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Maddow show now talking of bombshell nytimes story.. (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2018 OP
NYT: FBI Special Counsel has substantiated claims by Comey about interactions w/ Trump Dennis Donovan Jan 2018 #1
And we are all completely shocked. Amaryllis Jan 2018 #2
Handwritten notes from CatWoman Jan 2018 #3
Chickens, meet roost. nolabear Jan 2018 #17
Haha-monkey meet wrench. kairos12 Jan 2018 #20
Hand written notes by Priebus? Did I hear that right?! eleny Jan 2018 #4
yes. riversedge Jan 2018 #7
! eleny Jan 2018 #8
Shampoo CatWoman Jan 2018 #14
I've got a stitch in my side right about now eleny Jan 2018 #16
i wish I'd said that. n/t Different Drummer Jan 2018 #18
DUzy malaise Jan 2018 #22
Here--from nytimes.......... riversedge Jan 2018 #10
And Ty Cobb declined to comment eleny Jan 2018 #12
"...they hoped..." Miles Archer Jan 2018 #26
Yup! Reince freakin Priebus, baby!! I saw his name and just screamed out loud!! Leghorn21 Jan 2018 #31
Reince Priebus handwritten notes substantiate claims by Comey of the conversations with Trump wishstar Jan 2018 #5
IMHO--this is the most important part of article! riversedge Jan 2018 #11
apparently priebus and spicer had handwritten notes drray23 Jan 2018 #6
But experts are divided about whether the accumulated evidence is enough for Mr. Mueller to brin riversedge Jan 2018 #19
I don't think they are going to get him on this based on the guests take on Maddow but chowder66 Jan 2018 #29
huh? triron Jan 2018 #32
trump ignores law. spanone Jan 2018 #9
Sessions wanted 1 negative article a day in the news about Comey, according to a person with knowle riversedge Jan 2018 #13
This is amazing that the Atty General of the United States DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #34
Lots of bombshells - Trumpworld is starting to look pretty cratered. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #15
But, it seems that the crater needs to be the size of the Grand Canyon before Repugs riversedge Jan 2018 #21
I have a question about a statement made by the reporter she just interviewed. triron Jan 2018 #23
At the time Trump was not yet target of investigation, but that changed when he fired Comey wishstar Jan 2018 #24
Was this verified and how? Or is this just what Trump said? triron Jan 2018 #27
Why or how can Sessions remain as AG after this? Jarqui Jan 2018 #25
I simply can't stand this SHRED Jan 2018 #28
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #30
"Corrupt intent" DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #33
kick for visibility triron Jan 2018 #35
kick again triron Jan 2018 #36
This certainly helps explain Reinces exceptionally Grammy23 Jan 2018 #37
knr triron Jan 2018 #38
needs to stay upfront! triron Jan 2018 #39
+1000 triron Jan 2018 #40
More visibility triron Jan 2018 #41

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. NYT: FBI Special Counsel has substantiated claims by Comey about interactions w/ Trump
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:06 PM
Jan 2018

This means they have substantiated Obstruction!

eleny

(46,166 posts)
16. I've got a stitch in my side right about now
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jan 2018

Enter laughing, exit laughing. So much laughing. A year's worth and about damned time.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
10. Here--from nytimes..........
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jan 2018



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/trump-sessions-russia-mcgahn.html?_r=0


....................The special counsel has received handwritten notes from Mr. Trump’s former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, showing that Mr. Trump talked to Mr. Priebus about how he had called Mr. Comey to urge him to say publicly that he was not under investigation. The president’s determination to fire Mr. Comey even led one White House lawyer to take the extraordinary step of misleading Mr. Trump about whether he had the authority to remove him.

The New York Times has also learned that four days before Mr. Comey was fired, one of Mr. Sessions’s aides asked a congressional staff member whether he had damaging information about Mr. Comey, part of an apparent effort to undermine the F.B.I. director. It was not clear whether Mr. Mueller’s investigators knew about this incident.

Mr. Mueller has also been examining a false statement that the president dictated on Air Force One in July in response to an article in The Times about a meeting that Trump campaign officials had with Russians in 2016. A new book, “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House,” by Michael Wolff, says that the president’s lawyers believed that the statement was “an explicit attempt to throw sand into the investigation’s gears,” and that it led one of Mr. Trump’s spokesmen to quit because he believed it was obstruction of justice.

Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer dealing with the special counsel’s investigation, declined to comment.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers have said the president has fully cooperated with the investigation, and they have expressed confidence that the inquiry will soon be coming to a close. They said that they believed the president would be exonerated, and that they hoped to have that conclusion made public.............................

eleny

(46,166 posts)
12. And Ty Cobb declined to comment
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jan 2018

Too busy sobbing into his mustache and looking for the exits.

This is priceless. What timing.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
31. Yup! Reince freakin Priebus, baby!! I saw his name and just screamed out loud!!
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:11 PM
Jan 2018

WHASSSUP, RP?!
!!!!!!!!hahahahaha!!!!!!!

drray23

(7,627 posts)
6. apparently priebus and spicer had handwritten notes
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jan 2018

and mueller has them. they comfirm that Trump was trying to block the investigation.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
19. But experts are divided about whether the accumulated evidence is enough for Mr. Mueller to brin
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:19 PM
Jan 2018

lordy, what will it take???

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/trump-sessions-russia-mcgahn.html?_r=0

..................Mr. Trump’s lawyers have said the president has fully cooperated with the investigation, and they have expressed confidence that the inquiry will soon be coming to a close. They said that they believed the president would be exonerated, and that they hoped to have that conclusion made public.

Legal experts said that of the two primary issues Mr. Mueller appears to be investigating — whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice while in office and whether there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia — there is currently a larger body of public evidence tying the president to a possible crime of obstruction.

But the experts are divided about whether the accumulated evidence is enough for Mr. Mueller to bring an obstruction case. They said it could be difficult to prove that the president, who has broad authority over the executive branch, including the hiring and firing of officials, had corrupt intentions when he took actions like ousting the F.B.I. director. Some experts said the case would be stronger if there was evidence that the president had told witnesses to lie under oath.



Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, argued to Mr. Sessions that he did not need to recuse himself from the Russia investigation until it was further along. Al Drago/The New York Times

The accounts of the episodes are based on documents reviewed by The Times, as well as interviews with White House officials and others briefed on the investigation. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be identified discussing a continuing investigation.

Regardless of whether Mr. Mueller believes there is enough evidence to make a case against the president, Mr. Trump’s belief that his attorney general should protect him provides an important window into how he governs. Presidents have had close relationships with their attorneys general, but Mr. Trump’s obsession with loyalty is particularly unusual, especially given the Justice Department’s investigation into him and his associates......................................

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
29. I don't think they are going to get him on this based on the guests take on Maddow but
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jan 2018

that's not a sure thing. Rachel then mentioned the statement that Trump dictated about Trump jr's meeting, that may have legs, imo.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
13. Sessions wanted 1 negative article a day in the news about Comey, according to a person with knowle
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:14 PM
Jan 2018


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NYT:

After Mr. Comey’s testimony, a Sessions aide approached a Capitol Hill staff member asking whether the staffer had any derogatory info about the Comey

Sessions wanted 1 negative article a day in the news about Comey, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting



DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
34. This is amazing that the Atty General of the United States
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:14 PM
Jan 2018

was trying to obstruct a case in his own Justice Dept. Of course John Mitchell did that, too.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
21. But, it seems that the crater needs to be the size of the Grand Canyon before Repugs
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jan 2018

will start to admit that Trump is evil

triron

(22,001 posts)
23. I have a question about a statement made by the reporter she just interviewed.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jan 2018

He stated that Comey told Trump he wasn't under investigation (as if it were a fact).
Did anyone else hear it this way? I don't think he was accurate. Interested on your input.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
24. At the time Trump was not yet target of investigation, but that changed when he fired Comey
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jan 2018

The reporter Schmidt was correct about what Comey told Trump at that time. Comey refused to announce publicly that Trump was not a target, since although Trump was not yet directly being targeted, that was subject to change depending on what the investigation unearthed and if Trump acted to obstruct during course of investigation.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
33. "Corrupt intent"
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jan 2018

is supposed to be the hardest part of obstruction of justice charges. There seems to be now more than ample evidence that everything Trump did was directed at trying to stop the Russia investigation.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
37. This certainly helps explain Reinces exceptionally
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jan 2018

low profile of late. Trying to keep his head down and out of target range. Too late Priebus. You forgot you kept a diary of who said what. Now all you can say is “Hummana, hummana, hummana.”

Couldn't Happen to a more deserving rat.
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