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global1

(25,247 posts)
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 06:58 PM Jan 2018

Why Do We Drop The Ball In Times Square For New Years?.....

Seems to me we should be raising the ball for the New Year. Dropping the ball - to me - has a negative connotation. How did we come by the tradition of dropping the ball? or the shoe in Key West? or the potato in Boise, Idaho?, etc.

Wouldn't it make more sense raising things on New Years Eve. Kind of like raising your glasses when toasting an occasion.

Just curious - cause I never could quite understand - dropping the ball.

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Why Do We Drop The Ball In Times Square For New Years?..... (Original Post) global1 Jan 2018 OP
Tradition. democratisphere Jan 2018 #1
What Is The Derivation To Such A Negative Connotation Tradition?.... global1 Jan 2018 #3
As far as I'm concerned our nation has really screwed up and dropped the ball democratisphere Jan 2018 #6
I take it SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #2
It's A Day Off Of Work .... global1 Jan 2018 #4
I wondered about it last night as we watched... Phentex Jan 2018 #13
It's a good visual. Good on site and for tv dembotoz Jan 2018 #5
Isn't It Better Visually To Raise The Ball... global1 Jan 2018 #9
Gravity. pangaia Jan 2018 #7
It's a nautical thing.... jpak Jan 2018 #8
Thomas Edison, patent troll, stole it from England's Royal Observatory hunter Jan 2018 #10
''The first "time-ball" was installed atop England's Royal Observatory at Greenwich in 1833. ... '' Donkees Jan 2018 #11
In addition to responses #10 and #11 above, physics. Allowing a massive ball to drop is easier stevenleser Jan 2018 #12
Oh - We Can Put A Man On The Moon But... global1 Jan 2018 #14
Nope, I didn't say we can't, but what is the benefit to spending the additional money on this? nt stevenleser Jan 2018 #19
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Historic NY Jan 2018 #15
In the NFL its called a Fumble! yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #16
Think of it as a basketball Blues Heron Jan 2018 #17
Because not everybody gives a shit about sports metaphors? n/t X_Digger Jan 2018 #18
If this is your biggest concern ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #20
It's the visual of the countdown to midnight. Not sure why that isn't obvious to more peeps. WillowTree Jan 2018 #21

global1

(25,247 posts)
3. What Is The Derivation To Such A Negative Connotation Tradition?....
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jan 2018

Seems to me if the ball can be dropped - it wouldn't take much to reverse direction and raise the ball.

Doesn't raising make more sense?

Dropping the ball in sports is negative.

Dropping the ball in a business situation is negative.

Have you ever had a boss tell you that you 'dropped the ball'?

Negative, negative, negative!!!!

Time to change the tradition. Maybe we would have better luck in the New Year if we raised the ball.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. As far as I'm concerned our nation has really screwed up and dropped the ball
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jan 2018

by electing drumpf. The direction of the ball is appropriate for these times. Perhaps once drumpf is gone, we could launch rockets on New Year's Eve.

global1

(25,247 posts)
4. It's A Day Off Of Work ....
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jan 2018

a day to relax. I'm trying to keep negative thoughts of Trump out of my head today.

That's when I began pondering the ball drop.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
13. I wondered about it last night as we watched...
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:33 PM
Jan 2018

it seems kinda dumb for a tradition, in general. I like your idea better.

global1

(25,247 posts)
9. Isn't It Better Visually To Raise The Ball...
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jan 2018

and have fireworks and the New Year posted at the top?

jpak

(41,758 posts)
8. It's a nautical thing....
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

Time Balls were dropped from Time Towers in many ports to allow ship captains to set their chronometers.

Which were essential for longitude measurements.

They tell the time.

Donkees

(31,406 posts)
11. ''The first "time-ball" was installed atop England's Royal Observatory at Greenwich in 1833. ... ''
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jan 2018
The actual notion of a ball "dropping" to signal the passage of time dates back long before New Year's Eve was ever celebrated in Times Square. The first "time-ball" was installed atop England's Royal Observatory at Greenwich in 1833. This ball would drop at one o'clock every afternoon, allowing the captains of nearby ships to precisely set their chronometers (a vital navigational instrument).

Around 150 public time-balls are believed to have been installed around the world after the success at Greenwich, though few survive and still work. The tradition is carried on today in places like the United States Naval Observatory in Washington, DC, where a time-ball descends from a flagpole at noon each day - and of course, once a year in Times Square, where it marks the stroke of midnight not for a few ships' captains, but for over one billion people watching worldwide.

https://www.timessquarenyc.org/times-square-new-years-eve/nye-history-times-square-ball
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. In addition to responses #10 and #11 above, physics. Allowing a massive ball to drop is easier
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

less costly and has less of a chance of failure than to elevate it.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. Nope, I didn't say we can't, but what is the benefit to spending the additional money on this? nt
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jan 2018
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