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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:42 PM Dec 2017

I Will Bet GOP Operatives & Trump Secretly Pushing Indicting The Clintons & Maybe Obama.

I am suspicious of what is going on behind the scenes and in secret. The secret meeting by certain Congress critters s just as suspicious as well. My take and sense of it all is that Trump and the GOP is furious that they believe Hillary got such special treatment. They are pushing the idea that she is guilty of a Benghazi cover up, email cover up, Uranium treason etc etc etc. And they are willing to make ANYTHING up and do ANYTHING to get their way. In the end they even want to taint Obama.

Now what I am saying is probably over the top. Yet with these crooks anything is possible. We are so off the rails right now during this recess. They are hunting for anyone in the FBI who will become their accomplices. We must take these attacks on the integrity of the FBI very seriously. The fact that we are getting tweeted over the holiday is unacceptable. IT IS A GOD DAMNED HOLIDAY FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!!

And the GOP is just as guilty as Trump. We see how they plan to govern or not govern going forward. And there are red flags waving all over the place.

WHAT OTHER DAMNED SECRET MEETING IS THE GOP PARTICIPATING IN RIGHT NOW???

Sorry for my rant but I do not like what I am seeing and sensing.

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I Will Bet GOP Operatives & Trump Secretly Pushing Indicting The Clintons & Maybe Obama. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Dec 2017 OP
I bet every single one them took money from Russia. Demtexan Dec 2017 #1
Yes, I think a lot of the GOP are guilty and they may attack prominent Dems Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #2
It is called throwing a dead cat on the table. Demtexan Dec 2017 #5
Yep, going to be a pile of dead cats on the table if the GOP has there way. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #6
It is a old saying. Demtexan Dec 2017 #8
Yes, throwing a dead cat on the table would almost certainly stop all other conversation. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #10
It would. Demtexan Dec 2017 #11
Yes, also maybe Texan. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #12
My Father side of family came from the deep south. Demtexan Dec 2017 #13
I looked up the origins of the saying, it perhaps originated in the British Isles? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #14
Could be. Demtexan Dec 2017 #15
Immigrant perhaps from Europe, maybe Scots Irish. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #16
Most likely. Demtexan Dec 2017 #19
Wow, Battle of Cowpens was 1781, so some of your ancestors were here Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #20
A cousin did the family tree. Demtexan Dec 2017 #21
Wow, that is so neat. You are a part of American history. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #23
Yes. Demtexan Dec 2017 #25
That is quite an American pedigree. You should be proud. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #26
I know some about my mother's side back to Europe. Demtexan Dec 2017 #22
Maybe that is where the unusual accent you recall originated. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #24
It may have been a mix of accents. Demtexan Dec 2017 #27
Yes that is why there are regional dialects.... Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #29
She the youngest of 20 kids. Demtexan Dec 2017 #30
My grandfather was one of 20 kids too. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #31
My Father could speak both ways. Demtexan Dec 2017 #32
Irish language Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #34
There is german in the family tree. Demtexan Dec 2017 #35
The accent you describe sounds germanic to me. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #36
I had think back to the family tree. Demtexan Dec 2017 #37
I Am Sure That They All Were Deeply Involved With Russians. Including McConnell & Ryan. TheMastersNemesis Dec 2017 #3
They knew it was Russian money and they did not care. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #4
They did not think that Trump would be caught dealing with the Russians. Demtexan Dec 2017 #7
If they can concoct some nutty charge angainst any of Trump's political rivals procon Dec 2017 #9
Maybe not so secret. We've been having an ice storm today and only a few channels Vinca Dec 2017 #17
You are not alone in that feeling. newblewtoo Dec 2017 #18
Cornered animals will stop at nothing to survive. defacto7 Dec 2017 #28
And don't believe any "documents" that come out Takket Dec 2017 #33

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
2. Yes, I think a lot of the GOP are guilty and they may attack prominent Dems
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:48 PM
Dec 2017

to distract and confuse.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
6. Yep, going to be a pile of dead cats on the table if the GOP has there way.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:54 PM
Dec 2017

Great saying, had not heard it before.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
10. Yes, throwing a dead cat on the table would almost certainly stop all other conversation.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:30 PM
Dec 2017

The GOP is pretty good at this.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
13. My Father side of family came from the deep south.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:42 PM
Dec 2017

After about 1800 they started to move to Texas.

No telling how old or where that saying came from.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
15. Could be.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:57 PM
Dec 2017

My Father's mother was born in the 1890s and spoke like a hillbilly.
Old words and a weird accent.

Not a texas accent or southern accent.

Something a lot older.




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Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
16. Immigrant perhaps from Europe, maybe Scots Irish.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:20 PM
Dec 2017

Lots of Scots Irish migrated to the US in the 18th and 19th century,

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
19. Most likely.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:17 PM
Dec 2017

Some of them fought in the Battle of the Cowpens against the British.

I wish I would recorded her speaking.

It may have been how people spoke after they moved here before the southern accent.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
20. Wow, Battle of Cowpens was 1781, so some of your ancestors were here
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:20 PM
Dec 2017

in the Revolutionary era.

I know, I wish I had asked my grandparents a lot more about the family
history. Didn't occur to me back then.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
21. A cousin did the family tree.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:27 PM
Dec 2017

We paper proof.

They were the guys hiding behind the trees and rocks.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
23. Wow, that is so neat. You are a part of American history.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:51 PM
Dec 2017

The Battle of Cowpens was a turning point for the South in the Revolutionary War,
the colonists wiped out the British fighting in that battle. That victory led to a chain of events culminating in the decisive American victory at Yorktown, which ended the Revolutionary War. Americans, the underdogs, had successfully broken
away from Britain.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
25. Yes.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:58 PM
Dec 2017

I am very proud of that.

Then these people moved to Texas.

They got Spanish, Mexican, and Texas land grants.

Some of them fought in the Texas Army.

I guess I get attitude from them.

The last ones moved to Texas after the Civil War.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
26. That is quite an American pedigree. You should be proud.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:00 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe you also had a Texas ranger in the mix somewhere.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
27. It may have been a mix of accents.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:02 PM
Dec 2017

It was not Irish or Scottish or English accents.

I think people moved here and the accents started to mix.


Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
30. She the youngest of 20 kids.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:33 PM
Dec 2017

She was born at time the older people would be still be alive.

She picked up the accent.

She would say zinc instead of sink.

Like that.

My father said it that way to.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
31. My grandfather was one of 20 kids too.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:38 PM
Dec 2017

There were big families back in the days before birth control.
Interesting about the pronunciation.
Wonder what language this might have been.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
32. My Father could speak both ways.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:50 PM
Dec 2017

They would start talking and it was hard to follow.

It was English but older mixed up English.

I am thinking the Irish family members may not have spoken english when the came here.

Then there was a native american mix in there.

My grandmother and grandfather on mother also came from big families.

Thirteen kids and 18 kids.









Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
34. Irish language
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

By the mid 1800's, the Irish were mostly speaking English in Ireland.
So perhaps some of your ancestors came over prior to that time
when the Irish were still speaking Gaelic.

My grandparents were Irish, with a brogue, and they did not
pronounce Zink for sink. I am thinking perhaps more Germanic
or regional for your kin.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
37. I had think back to the family tree.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

My cousin worked really hard on it.

Not a lot of German but enough.

A lot of Germans moved to Texas.








 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
3. I Am Sure That They All Were Deeply Involved With Russians. Including McConnell & Ryan.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:50 PM
Dec 2017

It is a sure bet that Russian money flowed to the GOP coffers.

Irish_Dem

(47,179 posts)
4. They knew it was Russian money and they did not care.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:52 PM
Dec 2017

Once they found out Russia was handing out large sums of money to politicians, they all lined up with their hands out.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
7. They did not think that Trump would be caught dealing with the Russians.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:56 PM
Dec 2017

So why not take it.

Now Putin owns them.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. If they can concoct some nutty charge angainst any of Trump's political rivals
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:00 PM
Dec 2017

before Trump himself is officially indicted, then Republicans can claim that any legal action against Trump is just an act of bitter retaliation by hyper partisan leftist raconteurs. If Trump's crimes are made public, the entire GOP propaganda machine will kick into overdrives and dismiss any stench of wrongdoing as nothing more than politically motivated sour grapes, just another tit for tat Dem attack on their Immaculate Dear Leader.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
17. Maybe not so secret. We've been having an ice storm today and only a few channels
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:40 PM
Dec 2017

on the dish have been coming in off and on. Oddly, Fox always comes on. I flipped onto it today and there was a bizarro headline about the Obama administration not investigating Hezbollah in order to make the Iran deal work. I didn't bother to listen to the whole story, but given the size of the headline it must be a brand new conspiracy theory.

newblewtoo

(667 posts)
18. You are not alone in that feeling.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:41 PM
Dec 2017

Sadly there are a lot of people in denial over that fact. The GOP has been setting the table for quite some time now. Thank you for your post. K/R

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
28. Cornered animals will stop at nothing to survive.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:11 PM
Dec 2017

The GOP and its cohorts are caged in a corner with little way out. We must be prepared for anything and everything.

Takket

(21,592 posts)
33. And don't believe any "documents" that come out
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:57 PM
Dec 2017

These people already staged a coup with Russia to seize power. They won't be above forging a few documents to make Hillary and Barak look guilty.

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