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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Beauty of "Fire And Fury"
The more Republican spokes-whores and WH insiders dismiss Fire And Fury as gossip-laden pulp fiction, the more interest there is among the citizenry in reading it.
The fact is that many people who normally eschew political books will read one that is described as being full of salacious tidbits about the people they see and hear on a regular basis especially given that those people are still part of the current administration. That has been proven true over decades; if it werent a fact, Hollywood gossip tabloids would have ceased to exist long ago.
Given that Trump is a proven liar, and his administration and toadies have regularly blurred the lines between what is fact and what is fiction on his behalf, the truthfulness of Woolfs book has been rendered almost irrelevant. The American public is going to eat it up, one way or the other and speculation about what actually IS factual and what is embellishment or the imaginings of the author will have little impact on the discussions that will be taking place at office water coolers and elsewhere across the nation.
From what Ive seen thus far of the books excerpts, Woolfs insider accounts of what took place in the WH mesh seamlessly with what weve seen of the public Trump and his sycophants along with what weve learned to date from Muellers investigation. We have all witnessed the pattern of behaviour of an out-of-control pResident, and the infighting between those jockeying for positions of influence within his sphere, and their willingness to back-bite those they see as competitors for Trumps favour.
In other words, there is nothing in Woolfs version of events that doesnt at least ring true and for many, thats enough thruthiness to make it wholly believable.
Trumps outrage at the publication of Fire And Fury is just another self-inflicted wound. Had he and his WH cohorts simply laughed it off as implausible fiction, at least some of the damage would be under control. But as weve seen over and again, Trump cant resist being his own worst enemy and, in this case as in others, his outrage serves to pour gasoline on what could have been dismissed as an inconvenient fire.
Ive no doubt that Woolf knew with certainty that Trump would blow his stack, and counted on the fact that his predictable reaction would catapult book sales and he has been proven correct in that assessment.
If we know nothing else about Trump, we do know this: If you put a gun in his hand, he will aim it at his own head first while telling his perceived enemies to be very afraid, because hell be aiming at them next.
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)underpants
(182,788 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)It seems most of the material, including stories of others, came directly from Steve Bannon?
mcar
(42,307 posts)apparently allowed the access because they thought the book would be positive.
Most incompetent administration ever!
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)Wolff likely would've written a positive piece if it wasnt such a clusterf*** in the WH. I doubt he set out to write a hit piece, maybe so. But if the material isnt there, the story isnt there. And knowing these people they probably thought they would and were doing a good job and would receive favorable treatment from Wolff.
Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)So, that told me all I needed to know.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)1. The author will sell a gazillion copies of it and use the money to support right-wing causes and candidates, and maybe buy a yacht. Most likely, the majority of sales will be to liberals and other Trump-haters.
2. Mainstream Repugs and Trumpsters will throw shade and projection all over this thing, as they discredit fine points and use the "he said/she said" argument to cast doubt on many parts of it.
3. Faux News will use it as an example of false narrative created to discredit their beloved pResident.
4. Republicans will have another massive distraction from their corrupt governance.
5. After that, anytime a liberal makes reference to it - that reference will be declared false narrative.
6. By early spring, all who bought the book will have another door stop.
PS: I hope I'm wrong and the book somehow helps to remove this scum from office.
.................
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)And no one is suggesting that.
However, the WH's reaction to the book is not doing Trump any good. It's just another case of protesting too much, as per usual.
As they say, it's the hit dog that yelps.
askyagerz
(776 posts)That would keep someone like Trump up at night. Just us knowing his vanity secrets might crack him before Mueller does. This looks like a big everyone point at the Trumps and laugh book. It will not sit well with the king. His ego let this book happen. Let's hope its big enough to crush the cockroach
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Not if you know where to download it.
The book may be trash or truth, but no one's going to get any $$$ from me for it.
askyagerz
(776 posts)They already gave us all the juicy parts.
This is why I hate watching movie trailers...
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)that show the final scenes of the film in them?
askyagerz
(776 posts)A movie will get plenty of advertisement by word of mouth if it's actually good. No need to spoil it
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Like you, I would not pay anything for it. We already know the degree of asshole tRump is.
Many Republicans will just vote for and fund a different Republican.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Not if you know where to download it.
hunter
(38,311 posts)... I always respect their wishes.
Channels for pirating things give those things an artificial aura of value.
If somebody is stealing something, it must be valuable, right?
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Just like when you give friends a book to read or check it out from a library. There's no theft.
hunter
(38,311 posts)Most of my own work is Creative Commons, free with attribution and non-commercial use, or Open Source.
But fuck you if you steal anything I choose to copyright or patent.
Nevertheless, I do think copyrights and patents are often severely abused by giant corporations who can afford the most bad-ass lawyers.
A long time ago, when I was young and naive, my partner sold some of my work to the defense industry. I'm a pacifist, religiously so. I was not happy. We eventually separated when I jumped out of her moving car in Berkeley, but not especially for that.
My ex was so pissed off with me I couldn't use her as a reference. I did a few times before I figured it out, once with a place that manufactured polysiloxanes. I breezed through the first interview, but when they called me back for a second interview they'd talked to my ex, and they were suddenly very concerned that I'd reject the small amount of work they did for military contractors, which was purely commodity shit.
I dunno, maybe they had some secret military contract and I was not their guy, but I don't think so. I didn't get the job. It all turned out for the best, me finding work in medicine and education, and meeting my wife.
The Open Source and Creative Commons universe is huge. There's no good reason to pirate anything.
If I'm not willing to buy the book I won't read it, unless someone who has bought it gives it to me. Same with movies, software, and everything else.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)And welcome to ignore.
Please try to keep your hateful commenting to yourself and disagree respectively.
But when you are in the wrong, that's all you can do I guess.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)many many times over and over.
Don't put words in my mouth, thank you.
womanofthehills
(8,702 posts)I want all the gossip!!
VOX
(22,976 posts)In itself, the book wont likely sink it. BUT... it does provide Mueller with a valuable research tool; more immediately, it acutely stresses #45, where hes likely to wander farther off course, which helps the opposition.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)I'm happy.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Of course, a few Trumpsters will buy and use it as a "Guide for Proper Living", LOL.
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)The more they scream about it and deny the allegations, the more people will want to read and discuss it!
Smart politicians know: The less mountain piled in defense of an "untruth", the less visible it is from a distance.
How much have we heard Hillary say about the stones lobbed at her?
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)If the book IS full of lies, then it truly is about Trump.
oxbow
(2,034 posts)The underlying message is about his cognitive decline. The gossipy parts are juicy but the real meat is about how he cant remember people hed met a year ago, how he repeats the same stories multiple times in the span of a few minutes. These are things that can be confirmed by anybody who has been in contact with him recently. Now we are hearing that members of Congress are taking his health more seriously, asking doctors from Duty to Warn to testify, and you see how knowledge is trickling up the chain.
The evidence for treason is already out there, both in muellers hands and for anybody else who is paying attention to see. *But the evidence of his cognitive decline (and the clear and present danger to us that comes with that) is the one thing that needs to be hammered home whenever discussing Wolffs book.*
joet67
(624 posts)I cant wait to get it. Finally had a reason to use a B&N gift card my sister gave me a year ago at christmas 🎄😊
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Gothmog
(145,176 posts)niyad
(113,284 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)People saying they bought the book BECAUSE Trump tried to have it suppressed.