboard for her own career in politics. They resent that while some of them lost their husbands to infidelity, she kept hers and her first marriage is still going strong. They resent her tenacity and ambition to be a candidate for the President of the United States.
She has the power, intellect, and prestige that these women want for themselves, but can never see themselves ever achieving.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)eom
JimGinPA
(14,811 posts)The cottage industry that formed over the 'Clinton hate' that started in the late 80's. Hell, the RW media and talk radio began, or at least blossomed, because of it. For nearly 40 years there has been a constant drumbeat of negative media aimed at her from the other side. She doesn't bake cookies, that Whitewater "scandal", sticking her nose into healthcare when she was only a first lady, being a lesbian in a marriage arrangement, the murders she ordered, selling baby parts out of the basement of a pizza place, and on and on and on. By the end of the 2016 campaign whatever outrageous thing tRump said or did, all of the mainstream media felt it was their duty to point out how she was considered so "untrustworthy" too. (False equivalency anyone?).
AND THOSE EMAILS!!!