Now the laziest president ever---Trump's day starts at 11 AM.

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[tblue37]

1. And he is in bed with his cheeseburgers by 6:30 p.m. nt

[Nictuku]

36. That is 7.5 hours....

... minus 1-2 hours for lunch?

So we are getting maybe 6 working hours from the most powerful and important political figure in the world?

FAKE pRESIDENT!!

[tblue37]

50. I just read that it is 6:00 now, and sometimes he knocks off at 4:00.

Furthermore, after his 11:00 meeting he takes an hour for lunch, followed by an hour or more of phone/TV time (which they call "Executive time&quot .

He is spending, at most, 2 or 3 hours a day in "meetings."

[Nictuku]

51. This is disgusting

... I get up at freaking 3 am to get to work by 6 am (I have a 2 hour commute from hell), then I work a 9 hour work day (I have a compressed schedule that gives me every other Friday off because of it) and the 2 hour commute home.

That is 13 freaking hours every weekday that I give of myself for my job.

Sometimes you just gotta do what you have to do. The bills have to be paid.

I doubt that Trump has ever made any kind of sacrifice that even comes close.

[FakeNoose]

55. Just keep him away from the nuke button

That's all we need to ask. The Blue Tsunami of 2018 will take care of the rest.

[milestogo]

79. Not getting out of bed in the morning is a symptom of depression.

[tblue37]

80. But he is awake and tweeting, not just sleeping. nt

[rollin74]

90. either that or hes just a LOW ENERGY looooser

[Sneederbunk]

2. Not fit for the job in so many ways.

[Scarsdale]

83. It likely takes 3 hours

each morning to "fix" his hair and spray tan. Also, Hope has to get down on her knees and steam the wrinkles out of his suit. After all that pampering he still looks like HELL.

[RockCreek]

3. Good retirement community schedule n/t

[D_Master81]

19. well

he does golf alot, watch fox news and spend a lot of time in FL. Maybe we didnt realize he was retired and doing the presidency as a side hobby.

[erronis]

86. I wish he'd find another hobby! Shufflebored? Ogling babes on the beach? Reading?

A man of his stable genius should be able to do crosswords at least. Maybe his aides can read the clues and make suggestions for 3-letter word that means lava in hawaiian (cute - there are three a's in hawaiian, mr. resident.)

[Different Drummer]

4. Axios refers to it as...

"'Executive Time', which is used for TV, tweeting and phone calls."

[PJMcK]

5. There are so many morning shows to watch!

Give the guy a break. If he doesn't watch all the Fox shows, how will he know what to think that day?

[underpants]

7. Well Hoda IS moving to the regular 7 am Today Show

Just saying.

[PJMcK]

10. NBC equals FAKE NEWS

Geez, underpants! Don't you know that?!

[underpants]

11. Yes but he watches all of it

[PJMcK]

13. That's Anderson Cooper on CNN!

But, let me say, I like the image of the burgers and fries in bed!

What a rage-filled piece of shit is Trump.

[underpants]

14. .

Artwork from the Wolff excerpt on NY Mag

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html

[JonLP24]

6. The less he does the less damage he does

We all saw the first 100 days with that travel ban mess.

[wishstar]

8. But he considers all those hours of Fox & Friends as vital hard work

He relies more on Fox propaganda than he does on briefings by knowledgeable government officials and informational meetings with experts.

[Kirk Lover]

40. Yes he considers that research and he's getting briefed.

[underpants]

9. No one works harder. NO ONE.

[MFM008]

12. If Obama slept till noon

And went to bed at 7pm. He would still get more done...

[BigmanPigman]

15. He NEVER wanted the JOB! We all knew that.

It was a publicity stunt and an ego boosting charade. He never wanted the hard work or responsibility. A 6 year old could see that, it didn't take a new book to tell us what we already knew. In fact he even said he didn't realize it would be so hard only a few months into his term.

[NightWatcher]

20. I wish he'd realize he can quit anytime and go home.

[BigmanPigman]

22. I had a dream about that last night, really!!!!! That's funny timing.

I dreamt that he decided before the inauguration that it was not what he wanted but in my dream Pence took over and not Hilary. I guess it should really be called a nightmare instead of a dream now that I think of it.

[dawg day]

33. But my idiot Trump voter friends still don't see it.

It's not just that they still love him. They deal with every single revelation with a "but Hillary!" response, and then some lie. But Hillary never worked either! But Hillary didn't show her tax returns! Always a lie, but they don't care. I don't know why they don't just say, nananaheyhey, why they even bother to lie.

Then there's one "friend" who posted his "big button" tweet with all this ha, ha, isn't he funny, i just couldn't stop laughing. And she got furious when commenters said, "But that's not funny." She said he is the most entertaining president ever, and this is why she voted for him.

It's impossible to deal with that. If she wasn't my boss, I would have posted, "You're dead to me." But I have to work for her, eek.

[Kirk Lover]

41. One day they will have NO CHOICE but to see it. n/t

[BigmanPigman]

44. I just went to You Tube to watch the CNN Tapper interview with Miller

and started reading the comments. I am scared to death right now! Half of them were by people like the one you wrote about. I had to stop myself from reading any more since it is too upsetting to read how people really believe that CNN is fake news and Miller "put Tapper in his place". It was as if we weren't even watching the same video clip.

WE HAVE TO WIN THE MIDTERMS! This is too scary and dangerous!

[lpbk2713]

16. Trump is the biggest deadbeat to ever occupy the White House.

On the campaign trail in 2016, Trump had promised, “I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to play golf.”


Link: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-properties-golf-obama-florida-new-jersey-christmas-760472

[bdamomma]

17. He is such a liar

doesn't that get tiring doing that all the time???? Hope it pushes him over the edge.

[Different Drummer]

18. He said he wouldn't have time to play golf.

We all know how true that statement turned out to be, don't we?

[Ms. Toad]

21. The time a workday starts has ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with laziness.

Please do not equate being a night-owl with being lazy. The world is designed around people who wake at the crack of dawn, or earlier, and there is a broad perception that anyone whose body-clock is not aligned with the way, struggles to arrive on time and alert for a job that starts at 1 AM is lazy - no matter what the reality.

My workday starts between 11 and 12 and ends between midnight and 4 AM. Seven days a week. There's not a lazy bone in my body.

FWIW, I spent 11 years at a job that required me to arrive and be functional before 7 AM. It was torture - but I was never late, or non-functional. The same cannot typically be said for early birds who are forced to be functional after 9 PM. Yet it is night owls who are denigrated.

(I'm NOT arguing that Trump is not lazy - fewer meetings, more golf days, fewer hours in the office would all suggest laziness. NONE of them have anything to do with the time of day he first sets foot in the office each day.)

[JonLP24]

23. I agree

I had to flip from night and day constantly in Kuwait which is 10 hours ahead of where I live on top of that. After I broke my hand worked night shift only though my company would still force me to do stuff in the daytime working or being awake 24 hours more times than I can count. My body clock is all over the place what you say is similar to my experience.

[Kingofalldems]

24. He signed up for the job and for working with people

who work normal hours. Not gonna fly.

[Ms. Toad]

27. My post had nothing to do with when he should start his work day.

It was a response to the assertion that starting the day at 11 AM makes one the laziest anything.

The time one starts the work day has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whether one is lazy or not.

[Kingofalldems]

28. Never made that assertion. Assumed DUers would realize

the White House has a normal work day. Not really a good try there.

[Ms. Toad]

30. Read your title. n/t

[Kingofalldems]

35. Just read it.

WH staffers report in the morning. Has nothing to do with you or anyone who works a different shift. It has to do with Donald Trump, the laziest president ever.

[Jim Lane]

73. Ms. Toad is still right -- the 11:00 a.m. thing is irrelevant

Some workplaces have "core time" -- everyone must be in the office between, say, 11:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. Other than that, people can set their own schedules. The dayflies can arrive at sunrise and leave at 3:00. We night owls can make (perhaps just barely make) the 11:00 start time and stay into the evening.

The "people who work normal hours" should be expected to make some accommodation to the President of the United States. If some extractive-industry types want to lobby for the repeal of another environmental protection, I'm sure they'll be glad to meet with the President at 8:00 p.m. if that's when he can see them.

Also, the President has global responsibilities. Normal hours in DC aren't the same as in California, let alone the Eastern Hemisphere.

The basic point is that we can't call Trump lazy just because he starts his day at 11:00. He's lazy because he doesn't do much work.

[Kingofalldems]

26. Since I didn't refer to you I don't get your post.

[Ms. Toad]

29. You equated starting the day at 11 with being the laziest president.

"Now the laziest president ever---Trump's day starts at 11 AM."

It would be like saying:

"Now the most evil president ever---Trump is left handed"

or, perhaps even clearer:

"Now the president who loves watermelon most---Obama is black"

There is a derogatory stereotypical connection between being a night-owl and being lazy, as there is between being evil and being left-handed, or being black and loving watermelon.

The two are completely unrelated - and as a frequent target of the night owl stereotype - I find it offensive.

[Kingofalldems]

37. Well there are avenues you can use if you find my post offensive.

I find your accusation offensive, by the way.

[Ms. Toad]

67. One of those avenues is to point out the stereotyping you engaged in,

and ask you to think about what you have said.

As I do in other circumstances, as well.

When you equate starting a day at a time other than the crack of dawn with being lazy, it perpetuates an offensive stereotype - one that has been directed at me all of my life.

[LuckyCharms]

38. I think his point is that...

The hours that Trump actually works are not what is required for his position. He gets up late, and he crawls into his fleapit early. That indicates either laziness or an inability to recognize what is required to do the job.

[Ms. Toad]

53. And how many times have you been directly or indirectly called lazy

because of when your day starts? I was responding to the caption, which directly linked the time Trump starts his day with being the laziest president ever.

Unless you are a night owl, you probably are not aware of how strong (and offensive) the stereotype is.

[LuckyCharms]

56. You know what time he gets up, and what time he goes to bed.

Knowing this, and knowing the gravity of his position, how would you describe these traits?

[Ms. Toad]

63. That is not what the title I responded to said.

It directly equated starting his day at 11 with being the laziest president ever.

As I said - I'm not challenging whether he is lazy. I specifically indicated there were quite a number of characteristics that suggested he is lazy, and I have absolutely no objection to characterizing him as lazy based on things that actually indicate he is lazy (like how much time he spends golfing, or how many hours he actually works).

What has ZERO relationship to laziness, however, is what time his day starts.

[Kirk Lover]

43. Really...... you're offended over this? n/t

[JI7]

47. Some posters get offended at attacks on trump

[Ms. Toad]

59. Yes - I am tired of having my body clock

being equated with laziness.

I accept that I have to work around things not being open at the hours when I am most functional - just as winter holiday breaks are planned to accommodate the majority population. But associating it with laziness is offensive. I accept that for most of my working life, I have had to live with being chronically exhausted - because most work hours don't accommodate people who cannot be well rested if awakened before 10 AM.

But it is offensive to be called lazy - as I am directly and indirectly called on a near-daily basis - merely because my body clock is different than the majority of the population.

It is offensive in the same manner that it is offensive to associate (as examples) being left-handed is with being sinister, being bisexual with wanting to bed anything that moves, or being black with being less ambitious.

[JI7]

60. Its not about you but you probably know that and you are actually upset with attacks on trump

[Ms. Toad]

64. That is like saying to a black person offended about a stereotype used against Obama

- stop complaining. It's not about you, it's about Obama.

Stereotypes are harmful against everyone in the targeted population, not just the specific person targeted.

[JI7]

65. Lol. Lame comparison. I start work many days much later than 11am and its bs to compare

The op attacking trump on this to racism.

[Ms. Toad]

68. The OP was attacking Trump using a negative stereotype.

It is no different.

If he is lazy, he is lazy - it has nothing to do with when his day starts.

[JI7]

69. Considering his job it is s sign of laziness. The OP said laziest president

Not laziest worker .

[femmedem]

71. I'm a morning person and I agree with you.

My niece has always been a night owl--as a kid, she'd sleep in hours later than the adults even on Christmas morning--but she's never been lazy.

I don't understand why anyone is having trouble understanding your point.

[loyalsister]

75. Funny you mention handedness

We have had a disproportionate number of left handed presidents. From Nixon to Trump, it's the right handed presidents who have been corrupt (Nixon, W, and Trump). The only right handed president since Nixon who wasn't is Jimmy Carter. Not all of the lefties have been great, but the best in my lifetime (Clinton and Obama) have been.

[spooky3]

32. I agree with you. Nt

[JI7]

34. It's clear the OP is referring to a specific situation

[Kingofalldems]

39. Exactly. The specific situation is--

Trump is the laziest president ever.

[demmiblue]

78. I know, right?!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

62. Thank you.

Morning people have an unkind tendency to think they are superior to night owls. Not true at all. We have different internal schedules.

I'm a night owl, always have been, still am at age 69. We all need to be grateful that there are those who thrive on different wake/work/sleep schedules.

Of course, Donald the Trump's laziness is, in reality, utterly unconnected to the hours he puts in. If he woke up at 6am and made it to the Oval Office at 7, he'd still be knocking off after five, maybe six hours, then spend the afternoon on the golf course.

He, like so many others at the top, haven't a clue what a full day's work really entails.

As for me, most of my life I worked shift work, and when I had to be at work at 6am it was awful, although I did it. Of course, by the time I got to work I'd been up for an hour or more and had a cup of coffee, so by then I was perky and cheerful. I was an airline ticket agent, and it was quite gratifying to be perky and cheerful to passengers who'd just crawled out of bed 30 minutes earlier, weren't quite awake yet, but didn't dare snap at the perky and cheerful young thing so early in the morning.

Anyway, the real issue is the laziness and how little time he spends working, not so much what time he finally slithers into the Oval Office.

[JI7]

66. Trump isn't a night owl.

[Ms. Toad]

88. Thanks.

That point is flying over the heads of the others in this thread, one of whom has accused me of being upset that Trump is being attacked.

[Kingofalldems]

93. Looks like Trump works about 2 hrs. a day

and my conclusion was totally correct, laziest president in history.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/08/allow-us-to-figure-out-just-how-much-of-your-life-is-spent-on-trumps-executive-time/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.62e4e652a439

[Ms. Toad]

95. I wasn't disagreeing with your conclusion.

Only that you were linking being lazy to starting work at 11 AM.

[steve2470]

85. if he started work at 11 AM and worked until 11 PM at night...

I would say, ok, he's devoting at least 60 hours a week to his job. There is no way in hell he is spending 60 productive hours on the job.

Therefore, I'd say 11 AM start time is very indicative of laziness IN HIS CASE, not the typical hard-working night owl or late night person.

[Takket]

25. In the real world there is a word for people who work 11 to 6

Fired

[Raine]

31. Raygun's hours were from about 7:30am - 6:30pm

Trump can't even keep up with Raygun!

[underpants]

52. W's White House was 8-5 so people had "family time"

Which is nice. For the young operative types (who quickly found out their research wasn't needed) it was PARTY TIME.....then 9/11 happened and they went into normal White House hours which are 6/7 until whenever

[Kaleva]

42. Probably has to ride a golf cart from his residence to the Oval office.

Uses the service elevator which is big enough to fit a golf cart in.

[thegoose]

45. And his enormous orange ass...

[VMA131Marine]

46. We are heading for the Weekend at Bernie's scenario

They'll prop him up to wave off the balcony once in a while.

[onethatcares]

48. no, no, no

they'll prop him up on video screens in the press briefing room and have sarah whatever point to how busy he is.

Oh, they already did that?????

My bad.

[Angry Dragon]

49. Nothing happens in the World before noon

[Takket]

54. but drumpf kept tellnig us hillary was too sick to take the 3AM call

[keithbvadu2]

57. Dotard will already be awake at 3:00 am but too busy tweeting to answer the phone.

Dotard will already be awake at 3:00 am but too busy tweeting to answer the phone.

[BeyondGeography]

58. No STAM-in-nuh

[dalton99a]

89. +1

[keithbvadu2]

61. There was some meme several months ago that Donald would have to go to some remedial activity or the

There was some meme several months ago that Donald would have to go to some remedial activity or therapeutic...

Can't remember the exact wording.

[Sneederbunk]

70. Takes several hours for his genius to stabilize.

[melman]

72. I don't know

He seems to start tweet-storming a lot earlier than that.

[CentralMass]

74. Low energy. Sad

[donkeypoofed]

76. He's too busy watching Fox to start work any earlier!

Since he's up and tweeting by 6am most days, I don't term him as lazy. He just needs to fill up his ass kissing cup with fox and stupid friends before he can do anything else. Then it would take him awhile to strip his own bed, get dressed, gather up what's left of his hair, comb.it over, spray on some freezing spray, put in a few discreetly placed bobby pins, brush his dentures,and get his rather fat ass down to the office. I think that doing this all by 11 am is not bad ! 😅

[demmiblue]

77. K&R

Trump's days in the Oval Office are relatively short – from around 11am to 6pm, then he's back to the residence. During that time he usually has a meeting or two, but spends a good deal of time making phone calls and watching cable news in the dining room adjoining the Oval. Then he's back to the residence for more phone calls and more TV. Take these random examples from this week's real schedule:

On Tuesday, Trump has his first meeting of the day with Chief of Staff John Kelly at 11am. He then has "Executive Time" for an hour followed by an hour lunch in the private dining room. Then it's another 1 hour 15 minutes of "Executive Time" followed by a 45 minute meeting with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster. Then another 15 minutes of "Executive Time" before Trump takes his last meeting of the day — a 3:45pm meeting with the head of Presidential Personnel Johnny DeStefano — before ending his official day at 4:15pm.

Other days are fairly similar, unless the president is traveling, in which case the days run longer. On Wednesday this week, for example, the president meets at 11am for his intelligence briefing, then has "Executive Time" until a 2pm meeting with the Norwegian Prime Minister. His last official duty: a video recording with Hope Hicks at 4pm.

On Thursday, the president has an especially light schedule: "Policy Time" at 11am, then "Executive Time" at 12pm, then lunch for an hour, then more "Executive Time" from 1:30pm.

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-sneak-peek-a7c58480-bc9e-4580-93c1-6358a6102b93.html?chunk=0&utm_term=emshare#story0

[Cha]

81. President Obama was up early

and had a work-out before starting his job as POTUS. He took his job seriously as leader of the free world.

Then there's the fucking stable genius.. starts shoveling the shite at 11am.

[Kingofalldems]

82. Check this out:

Lots of 'Executive Time'.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141955518

[Cha]

94. I know.. he's a LAZY ASS

King

[steve2470]

84. and Santorum and Heye on CNN are defending this!

Jeebus Santorum would be ripping President Obama for doing the same. What a f*****G hypocrite.

[SWBTATTReg]

87. maybe we as Americans need to start grading our exec. branch and/ legislators on their work ethics?

No wonder Congress and the executive branch has the lowest approval ratings seen in a while.

Doesn't seem to be a work ethic other than running off the mouth.

I don't know how in particular, but it seems rather sad that in all of last year, 1 major law (tax cut law) was passed and lots of rollbacks on prior administration actions occurred...I imagine if anyone of us worked where we had only 1 or so things accomplished on our goals, we would be out the door/fired...

[Still In Wisconsin]

91. Hey lay off Donnie Two Scoops- there's a lot of good mid-morning TV to watch!

The poor guy needs his "executive time" after all!

[dalton99a]

92. Hopefully he'll use the executive time productively by ingesting more high-cholesterol

high-saturated-fat food items