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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:26 PM Jan 2018

Conspirator Graham lies about Steele on MTP




"I don't think an informant for the FBI should take a product and be shopping it to journalists around the world" -- @LindseyGrahamSC tells me re: Steele dossier on #MTP

Steele was not an informant for the FBI. He was not paid by them.
He did not shop his reports to journalists. He gave his reports to FBI when he thought a crime was being committed.

Threatening a witness? by referring him to DOJ for criminal activity.
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Conspirator Graham lies about Steele on MTP (Original Post) deminks Jan 2018 OP
K&R 2naSalit Jan 2018 #1
Or some other preferred position. BSdetect Jan 2018 #15
Trump has Graham over a barrel. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #2
Must be. Ligyron Jan 2018 #3
Or Graham took money from Russia too and is trying to save himself. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #5
It seems that way TEB Jan 2018 #26
Cannot imagine that. McCain's cancer is killing off every decent Republican in DC. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2018 #28
I think most of GOP leadership, CrispyQ Jan 2018 #11
It is getting to the point that nothing would surprise me. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #32
Any surprise that the goppers have been trying to reduce the IRS workforce erronis Jan 2018 #37
The US treasury only exists for their personal use. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #38
Or some other preferred position. BSdetect Jan 2018 #16
Nah, Huckleberry wants to be Sec of State KelleyKramer Jan 2018 #33
He Gave It To McCain Me. Jan 2018 #4
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #9
He didn't give it to McCain JonLP24 Jan 2018 #19
While What You Write About The McCain/Sir Andrew Meeting Is Correct Me. Jan 2018 #23
Thanks JonLP24 Jan 2018 #24
Welcome Me. Jan 2018 #25
Talk about changing the Narrative Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #6
So what was it, Senator Graham? A payoff or blackmail... Raster Jan 2018 #7
I'd like to see a fine-grained audit of cash flows to all of the critters that get a gov't salary erronis Jan 2018 #18
crypto currencies would DETRACT from traceability... Raster Jan 2018 #36
Graham backed up Mueller's trump investigation more than once. Which is fishy since lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #8
trump has lindsey by the nads. spanone Jan 2018 #10
Didnt he give a copy to McCain? Or how did McCain get his? Roland99 Jan 2018 #12
He gave it to the FBI in July/August 2016. deminks Jan 2018 #17
Thanks Roland99 Jan 2018 #20
He's desperately trying to play both sides from what I saw of that interview. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #13
Lindsey's good bud McCain must be a pawn ... GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #14
He gave it to the FBI but grew frustrated with them he did give it to the media JonLP24 Jan 2018 #21
What a crock of B.S. humbled_opinion Jan 2018 #22
Nothing would make me happier than to see Conspirator Lindsey Graham removed from office. democratisphere Jan 2018 #27
Me too! burrowowl Jan 2018 #34
Whatever they have on Graham must be huuuuge. I have never seen anyone doc03 Jan 2018 #29
That's the push eight now. rockfordfile Jan 2018 #30
Live boy or dead girl? Raster Jan 2018 #35
remember when dotard gave out Lindsay's phone number demtenjeep Jan 2018 #31

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
11. I think most of GOP leadership,
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:03 PM
Jan 2018

pence/mcconnell/ryan, are involved in the Russian thing, so the closer Mueller gets to Trump, the closer he gets to them, but Graham I think has been blackmailed. It just feels different with him. But what do I know? It could be anything with these craven characters.

Irish_Dem

(47,016 posts)
32. It is getting to the point that nothing would surprise me.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:20 PM
Jan 2018

They are corrupt, money and power hungry.
Seems they would go to any length to achieve their goals.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
37. Any surprise that the goppers have been trying to reduce the IRS workforce
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 11:02 AM
Jan 2018

Just while they are snorting all that illicit cash from donors - here and abroad...?

Of course they don't mind shafting the US taxpayers for future amounts due since they want gov't eliminated and they are "Representative" of only their moneybags.

Irish_Dem

(47,016 posts)
38. The US treasury only exists for their personal use.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jan 2018

The American people are nothing but a nuisance to them.

KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
33. Nah, Huckleberry wants to be Sec of State
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 12:04 AM
Jan 2018

As soon as Rex is gone Graham really wants that post. IMHO that's where all the public brown nosing is coming from. It's extremely easy to punk Trump

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. He didn't give it to McCain
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018

He did speak to the media after the FBI. He isn't an informant so there is nothing wrong with that.

It was against this background that Senator John McCain, who had been hearing with growing alarm reports about Mr Trump and the Kremlin, met Sir Andrew Wood (a former British ambassador to Moscow, who had spent 10 years in Russia and is highly respected for his knowledge of Russian affairs) at a security conference in Halifax, Canada.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-file-investigation-hacking-christopher-steele-mi6-a7526901.html

This was in December. Steele spoke to reporters in October.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
23. While What You Write About The McCain/Sir Andrew Meeting Is Correct
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jan 2018

It is not quite the entirety of it.

“McCain and Kramer listened with a growing attentiveness to Sir Andrew’s summary of what was purportedly in these reports—and the two men came to realize they had to see them with their own eyes. Kramer, the good soldier, volunteered to retrieve them.

On an evening about a week later, using a ticket purchased with miles from his own account, Kramer flew out of Washington and landed early the next morning at Heathrow. Once on the ground, as per stern instructions, he operated on Moscow Rules. Told to meet a man loitering outside baggage claim holding a copy of the Financial Times, Kramer engaged in an exchange of word code. At last satisfied, Christopher Steele whisked him off in a Land Rover to the security of his house in Surrey.

They talked for hours. And Steele passed him his report. Was this the identical, somewhat sputtering 35-page memo that had already been making the rounds among reporters? Or, as some intelligence analysts believe, was it a longer, more expertly crafted and sourced document, the final work product of a well-trained M.I.6 senior deskman? Neither McCain nor Kramer would comment, but what is known is that Kramer flew back to Washington that same night, guarding his hard-won prize with his life.

On December 9, McCain sat in the office of F.B.I. director James Comey and, with no other aides present, handed him the typed pages that could bring about the downfall of a president. Afterward, the senator would issue a statement that amounted to little more than a hapless shrug, and a disingenuous one to boot: he had been “unable to make a judgment about their accuracy” and so he’d simply passed them on.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. Thanks
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

All I came across was Kramer on the McCain part. I heard it floated around DC and media circles which I figured is how McCain come across it.

This is more in-depth thanks.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
18. I'd like to see a fine-grained audit of cash flows to all of the critters that get a gov't salary
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

And yet live their lives like they are multi-millionaires.

There's a lot of money ($s/roubles/etc.) flowing in that will not show paycheck tax deductions.

Just a simple side question: If payments are made in one of the crypto-currencies, would that enhance or detract from traceability?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
36. crypto currencies would DETRACT from traceability...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jan 2018

...and I believe, you are asking the correct questions... i.e, "How did Bob Corker come to Congress with massive debt, and is now worth millions?", and he's not the only one.

I strongly believe members of the Congressional GOP are awash in Russian dark money, coming both from "legitimate" SuperPacs and also not-so-legitimate slush funds. Further, I think some of the Congressional GOP has been involved in some of the same type of money laundering that has kept tRump* flush: selling and reselling overpriced real estate and also involvement in shady business development deals, i.e., tRump* Tower Bumfucked Egypt or, in the case of Devin Nunes*, Russian money in his "wine business."

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
8. Graham backed up Mueller's trump investigation more than once. Which is fishy since
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

Graham took Russian mobster money. Also said I don't think he's (trump) crazy.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. He gave it to the FBI but grew frustrated with them he did give it to the media
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jan 2018

How else would David Corn report on it without a source?

By late July and early August, MI6 was also receiving information about Mr Trump. By September, information to the FBI began to grow in volume: Mr Steele compiled a set of his memos into one document and passed it to his contacts at the FBI.

But there seemed to be little progress in a proper inquiry into Mr Trump. The Bureau, instead, seemed to be devoting their resources in the pursuit of Hillary Clinton’s email transgressions.

The New York office, in particular, appeared to be on a crusade against Ms Clinton. Some of its agents had a long working relationship with Rudy Giuliani – by then a member of the Trump campaign – since his days as public prosecutor and then-Mayor of the city.

As the election approached, FBI director James Comey made public his bombshell letter saying that Ms Clinton would face another email investigation. Two days before that, Mr Giuliani, then a part of the Trump team, talked about “a surprise or two you’re going to hear about in the next few days”.

(Snip)

In October a frustrated and demoralised Mr Steele, while on a trip to New York, spoke about what he has discovered to David Corn, the Washington editor of magazine Mother Jones. There was a little flurry of interest that quickly died down.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-file-investigation-hacking-christopher-steele-mi6-a7526901.html

There is nothing wrong with what Steele did.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
22. What a crock of B.S.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jan 2018

They will do anything to set up this fake conspiracy that the FBI's Peter Strzok text about the insurance policy was this particular dossier. Logic eludes these idiots on the right, an insurance policy would have meant that it was put out in the media prior to election day so that it would have had an impact and that was never the case.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
29. Whatever they have on Graham must be huuuuge. I have never seen anyone
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jan 2018

do a 180 that quick. That goes for Hatch too.

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