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Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:24 AM Jan 2018

America is sick beyond repair

I just switched off national geographic channel. There was á 'documantary' about prison life... Where NGC was promoting and making it heroism about being in jail.
You f*** americans are sick beyond repair! Socialists? You have no idea that europe is not ruled by socialists, but still., Every single country of our union has mandatotory social! Care. Yes, you read it right... Not only every European has á right to free medical Care, but we are taken Care off when falling without á job, when á family member needs extra Care, and on and on... And oh yeach, airbus has no competitor in Boeing, ESA in NASA, and on and on...
So please wake up and resist, i love you all x

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America is sick beyond repair (Original Post) Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 OP
kinda funny as America has bailed Europe out of some messes over the years... beachbum bob Jan 2018 #1
Keep believing that Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #5
Did OP touch a nerve, Bob? Anon-C Jan 2018 #55
Thanks for your positive thoughts this morning PJMcK Jan 2018 #2
Belgium is a failed state oberliner Jan 2018 #3
You do not even know where Belgium is located Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #7
But come over Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #12
I'd love to oberliner Jan 2018 #42
Huh? oberliner Jan 2018 #41
Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards... Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2018 #53
Beyond repair? blogslut Jan 2018 #4
Thanks Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #11
Possibly the first time in marybourg Jan 2018 #54
And yes Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #32
OK, Komrade Skittles Jan 2018 #6
As posted Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #9
OK, Komrade Skittles Jan 2018 #13
Deep... Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #21
Derp... Skittles Jan 2018 #36
Correct. shanny Jan 2018 #43
Just asking... lisby Jan 2018 #51
Imagine if we would have stayed isolationist during WW2. roamer65 Jan 2018 #8
Did Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #10
Why are you so hostile. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #14
I am not Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #17
Two steps forward, one step back. I have faith that this will be corrected. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #19
I really hope so Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #25
But Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #18
Its common sense. roamer65 Jan 2018 #15
Actually, I wish the EU would become a federal republic. roamer65 Jan 2018 #20
Please do Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #22
That is up to you all over there. roamer65 Jan 2018 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #26
Must have hit home with that one. roamer65 Jan 2018 #28
Not at all Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #29
The US was a confederation like the EU until after our civil war from 1861-1865. roamer65 Jan 2018 #37
How are elections funded in your country? mahina Jan 2018 #39
I don't know the America I live in is pretty awesome. ileus Jan 2018 #16
Well America has some problems - gaping wounds - but it's home for me, so i wish it well. el_bryanto Jan 2018 #24
Thanks Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #27
healthcare is not socialism AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #30
And Belgium Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #34
But apparantly Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #31
The US prison industrial complex is absolutely the worst, and a scourge appalachiablue Jan 2018 #48
Our problems are fixable, BUT... UnTied Jan 2018 #33
Amen to that Kogaratsu72 Jan 2018 #35
Yes! UnTied Jan 2018 #46
Super happy to meet you here. mahina Jan 2018 #40
No. Thank you UnTied Jan 2018 #45
"sick beyond repair"? panader0 Jan 2018 #38
I understand your Jspur Jan 2018 #44
Right! To young people, the face of socialism is Bernie Sanders, not some ancient Russian. mahina Jan 2018 #47
Agreed I'm one of the Jspur Jan 2018 #50
There is much wrong with America, I agree. But there is so much more right with America. Fla Dem Jan 2018 #49
yes, very sick handmade34 Jan 2018 #52
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. kinda funny as America has bailed Europe out of some messes over the years...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jan 2018

last time I looked, America paid for the rebuilding of Europe...

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
5. Keep believing that
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jan 2018

Your free money ain't that free anymore. Or have we all forgotten pnac? Thé marshall plan gave Europa á boost it did not need, thé best example being Germany itself and it's wirtshaffswunder, but got Europa firmly in america's grasp.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
2. Thanks for your positive thoughts this morning
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jan 2018

By the way, your last sentence contradicts your thread title.

And we love you, too.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Belgium is a failed state
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:33 AM
Jan 2018
That the Paris terrorist attacks had strong links to a suburb of Brussels didn’t shock many of us who live in the Belgian capital. Radio stations here in both French and Dutch are full of discussions about Molenbeek that elicit indignation, sorrow, anger, guilt, despair, defiance. But not surprise.

Friday’s attacks in Paris were but the latest in a litany of jihadist incidents over the last two years involving people with ties to Molenbeek, including the 2014 shooting at the Jewish museum in Brussels, the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January and the failed attack in August on a Thalys train.

The absence of surprise also makes sense because long before the emergence of jihadism, Molenbeek had acquired a reputation for lawlessness. Most people in Brussels have very little understanding of what such jihadism is and how it comes to link Brussels with Paris, Iraq and Syria, but they were already aware that Molenbeek had high levels of petty crime: muggings, drug dealing and burglaries.

It would suit some parts of the Belgian political establishment to keep the current agonizing at the level of Molenbeek — to blame, for example, the reign of Philippe Moureaux, the socialist mayor of Molenbeek from 1993-2012, an interior minister and justice minister in federal governments of the early 1980s. Or to fault certain mosques, as Prime Minister Charles Michel recently did.

But the more painful question that should be asked is: What do Molenbeek’s failures reveal about the deep dysfunction in the Belgian state? That Molenbeek has been allowed to become a breeding-ground for jihadism says some damning things about formal and informal structures in Belgium, and in particular Brussels.

https://www.politico.eu/article/belgium-failed-state-security-services-molenbeek-terrorism/

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
7. You do not even know where Belgium is located
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jan 2018

So before calling brave little Belgium á failed state, try making Amerika á place where you do not have to je afraid to fall sick, jobless and so on, because at least we have that...

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
12. But come over
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jan 2018

And i Will welcome you as any belgian would and i Will show you my little country and Molenbeek 😁

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. I'd love to
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:47 PM
Jan 2018

International travel is not something that is feasible for me - but hopefully someday.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
4. Beyond repair?
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:36 AM
Jan 2018

Come on.

Your country, whatever it is, has the benefit of having survived thousands of years of oppression, slaughter, depravity, war and whatnot. America is a teenage nation. Give us time. We'll get worse, then better, then worse, then better.

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
11. Thanks
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jan 2018

Thé only sane reply. 😋 But guys it s thé first time a madman took over one of the most powerfull countries..

marybourg

(12,629 posts)
54. Possibly the first time in
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

YOUR lifetime, but human history is full of great nations being brought down by madmen.

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
9. As posted
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jan 2018

Keep believing that they level of social security has been there world of communistische or socialists, it has not. And again, thé democratic party has á program that Puts itself to thé far right of europe's parties so any Republic in citing thé democratic party as being socialist is just ludicrous

lisby

(408 posts)
51. Just asking...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jan 2018

Have you actually been to the Netherlands anytime ever? Because I have had the good fortune to spend time there and I would trade in my passport for one of theirs any fucking day of the year.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. Imagine if we would have stayed isolationist during WW2.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jan 2018

Western Europe would have either been Nazi German or Soviet bloc.

Wow...what a choice...

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
17. I am not
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

I just wanted to post á rattler. I lived in thé States for over á year and loved it because i was young, healthy and had a great job. I am thinking about all my friends that do not have that chance anymore

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
25. I really hope so
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jan 2018

My friends, knowing i lived in Tennessee, where shocked to thé fact i predicted thé outcome of the election. I Aldo predicted that, if they us survives that orange chunk of asshole, it would be á healthy exercise for thé us and thé world.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. Its common sense.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jan 2018

The Soviets were coming from the east. No Americans and they would have went all the way to the shores of Normandy.

If I were Stalin, I would have done it.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. Actually, I wish the EU would become a federal republic.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jan 2018

Establish a EU army, navy, etc, etc.

That way we could withdraw all of our troops and bases from continental Europe. Withdraw from NATO as well. Save billions and spend it on better healthcare and education here in the US.

Britain would be enough of an outpost for us.

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
22. Please do
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe Europa can then show thé world that Common understanding is thé key to peace, and not sabre rattling or dick shows.... Or á country that elected An infant.

Response to roamer65 (Reply #23)

Kogaratsu72

(53 posts)
29. Not at all
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jan 2018

Thé United States is Founded in thé belief to be á union. Europa is á Union today, even more so since that orange apehole was elected. We squabble absolutely, about thé name of a cheese or á ham 😂 but never about who we are.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. The US was a confederation like the EU until after our civil war from 1861-1865.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

In 1865, we became a full federal republic when the Northern states’ philosophy of political union became the dominant one.

Eventually there will be a precipitating moment where the EU decides to make a similar shift.

mahina

(17,649 posts)
39. How are elections funded in your country?
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jan 2018

While you're still with us, I'm curious.

There is more to the US than our recent crisis, just as I wouldn't assume that the worst of your country defines you.

Here's one example:

http://www.aeinstein.org

The mission of the Albert Einstein Institution is to advance the worldwide study and strategic use of nonviolent action in conflict.

The Institution is committed to:

· defending democratic freedoms and institutions;

· opposing oppression, dictatorship, and genocide; and

· reducing the reliance on violence as an instrument of policy.

This mission is pursued in three ways, by:

· encouraging research and policy studies on the methods of nonviolent action and their past use in diverse conflicts;

· sharing the results of this research with the public through publications, conferences, and the media; and

· consulting with groups in conflict about the strategic potential of nonviolent action.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
24. Well America has some problems - gaping wounds - but it's home for me, so i wish it well.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jan 2018

And do what i can to make it better - or at least less awful.

Low post count . . . wonder if . . . . nah couldn't be.

Bryant

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
30. healthcare is not socialism
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jan 2018

it’s an earned benefit like social security and Medicare. Hospitals and doctors are not government employees, they are private. Canada, Switzerland, Australia, UK are not socialist countries.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
48. The US prison industrial complex is absolutely the worst, and a scourge
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jan 2018

we must correct.

National Geographic has become more conservative since the Society and TV Channel were purchased by Rupert Murdock in 2015. He's the Right Wing Conservative, Australian billionaire Media Mogul who owns News Corp- the Fox TV Empire, and many other news outlets.

The US has major systemic problems now, and an embarrassing and potentially dangerous President and Republican governance we're well are of. We know it is very disturbing, like the rest of the world realizes and sees.

However, millions of us are working very hard to make changes to the situations and difficulties we face.

So please lighten up!

I've traveled to many European countries, lived in England and have much appreciation for the varied cultures and political systems.
My father was also there during WWII working hard to fight Nazis so there's that.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/14/how-fox-ate-national-geographic

UnTied

(58 posts)
33. Our problems are fixable, BUT...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:18 PM
Jan 2018

...It won't happen in Washington. Our problems have become systemic, cellular. If we start locally and only elect progressive folks who know the only way to get re-elected is to do the bidding of the people. Primary them if they don't. Let them work up to the state and national levels, change election laws, especially where money is concerned. To say GAME OVER is quitter's talk.
I helped start (with another woman) a campaign to end fracking in Colorado - two of us. I did the computer work, as I was bedridden, she did the legwork. We built a base of volunteers who worked tirelessly for their children' futures.We ended up with twice the required signatures to get a ballot initiative. Then they knocked on doors for a year up until the morning of the election. We face hundreds of thousands of dollars from Big Oil and beat the pants of of them.
So never say is over. I have witnessed the power of positive thinking. We have some things worth crying over. The loss of the VRA. The packing of judges all the way up to SCOTUS. Unlimited money buying politicians. But when we have had our cleansing cry, it's time to standup and decide to be the solution. We cannot wait for some "smart people" to fix this - - because WE ARE THOSE SMART PEOPLE.
Nuff said. Let's get to work. Call you legislators and tell them what pisses you off and get yourself registered, register others, and get involved locally.
Peace Out!

UnTied

(58 posts)
46. Yes!
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:03 PM
Jan 2018

There is hope. So long as there are a handful of people who are awakened, they can work to awaken the rest. Once the truth is seen, it cannot easily be unseen.

UnTied

(58 posts)
45. No. Thank you
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jan 2018

I am so f-ing passionate about this. I am pissed that the DEMS are still bickering about '16. We need leadership!
Thanks for your reply. It bolsters my hope!

Jspur

(578 posts)
44. I understand your
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jan 2018

frustration with the socialism bs the conservatives spin when it comes to universal healthcare. Keep in mind that this crap propaganda won't work forever. It only works on older generations that was born before 1980 . Anybody born after that date has no memory of the Soviet Union and thus the scare tactics doesn't work. In the next 20-30 years when the older generations die out that's when you will start to see radical change in America.

mahina

(17,649 posts)
47. Right! To young people, the face of socialism is Bernie Sanders, not some ancient Russian.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:22 PM
Jan 2018

For that, I do thank the wingers. Who would have thought?

Jspur

(578 posts)
50. Agreed I'm one of the
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jan 2018

older Millennials in my 30's and when I talk to people in my age range and even younger nobody knows about socialism. Most don't even know about communism since when they were growing up the Soviet Union did not exist and the media didn't really hype up China being a communist nation or a threat. This is why I laugh when conservative idiots scream communism or socialism at issues such as universal healthcare, progressive taxation. Like you said young people only know of Bernie Sanders when it comes to the issue of socialism.

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
49. There is much wrong with America, I agree. But there is so much more right with America.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

This past election was a unmitigated disaster. It's allowed the Nationalists to have a front seat in determining our future. But there is a strong resistance to their efforts and plans. We will take back our country.

As far as incarceration is concerned, I couldn't agree more. Our prison system is being privatized. Therefore they need to keep the prisons full to make money. it's a terrible situation.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
52. yes, very sick
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jan 2018

I hope not beyond repair...

It seems a number of people here (DU) have a great need to defend (the almost indefensible)... although, I don't think it is the people on DU that you need to remind to wake up and resist... the United States has a very large part of its population that needs to wake up and it is our job to nudge them and encourage them to join the resistance

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