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Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:38 PM

Hillary Clinton just retweeted this.


Retweet if you agree it’s totally crazy to suggest that the FBI — having helped sink Hillary’s campaign by revealing that she was under investigation while concealing that Trump was being investigated — has secretly been anti-Trump all along.






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Reply Hillary Clinton just retweeted this. (Original post)
kpete Dec 2017 OP
dalton99a Dec 2017 #1
Heartstrings Dec 2017 #9
Botany Dec 2017 #2
Raster Dec 2017 #3
Botany Dec 2017 #4
dalton99a Dec 2017 #5
StevieM Dec 2017 #6
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #10
itcfish Dec 2017 #14
Gothmog Dec 2017 #7
disndat Dec 2017 #26
L. Coyote Dec 2017 #8
brush Dec 2017 #11
yodermon Dec 2017 #19
brush Dec 2017 #20
yodermon Dec 2017 #28
brush Dec 2017 #31
disndat Dec 2017 #21
brush Dec 2017 #27
disndat Dec 2017 #29
brush Dec 2017 #30
joshcryer Dec 2017 #13
Cha Dec 2017 #12
Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #15
lunamagica Dec 2017 #16
Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #17
saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #18
PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #22
oasis Dec 2017 #23
SHRED Dec 2017 #24
Lucinda Dec 2017 #25

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:40 PM

1. The cult is allergic to logic

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:06 PM

9. So this....

+1000

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:43 PM

2. But to Trump's base they will see the FBI as part of the "Deep State" conspiracy out to get Donny.

Watch Fox News and you wouldn't know that Mueller is a war hero and a republican.

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Response to Botany (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:55 PM

3. If Mueller and Team were investigating a Dem, he would be treated like...

...the infallible Son of God. I believe there is more in play than just Republicans trying to protect their fake president.

I think Russia/FSB/Putin*:

1. Have given large amounts of "dark money" campaign cash to Rethugs, and they are trying to make sure that never sees the light of day.

2. The RNC servers were also hacked, as were Rethug "dark" servers. I think Putin* and Co. are sitting on a huge amount of embarrassing data on many Rethug pols.

3. I also think Russia has "the receipts" showing just how much "assistance" they have given various Rethug pols in their various races. The good news is that Russia is going to give a Rethug financial assistance for their campaign. The bad news is that ONCE YOU TAKE A DIME, THEY OWN YOU.

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Response to Raster (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:59 PM

4. The New Yorker: Paul Ryan, What is said in the family stays in the family."

Paul Ryan Keeps It All in the Family

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-mccarthy-russia-trump

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said, according to Entous, a superb reporter who heard a tape recording of the colloquy. “Swear to God.

snip

In the Post piece, McCarthy’s remark is met with laughter, and Ryan cautions his colleagues, “This is an off the record . . . No leaks! . . . All right?”

And then, amid more laughter, Ryan says, “This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

“That’s how you know that we’re tight,” Steve Scalise, the House Majority Whip, says.



*********

And how did McConnell know that by blocking Garland for the SCOTUS he would get
somebody he liked better after the election?

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Response to Raster (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:59 PM

5. Beware the dark art of Russian blackmail

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/01/11/beware-the-dark-art-of-russian-blackmail/
Beware the dark art of Russian blackmail
By Christian Caryl | January 11

...

Blackmail exists everywhere, of course. But nowhere else has it become such a prominent part of political life as in post-Soviet Russia. In the wild 1990s, the gray men of the old KGB sold their talents to the highest bidders, and plenty were willing to bid: newly minted millionaires, would-be politicians, mobsters. Countless private security services competed to see who could produce the dirtiest dirt, and journalists — another feature of a strange new world of turbulent freedom — were happy to publish what they dug up.

Putin learned well. As president he soon cracked down on both the freelance spies and the journalists, but he never forgot his early lessons about the uses of kompromat, from the Russian for “compromising material.” Discrediting an enemy, he realized, can be far more effective than throwing them in jail, so the culture of kompromat has continued to thrive under his rule — though it’s now primarily deployed in the services of the Russian state.

A liberal political rival wants to be president? Have the evening news show an interview with members of a gay club singing his praises (a great way to discredit him in the eyes of a homophobic public). A billionaire oligarch challenges your power? Dig into his seamy financial dealings and share them with muckrakers. An elderly dissident criticizes you from the safety of British exile? Have your hackers covertly plant child pornography on his computer and notify the relevant authorities. As these examples show, kompromat is best viewed as a form of information warfare, sometimes true, sometimes not. More often it’s an artful mixture — all the better to intimidate and confuse.

Donald Trump actually seems to know all this quite well. During his extraordinary news conference Wednesday, he claimed to be well aware of the particular risks of operating in Putin territory. “I was in Russia, years ago, with the Miss Universe contest, which did very well,” he said. “Moscow, the Moscow area. Did very, very well. And I told many people, ‘Be careful. Because you don’t wanna see yourself on television. Cameras all over the place.’” He hastened to add, though, that he doesn’t really see Russia as exceptional in that respect.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:03 PM

6. The FBI and Comey deliberately torpedoed her candidacy going back to 2015.

They targeted her over and over again. Comey made it impossible for her to win.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:43 PM

10. I agree. I don't understand why this is not a violation of the Hatch Act. nt

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Response to StevieM (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:49 PM

14. NY FBI and Ghouliani

had a hand in this too

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:03 PM

7. I agree with Prof. Tribe

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:31 AM

26. Me Too

WOW. Prof Tribe and I are DUers and on the same page!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:04 PM

8. It wasn't the FBI releasing Comey's classified memo to Congress, it was an Idiot Congress Critter.

Tribe should at least know that much!

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:43 PM

11. Come on. Comey is no fool. He knew the memo would be leaked as intended. He let a fellow...

repug hack do it, thinking his hands would be clean.

That was a slight miscalculation as it came back to him but the dirty deed was done and it torpedoed Hillary's campaign.

Comey made other, more significant miscalculations as well — the first, helping to install trump was huge; the second, seeking redemption with his investigation of trump after realizing the magnitude of his fuck-up in installing trump in the first place.

He got fired for that one — hoisted, as they say, on his own petard, and deservedly so.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:55 PM

19. You just praised trump for obstructing justice. Have a nice day.

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Response to yodermon (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:47 PM

20. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Good one, and yes, Comey deserved his comeuppance...

for swinging the election to the least prepared and worse ever occupant of the WH.

That's what you were trying to say, right?

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Response to brush (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:13 PM

28. Rudy G and the corrupt NY FBI field office were going to leak the weiner laptop info *anyway*.

Rudy said so on live tv, with his own mouth.

Comey sent the letter as a pre-emptive CYA measure, *still assuming Hillary would win*.

Had she won, he would have been criticized for "suppressing evidence" of her email "scandal".

Just saying "hes a repuke who threw the election to the repuke" is a vast oversimplification but whatever floats it for ya.

Maybe when he testifies against trump in his treason trial you'll get it.

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Response to yodermon (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:22 PM

31. You'll get it when you acknowledge that Comey didn't reveal he was also investigating trump

A fact you're ignoring just as Comey did.

You got that?

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:32 AM

21. Why is Comey being blamed.

Correct me if I am I wrong, but didn't H.C. win by the largest margin ever, outside of the Rust Belt?

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Response to disndat (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:01 PM

27. Simple. Because in his Oct. letter he disclosed that Clinton was being investigated...

for allegedly "new" emails but he didn't disclose that trump was also being investigated at the same time for possible Russian collusion.

And in so doing Comey violated the Hatch Act.

Clinton's poll numbers immediately dropped and trump's went up.

If Comey had been fair he would've released info that both were being investigated.

He wasn't interested in being fair or not interfering with an election (Hatch Act), he was interested in swinging the election to his fellow repug, trump.

As it was, there were no new emails and the trump investigation is still on-going with guilty pleas, several indictments with more probably coming.

So yeah, Comey is to blame for changing the course of history.

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Response to brush (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:15 PM

29. The electoral college

Would Hillary have won the Rust Belt States except for what you say was the dip in the polls, after Comey's disclosure?
I am not sure if H.C. won the most popular votes ever in a presidential election, but I am not sure if the popular vote changed
after the Comey's disclosure which was a few days before the election. The polls, I think, still had HC way ahead.

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Response to disndat (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:18 PM

30. Hillary's poll numbers dropped after the Comey letter, and IMO it's naive not to think that letter..

didn't influence some rust belt voters (reflected by her drop in the polls immediately after) and thus, the electoral college vote.

You paragraph about the popular vote is not clear. Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million. That is not in dispute.

Comey has to live with the damage to the country the imbecile he help gain the WH has done.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:04 PM

13. Comey knew that the letter would be leaked.

But by the same token Obama knew that the FBI was investigating Russian ties to Trump and kept a tight lip on the whole thing. Democrats on the intelligence committee probably knew, as well, and they didn't leak.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:57 PM

12. Kick!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:08 PM

15. I'm so glad there are smart people on top of this witch hunt against the FBI and Mueller. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:21 PM

16. Done!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:39 PM

17. You're sort of asking republicans to think.

There is no evidence that they can do that. There is ample evidence that they avoid doing so with a rabid avoidance. If I behaved like them, I wouldn't want to look in the mirror either.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:42 PM

18. Crazy, mass manipulation attempted

The FBI was loyal to Mr. Comey. He appointed many Republicans and few Democrats into the power sharing circle. Like most Americans, we are disgusted with this attempt to smear our democracy and make it seem like a Russian puppet nation is the way to go.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:38 AM

22. Amen!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:50 AM

23. Dunderhead Huckabeebots don't get it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

24. There's that 'logic' thing again.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:02 AM

25. KNR

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