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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn the heart of Trump Country, his bases faith is unshaken
Steven Whitt fires up the coffee pot and flips on the fluorescent sign in the window of the Frosty Freeze, his diner that looks and sounds and smells about the same as it did when it opened a half-century ago. Coffee is 50 cents a cup, refills 25 cents. The pot sits on the counter, and payment is based on the honor system.
People like it that way, he thinks. It reminds them of a time before the world seemed to stray away from them, when coal was king and the values of the nation seemed the same as the values here, in Gods Country, in this small county isolated in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains.
Everyone in town comes to his diner for nostalgia and homestyle cooking. And, recently, news reporters come from all over the world to puzzle over politics because Elliott County, a blue-collar union stronghold, voted for the Democrat in each and every presidential election for its 147-year existence.
Until Donald Trump came along and promised to wind back the clock.
https://apnews.com/ee19ceb7cf0d4af4ab73c393708148bf/In-the-heart-of-Trump-Country,-his-base's-faith-is-unshaken
Can someone explain this? I just don't get it.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)It's a goddamn cult.
Fuck them
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)People on all parts of the spectrum tell themselves all sorts of lies to get through the day. It's not news.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)more arse kissing of the sainted, salf of the earth white male ...
I am one, maybe not salted, and I have LONG had my fill.
Next time we read some home spun piece like this about minorities in an urban area will be the first.
mreilly
(2,120 posts)... I don't give a fuck about these stupid fuckers, their "way of life", their "values" or anything else. They proudly raced out to vote for a dishonest, immature, lying, sexual-assaulting racist con man piece of shit. They can die in a dumpster for all I care, and I mean that very literally.
Instead of this shit we need articles about the youths coming up who are standing against racism, bigotry, hatred and dishonesty. About the undecideds who do have actual values - unlike the selfish pieces of shit depicted in this article - and how Democrats can appeal to them. About the independents who do actually have an admirable way of life and how progressive policies can correspond to that.
In short, content about valuable people with valid and worthwhile insights, not delusional useless assholes who fucked themselves - and us - by lapping up the bullshit handed to them by lying motherfucker just as worthless as them.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)I dont give a flying fuck what Trump supporters think or feel. Theyre ignorant assholes whose opinions are worthless.
riversedge
(70,197 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)We are in serious trouble unless we find a way to eliminate Nazi sentiments in the US.
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)Ohiogal
(31,981 posts)They are all so heavily steeped in delusion, belief in false equivalences, and plain old ignorance, you just can't explain any of it. How sad that they could have been on Medicaid to help their son but weren't. I just want to rip my hair out over such stupidity.
Girard442
(6,070 posts)The only way these tiny towns could be sustainable in the wake of the collapse of the local industry (coal) is for a massive and continuous infusion of government funds -- something even I as an almost-socialist think is not a particularly hot idea. The best thing we could do for these places is provide enough support for people to have practical alternatives in reach, but that only happens with a government driven by the principle that all people matter.
That, of course, is exactly the opposite of what they voted for.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)negatively cast liberals/kiss conservatives asses.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)Yes. There are still people who believe his shit. But their number is dropping every day. He has less support than any other president EVER.
These articles are meaningless, and I wonder why people seem to want to convince us that Trump's support is not waning when it obviously is, and it's waning fast.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Trumpers love to play the victims. They have their scapegoats all lined up already. Its not their fault that their life is bleak, and their future even bleaker.
How fucked are you when your best prospect is minimum wage forever, and you are convinced Donald Trump cares about you and will work to make your life better?
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Where minnimum wage can actually support a family. I vote for higher wages.
MFM008
(19,806 posts)Cares about them LIVING let alone a "living wage".
If you need it, republicans say piss off and give a raise to billionaires.
spanone
(135,828 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)"They voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war"...
LBM20
(1,580 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...when there are no means available to fix it?
No, without greater stakes for these voters, they'll go on pretending for a while longer.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Because not all the people being raised there are trump humpers. I went to university in Kentucky. And I actually know someone who was from Elliot County that now lives in the Northeast US. Now, he is a dick, but votes Democratic.
They should go to Lexington, an hour and change away and interview refugees from Elliot County. Both liberals with an education and all the lgbt for who remaining in places like Elliot County is a very real risk. Lexington is a progressive and very prosperous city surrounded by places like Elliot County. They prosper because the have all the open minded people from a 200 mile diameter around the city.
And while they are at it focus on how many of these angry, bitter, racist voters have kids on meth and Opioids. They are the kids who got their parents values. Not universal of course as anyone can fall into addiction. But being raised without hope makes it more likely.
My family is from a place like this. Many of us left and opened our minds as did a few who stayed. But most are just deplorable and are not subject to my sympathy.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)They were Democrats primarily due to their union memberships, but when their particular industry (coal) is on its death bed, they've chosen delusion over change. Can't do much about that except refining messaging, and relaying better plans to revive their communities if possible. Right now though, so many just want to be lied to.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)when Trump received over 62 million votes.
There is a lot of blame to go around.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)They're too stupid to know when the have been Hoodwinked and Bamboozled by drumpf!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)An interesting story, but it rests on an imagined US that never really existed. Similar to country music videos which generally portray the US as a country of small towns and small farms while 80% of the population actually lives in cities.
edited to change 90% to 80%
Joe941
(2,848 posts)50% rural and 50% urban. I think a few years back the balanced swayed to urban population but its not nearly 90% urban.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/03/us-urban-population-what-does-urban-really-mean/1589/
I was a bit closer.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)I looked at that data. I guess it all depends on what you consider urban. For example I'm very familiar with north dakota and I'd say besides a few cities its all little rural towns. Yet that data says many little towns are urban.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it's over 80% urban per the 2010 census, up from 79% in 2000.
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/03/us-urban-population-what-does-urban-really-mean/1589/
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-210.html
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Trump's support among whites without college degrees has dropped quite a bit since January, even white males.
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/03/541209730/trump-hits-new-low-with-white-non-college-voters
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/donald-trump-base-pew-poll/index.html
Hugin
(33,135 posts)scooped onto their foreign made knock-off Trump coffin they'll still continue to blame Democrats, Hillary, and Obama for everything bad that has ever happened to them.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,407 posts)Story after story about Trump's "base" voters seems pretty much the same I can practically tell somebody what they are about without even reading it: Trump voters' problems haven't been solved yet and, despite Trump's obvious gross incompetence and lack of actual substantive policy prescription for their particular issue(s), they still support him and maintain their unwavering/blind faith that he will come through for them in the end.
Have I got that about right?
Trump voters realizing that they've been duped and planning to support Democrats and/or non-Trump loyalist Republicans (are there actually any left in Congress) in the next elections, now THAT would be a story.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,407 posts)I get some level of disillusionment in politics, but the answer isn't to just give up and accept Trump's depravity and dishonesty.
bluestarone
(16,916 posts)DBoon
(22,360 posts)a social class in decline fights all change and holds tightly to its past
This is not the working class of Eugene Debs National Railway Union
This is not Harry Bridge's ILWU or the coal miners of Harlan County
TEB
(12,841 posts)Or unwilling to accept the idea that their fucked
Gothmog
(145,131 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Not here at DU, necessarily but they sure pop up regularly just about everywhere. I dont care about those people.