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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:08 PM Dec 2017

Who "lost" family over Politics this year?

At thanksgiving our family had terrible shouting matches over politics. I just left the room and decided to go for a walk. It was bad - I think everyone made good, but there was a dark cloud over that family get together and it may never be the same again.

Do you have any stories?

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Who "lost" family over Politics this year? (Original Post) Joe941 Dec 2017 OP
Yes, but it happened in the mid 60s. DURHAM D Dec 2017 #1
I've Lost Life Long Friends This Past Year Over Politics..... global1 Dec 2017 #2
No family.... safeinOhio Dec 2017 #3
I am very fortunate when it comes to family and politics. Arkansas Granny Dec 2017 #4
yes handmade34 Dec 2017 #5
Well mine was a doozy samplegirl Dec 2017 #6
If your brothers old enough for S.S. and Medicare I hope he doesn't cry too loud blueinredohio Dec 2017 #10
I've essentially written off one of my son-in-laws. Paladin Dec 2017 #7
I lost family period... MrScorpio Dec 2017 #8
I was able to bring my gop parents around during bush: Now they watch msnbc too much. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #9
Well, my older brother has been an asshole Republican for quite a while. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #11

global1

(25,205 posts)
2. I've Lost Life Long Friends This Past Year Over Politics.....
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

I have lost total respect for them. I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinion - but when they try to defend the absurd - I just can't get past that.

Arkansas Granny

(31,499 posts)
4. I am very fortunate when it comes to family and politics.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

All the immediate family are liberals, to some degree, so we don't have to worry about arguments over politics during holiday get togethers. It's easier to have family together when you don't have to walk on eggshells to avoid a big blowup.

samplegirl

(11,451 posts)
6. Well mine was a doozy
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:54 PM
Dec 2017

My brother came for dinner as he is a widower. My friend asked him what it was that he liked about Trump. His reply was he couldn’t vote for Hillary. My friend a fellow D. U.er and lifetime friend told him how he voted against his entire family as they were all at poverty level. My blood pressure soared as he went on to praise Trump for not taking any shit! It was all I could do but not to grab his plate from him and tell him to go find some Republican table that served the kinda meal I make each year 2 days worth of work and around 200.00 to serve complete with shrimp cocktails a treat for us. Mind you I’m his sister 60 years old lost my job in March with Rite Aid and my husband at a lower wage job and school loan since the age of 55 after his factory job was sold out to a Japanese company and he’s going on and on about Trump! I explained that not all of us were lucky enough to retire with a pension before Buxh took office and God most of our 401K gone. The bottom line was telling him how lucky his generation was and how me and my husband both started over and he’s voting against us...as I feed him at my table. He’s a snowbird and spends his winter in Flordia while my husband is working 12 hour shifts plowing snow weekends included! My mother and father were rolling in their graves I’m sure as I was the only child who took my mother in after my fathers death and cared for her lovingly in my home for 10 years and my husband never even claimed her on his taxes. He’s told me to quit posting things about Trump when he calls me from Florida!Calling to find out if my husband needs to check on his house here! Same old story greedy white men who can afford his lifestyle and vote against everything my father fought for! I won’t tell my husband to check on his house! He can stay in Flordia and drink his umbrella drinks and hire someone to check on his house. He’s ate his last meal at my table! Brother or not! I’m scrubbing toilets and cleaning floors and apartments for government subsides housing at age 60! Fuck my brother and anyone who voted Trump.... we are tired of starting over!

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
10. If your brothers old enough for S.S. and Medicare I hope he doesn't cry too loud
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

when republicans start cutting them. But I don't blame you I would do the same thing.

Paladin

(28,235 posts)
7. I've essentially written off one of my son-in-laws.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:04 PM
Dec 2017

He worships trump, mainly because of a perception that the new tax law will benefit him and his business, to the extent of a few thousand dollars. I honestly believe that my son-in-law wouldn't mind if trump imposed a dictatorship on this country tomorrow morning---just as long as those tax savings remained in place. Luckily he and my daughter live far away, so I don't have to tolerate him very often or for very long. I probably ought to feel guilty about these feelings...but I don't.

lindysalsagal

(20,538 posts)
9. I was able to bring my gop parents around during bush: Now they watch msnbc too much.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:15 PM
Dec 2017

They despise the gop now. So, we're good.

I knew Dad was never going back when I saw the "Somewhere in Texas a villiage is missing it's idiot" magnet appeared on the fridge.

He made me promise not to tell my sisters that he voted for Kerry. Lol!

So, I know life-long republicans can sometimes be turned: They won't unless you are someone they know and love and trust, and only if you have good, clear, irrefutable evidence. I showed them our own U.S. foreign affairs website where they predicted how many iraqis would die after the occupation to dysentary and destroyed roads and hospitals...clearly we were intent on killing, not freeing iraqis.

Nothing they could say about it when it was our own foreign affairs govt website. Then, after the wmd's never appeared, they got angry and tore up their membership cards and mailed them back to the local office.,...

I doubt it's as easy when it's about religion: Mine were already off organized religion. You may never break through that. Religious people are already blind and deaf, and have been conditioned to expect and even enjoy counter arguments. It strengthens their attachment because they become defenders of jesus. Religions feed off of an us-vs-them paradigm. If your family subscribe to that, you're screwed. They'll give you up willingly for ghosts they'll never see. In some ways religion can be even more reliable than human relationships: Humans will eventually let you down, but there is never a moment when you can say, "There! That was the moment god wasn't here...." cause he's never there.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,801 posts)
11. Well, my older brother has been an asshole Republican for quite a while.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:34 AM
Dec 2017

He lives about 2,000 miles from me, the distance between New Mexico and DC, and I don't see him very often. Just as well.

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