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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/29/1728372/-Alabama-lawyer-reveals-Obama-s-demand-for-loyalty-when-first-meeting-with-US-attorneys?detail=facebookAlabama lawyer reveals Obama's demand for loyalty when first meeting with US attorneys
By Leslie Salzillo
Friday Dec 29, 2017 · 7:14 AM EST
Joyce White Vance is a University of Alabama Law Professor who is often seen on MSNBC and served America as an attorney in Birmingham. She served as a federal prosecutor for 25 years and is a wife and mother.
In a tweet Thursday night, Vance expressed her respect for President Obama and how he made it clear to his appointed US attorneyswho they will be serving. Here is what she revealed.
Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance
The first time President Obama met with US Attorneys, he told us, I appointed you but you dont serve me. You serve the American people. And I expect you to act with independence & integrity. None of us ever forgot that.
December 29, 2017
Below is the original tweet:
Link to tweet
This is what a real leader looks like and he is dearly missed. You can read more about Joyce White Vance via law.ua.edu/directory/Peop
H2O Man
(73,581 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)demanded loyalty, if the internet search thing didnt work the way it did I wouldnt care.
Do you see what I mean?
I say this with respect, thanks for the link and article.
And yes, Obama is a man and a patriot. Trump is neither.
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)am glad you enjoyed it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)post it here and there and of course they dont read the article.
It just reads like he demanded loyalty to himself which of course he didn't do and would never do, but no biggie.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)It looked like PBO demanded loyalty. I get after reading it that he did not, but it made me catch my breath at first.
azureblue
(2,149 posts)everything we say or do? IOW, don't do anything they may intentionally misuse? I say nope - let's give them all of these truths right in their faces - truths about honesty, integrity, honor, veracity. Words they probably don't even know much less can spell.
7962
(11,841 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)I congratulate the author of the original tweet. If it is getting this much play here on a site supportive of President Obama, I can only imagine the reaction on the right. Delicious in its little play on words.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)It does no damage. Because WE know or suspect that its a good story. That it does not say "...demands loyalty to HIM" And we also know his character, that he would never demand personal loyalty. I went into the story with the full confidence that it was not a negative story against Obama.
But......brainwashed deplorables will latch onto that headline looking for any kind of dirt on Obama. They would go into a story with this headline expecting to be vindicated in their indoctrination that anything Trump is accused of, Obama did it twice as bad. So it would affect them more. At least a small number anyways. I suspect that most would simply dismiss it as a fake story.
eppur_se_muova
(36,280 posts)Let them taste bitter tears of disappointment.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)brush
(53,815 posts)The head of the article threw me off too.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Since I have a very good idea of the character of President Obama I had a good idea of what was to come. I feel quite certain the original author selected that title on purpose and for the purpose of provoking the right to click on it. I would have done likewise in the hope that I would send thousands of reich-wingers clicking; looking for evidence that President Obama was a man of the same poor character and principles as 45. Knowing, all the while, that they would all be feeling the pit fall from their stomachs just a bit when they read the words of a real man of character.
triron
(22,011 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)To the American People.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Another difference between a president who studied the law and a president who circumvented the law.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)And one who struggles to spell the word
thbobby
(1,474 posts)is analogous to comparing a filet mignon to a pile of ... Well, insert whatever here. My intent is obvious.
orange, slimy tripe
Gothmog
(145,481 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)and highly recommend!"
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,136 posts)spanone
(135,857 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Now we have a kremlin-indebted, five-time draft-dodging, republican casino hustler. Pathetic.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)is a premier American leader in this age of the criminal-in-chief and his and his family's looting of the american treasury and with the help of repthugliKKKans everywhere destroying what little democracy remains after IDIOTS, BIGOTS AND RACISTS voted for this POS calling himself potus.
keithbvadu2
(36,869 posts)Oath of Allegiance
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath
(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."
The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."
rzemanfl
(29,566 posts)still_one
(92,325 posts)assume that President Obama was "demanding loyalty" to himself, and not to the U.S. which is what the article actually indicates
Moostache
(9,897 posts)I'm tearing up over here just feeling the immense sense of what the country has lost with this abortion of a president in the current administration. The precipitous drop off is the most jarring in the history of the nation, and maybe in world history. We lost a leader and a statesman and replaced him with a mad carnival barker with low self-esteem and a real hair problem that somehow no one tells him to address.
Truth be told, I could care less about the hair if he would only resign...yesterday!!!
usaf-vet
(6,194 posts)To all my fellow veterans and elected officials. REMEMBER your OATH.
I am a veteran and I have held an elected office.
In both cases I raised my right hand and swore that I would.....
..... "support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic".
Let's all remember that oath and strive to continue to defend the Constitution.
The GOP, Trump and the billionaires are working to destroy the Constitution amendment by amendment, brick by brick.
It's not about the flag or the National Anthem. It is now and always should be about the Constitution!
Defend it and keep it strong and it will defend us all in return!! This is where all our loyalties should lie.
gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)President Obama led our country with grace and dignity.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Donnie Two-Scoops does not even get the concept. As many Americans don't. But they don't get into the Oval Office with it.
Blue Owl
(50,482 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)The difference between one with class and one that's an ass.