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Sen. Feinstein releases Fusion GPS testimony (Original Post) PunkinPi Jan 2018 OP
K&FreankinR MelissaB Jan 2018 #1
Good. We're having more and more wins. Resistance on all fronts. brush Jan 2018 #127
Thank you Deb Jan 2018 #2
Finally, Feinstien does the right thing. tinrobot Jan 2018 #3
Finally a Democratic Leader Grew A Spine! TarponSnook Jan 2018 #69
What's dirty about this? She's one of the good guys, Hortensis Jan 2018 #97
Essentially Stating That We Have Weak Leaders Me. Jan 2018 #111
You've "stated over and over again"? Certainly not here on DU. George II Jan 2018 #112
Well that's not a backhanded insult of Dem leaders at ALL ehrnst Jan 2018 #117
What an OUTRAGEOUS attack of the entire Democratic Party! Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #119
A Democratic leader "grew a spine" and you can't stand it, can you? NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #136
I will give you credit for not saying GREW SOME BALLS Skittles Jan 2018 #141
Had Sen. Feinstein not Released the Fusion GPS testimony then what? TarponSnook Jan 2018 #145
Finally? What's she do yesterday that was wrong? Hortensis Jan 2018 #95
I've disagreed with her in the past, but like I said, she did the right thing today. tinrobot Jan 2018 #104
Yes, we sure can and do. Hortensis Jan 2018 #115
I just finished calling the GOP Senate Judiciary Committee BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #103
Finally, so until today she has done all wrong things? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #118
Oh hell yes. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #4
kicksies blogslut Jan 2018 #5
Finally, a Seantor with real guts louis c Jan 2018 #6
Boldness is our new middle name. C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #7
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #8
Ha! Fuck Chuck Grassley!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #9
ha ha ha ha Chuckie. Go home and cry now little boy trueblue2007 Jan 2018 #40
Thanks, Senator Feinstein! MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
Copy/paste it into a file to read later in case it disappears. shraby Jan 2018 #14
I just saved the pdf to my hard drive. MineralMan Jan 2018 #26
I just hit edit/select all edit/copy and had the whole thing. shraby Jan 2018 #74
AT one point the guy says "one person already killed because of this" Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #120
K&R Flo Mingo Jan 2018 #11
Is the GOP thru FBI, DOJ, CIA gonna Iliyah Jan 2018 #12
It wasn't classified, so FBI, DOJ, CIA can't do much but the GOP can sing for their supper. shraby Jan 2018 #15
You go Sen. Feinstein! You're earning your pay today! shraby Jan 2018 #13
Rachel should be fun tonight ! OnDoutside Jan 2018 #16
She's on it... PunkinPi Jan 2018 #33
Now THAT is something to ponder leftynyc Jan 2018 #43
They get notice but not permission to print ahead of time. She said, "Dems have options." lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #124
Sweet ! Someone other than Papadopoulos obviously..... OnDoutside Jan 2018 #45
Hi, I'm just starting reading about this. Why "obviously" other than Papadopoulos? uppityperson Jan 2018 #133
I bet it was James Woolsey. -eom Mr. Ected Jan 2018 #82
The Aussie diplomat? Roland99 Jan 2018 #86
Interesting how Rachel covered Gravel last night OliverQ Jan 2018 #102
As good as she is, I doubt it. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #106
YES! Pobeka Jan 2018 #17
holy protocol breach!!! I love it.... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #18
k and r and bookmarking. niyad Jan 2018 #19
Yes! workinclasszero Jan 2018 #20
K&R for exposure of the truth meow2u3 Jan 2018 #21
A human source within the Trump campaign! .99center Jan 2018 #22
Hee hee. I wonder who the mole was? SunSeeker Jan 2018 #24
Described as human so that crosses Bannon off the list lunasun Jan 2018 #35
Ouch ! If they said "Whiskey", then it could have been him... OnDoutside Jan 2018 #53
Oh YEAH! SunSeeker Jan 2018 #23
Thank you Diane, for having the courage and initiative to actually do it. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #25
Good thing she didnt just "go away" like some said to Hillary when she wrote a book, eh! Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #121
k&r bigtree Jan 2018 #27
thank you and good move for your reelection AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #28
Video footage of her right after... ehrnst Jan 2018 #29
LOL - perfect (n/t) leftynyc Jan 2018 #46
love this. nt PunkinPi Jan 2018 #75
Perfect! sheshe2 Jan 2018 #90
If a white male does this, they get called a hero. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #122
Rachel was talking about getting this released last night thbobby Jan 2018 #30
Thank you Senator Feinstein get the red out Jan 2018 #31
Maddow hinted at this last night DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #32
Not exactly what she was leftynyc Jan 2018 #48
I think the more relevant point is that it was done. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #60
Her point was that Dems were planning a way around DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #108
The ultimate, senatorial "Time's Up" for IQ45 and the GOP that enables the idiot. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #125
Well done! leftynyc Jan 2018 #139
National security reporter for The Hill says Feinstein apparently procon Jan 2018 #34
Not to mention, she was sitting across from trump while it was released. PunkinPi Jan 2018 #37
Seeing as Grassley and Graham want the DOJ to investigate Steele avebury Jan 2018 #38
This + 100000 bronxiteforever Jan 2018 #42
I think she took 10 or 11 hours of pages from their book 😬😉 MLAA Jan 2018 #80
Feinstein did the same thing they were doing Renew Deal Jan 2018 #99
Another good tweet here RockaFowler Jan 2018 #36
Wow. Don't blame him for cutting ties, but so sad for our country. nt SunSeeker Jan 2018 #44
K&R n/t Glorfindel Jan 2018 #39
Great news malaise Jan 2018 #41
Payback bpj62 Jan 2018 #47
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2018 #49
GIRLFRIEND!!!!! calimary Jan 2018 #50
Expect Chuck "Snake in the" Grassley to have a dour expression these next few weeks ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #51
He has a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #64
That's a really good simile ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #96
Sadly no, that's an oldie but goodie. But it does capture the image. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #105
I'm going to try and remember that one. nt ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #107
KABLOOEY shenmue Jan 2018 #52
Good for her! mcar Jan 2018 #54
Bookmarked - Thanks Senator Feinstein! FakeNoose Jan 2018 #55
I knew somebody would. Turbineguy Jan 2018 #56
She BillyBobBrilliant Jan 2018 #57
Yeah, you nailed it! MLAA Jan 2018 #81
"Nevertheless, she persisted." WheelWalker Jan 2018 #58
. PunkinPi Jan 2018 #59
Yup! B Stieg Jan 2018 #79
it's about time! dawg day Jan 2018 #61
Okay, folks, let's WORK this!!! Here's how: calimary Jan 2018 #68
👍 Great advice. Duppers Jan 2018 #85
Thank Sen. DiFi. Excellent. oasis Jan 2018 #93
Great idea. You should make this an OP. Squinch Jan 2018 #101
Shall do, Squinch! calimary Jan 2018 #132
DONE. I added regional contact info, too, since it's been hard to get through in DC. Here: calimary Jan 2018 #134
Thank you! I am trying to get through. I won't stop till I do. Squinch Jan 2018 #142
Her phone line is busy... PunkinPi Jan 2018 #110
I don't understand the full implications of this move Goodheart Jan 2018 #62
The Republicans didn't want the entire interview released. MineralMan Jan 2018 #67
Thank you. Goodheart Jan 2018 #70
It's an end run around GOP obstruction dawg day Jan 2018 #83
K&R blue-wave Jan 2018 #63
Grassley must have.. chillfactor Jan 2018 #65
OMG! gademocrat7 Jan 2018 #66
High hypocritical dudgeon from Republicans in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 gratuitous Jan 2018 #71
fantastic thanks! certainot Jan 2018 #72
Thank you, Sen. Feinstein dalton99a Jan 2018 #73
Page 8 : it is unclassified interview. kentuck Jan 2018 #76
Interesting factoid on page 46 - talking about William Browder. kentuck Jan 2018 #84
Page 59 - "international businessman" kentuck Jan 2018 #88
Mmmmm. Delicious. progressoid Jan 2018 #89
page 62 - Simpson on his work related to Donald Trump kentuck Jan 2018 #91
Thanks for these synopses... llmart Jan 2018 #113
Pages 143-144 - The hacking by Russia ...interesting kentuck Jan 2018 #114
Page 179 kentuck Jan 2018 #138
K & R L. Coyote Jan 2018 #77
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #78
Thank You, Pi!! Duppers Jan 2018 #87
You're welcome, Duppers. PunkinPi Jan 2018 #100
Thanks, dear. Duppers Jan 2018 #116
It was released 2 hrs before the WH press conference .99center Jan 2018 #92
Thank you Senator Feinsterin. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #94
Excellent peggysue2 Jan 2018 #98
A thousand thanks, Sen. Feinstein. (nt) Paladin Jan 2018 #109
She is a hero. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #123
Thanks for link! burrowowl Jan 2018 #126
Thank you to Senator Feinstein...... Upthevibe Jan 2018 #128
Elizabeth Crosnise McLaughlin's (Resistance Live) twitter roll comments on Fusion testimony pioche4 Jan 2018 #129
The "inside person" is not the Australian either as MSM is pushing triron Jan 2018 #130
Rock on, DiFi! Raster Jan 2018 #131
What's the deal w the Bill Browder stuff? continentalop2 Jan 2018 #135
Trump is a fucking TRAITOR Skittles Jan 2018 #140
I'm too tired (and a little drunk) to read it tonight NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #137
Go DiFi! flibbitygiblets Jan 2018 #143
about time heaven05 Jan 2018 #144
 

TarponSnook

(36 posts)
69. Finally a Democratic Leader Grew A Spine!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

Thank you Sen. Feinstein. More and more leaders need to employ the same GOP tactics of dirty politics! Democratic leaders should not allow the GOP to stifle our freedoms with lies, cover ups, and pressuring the Democratic leaders to be acquiescent / blackmail / bow to their nasty agenda! I have stated over and over the Democrats need a strong leader unafraid of these assholes!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
97. What's dirty about this? She's one of the good guys,
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

not lying as the Republicans constantly do, not cheating and betraying her voters as the Republicans constantly do, not only not bellying up to the trough the Republicans filled with our tax dollars, but of course voting against it along with every other Democrat, including our conservative Democrats.

Republicans on the committee Friday unilaterally made a criminal referral against the messenger of wrongdoing, Christopher Steele, instead of the wrongdoers. She unilaterally released the transcript on behalf of the Democratic senators on the committee.

This is fighting wrong with right.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
117. Well that's not a backhanded insult of Dem leaders at ALL
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

since you started it with "thank you" before damning the rest of the leadership.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
136. A Democratic leader "grew a spine" and you can't stand it, can you?
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:24 AM
Jan 2018

You don't get to bash Democrats. Oh, right--you managed to do it anyway. Good job.

 

TarponSnook

(36 posts)
145. Had Sen. Feinstein not Released the Fusion GPS testimony then what?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jan 2018

The Repugs would continue with their agenda and rail road the country into chaos. Today asshole Sen Rand Paul continued the attacks on Hillary Clinton and Kellyanne Conway both did the same on CNN, Sen. Mitch Mcconnell blocked president Obama from appointing a supreme court justice and threaten Obama with partisan politics thereby facilitating the attack our elections by Putin. The Democrats need to take off the gloves. These republicans have no interest in our country. The republicans are all laughing to the bank. They are committed to their major donors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
95. Finally? What's she do yesterday that was wrong?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jan 2018

I'm guessing you have no clue as to what she did yesterday.

I don't, Tin, so I'll be waiting for your answer. I'll settle for whatever she did wrong the day before if you can't get info for yesterday, though.

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
104. I've disagreed with her in the past, but like I said, she did the right thing today.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jan 2018

I think we can both agree on that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
115. Yes, we sure can and do.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jan 2018

You know, though, there's nothing stupid about saying something good about Democrats without covering that slip with a slap on the backswing.

That's what the media did with Hillary, btw. The "rules" for those who wanted to belong to the in group who get on daytime and much evening cable required everyone to badmouth her. If for some reason someone wanted to mention something that seemed favorable, that person needed to deliver it with a redeeming negative comment, preferably 2 or more, but one had to be the closing remark.

BigmanPigman

(51,644 posts)
103. I just finished calling the GOP Senate Judiciary Committee
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:14 PM
Jan 2018

about releasing the testimony from Simpson. I called Grassely, Hatch, Lee, Graham, Coryn, Lee, Cruz then Sasse. I got voice mails from all until Sasse. I spoke to the staffer and he told me Feinstein just released it! Now I turned on MSNBC and it is all over the news. YEAH! I called every GOP member on the committee on Aug 29th after watching this story on Rachel on Aug 28. Back then they all said they would release it. The Sasse staffer said there are 300 pages!

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. Finally, a Seantor with real guts
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jan 2018

I don't always agree with Senator Feinstein. But I have to admire her courage in this one.

trueblue2007

(17,243 posts)
40. ha ha ha ha Chuckie. Go home and cry now little boy
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

can't we remove Grassley some way? Recall him or impeach him?

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
10. Thanks, Senator Feinstein!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jan 2018

I don't have time to read it, but others will, and will give us information. Information is what we need to make decisions.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
26. I just saved the pdf to my hard drive.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:34 PM
Jan 2018

That's a lot easier than cutting and pasting. I can look at the file at any time with the Adobe Reader, and use it's tools to search for and find things, print pages, etc.

I recommend working with the .pdf file as it exists, rather than converting it into some other format. You'll find that a better way to examine it.

In any windows browser, just right click on the document and select Save As...

shraby

(21,946 posts)
15. It wasn't classified, so FBI, DOJ, CIA can't do much but the GOP can sing for their supper.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jan 2018

They will cry, swear and gnash their teeth over it, loudly. The milk has been spilt.

PunkinPi

(4,882 posts)
33. She's on it...
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018



Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6)
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
43. Now THAT is something to ponder
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

I wonder if Rachel will come up with some suggestions as to who that could be.

lindysalsagal

(20,765 posts)
124. They get notice but not permission to print ahead of time. She said, "Dems have options."
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jan 2018

Well, apparently, they in fact do. Good options.

Plus, not good for your credibility to announce something will happen in the future: never know who's, going to have to delay something.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
17. YES!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jan 2018

Why do I think we are about to hear nothing but silence from the GOP And Faux News on this topic from now on...

getagrip_already

(14,907 posts)
18. holy protocol breach!!! I love it....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jan 2018

Ok, so what happens to Feinstein?

Do the republicans kick all the dems off committees now? I can only imagine Fox's screams of pain and anger!

Great!!!!!

.99center

(1,237 posts)
22. A human source within the Trump campaign!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

Page 174

Q. You said that he told you of the meeting
19 with the FBI in Rome in mid or late September, that
20 he "gave them a full briefing"?

21 A. A debrief I think is what he probably
22 said, they had debriefed him. I don't remember him
23 articulating the specifics of that. You know, my
24 understanding was that they would have gotten into
25 who his sources were, how he knew certain things,
and, you know, other details based on their own intelligence.

Essentially what he told me was they
3 had other intelligence about this matter from an
4 internal Trump campaign source and that -- that
5 they -- my understanding was that they believed
6 Chris at this point -- that they believed Chris's
7 information might be credible because they had
8 other intelligence that indicated the same thing
9 and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human
10 source from inside the Trump organization.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
30. Rachel was talking about getting this released last night
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jan 2018

Hell Yes Senator Feinstein! GOP leaked selected portions for propaganda value. Now, this can be examined objectively! Senator Feinstein, you have done a great service for American Democracy! Thank you!

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
32. Maddow hinted at this last night
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018

She opened her show talking about how former Senator Mike Gravel got 4000 of the 7000 pages of the Pentagon Papers into the record and hinted that Dems might do something similar to get the GPS Fusion testimony into the record. I guess this is what she was talking about.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
48. Not exactly what she was
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jan 2018

talking about. Democrats were in the majority when Gravel (as head of some minor committee) read the Pentagon Papers into the record. Rachel was wondering how Democrats - now in the minority and unable to head a committee, could make this happen. Looks like Difi just said fuck it and released it.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
108. Her point was that Dems were planning a way around
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jan 2018

Grassley et al to get the transcript out. Glad Sen Feinstein did it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
139. Well done!
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:59 AM
Jan 2018

I've never disliked DiFi as much as many DUers. As far as I'm concerned, she truly earned her paycheck AND her Democratic Party credentials today. I'm FAR more interested in what somebody does than what they say.

procon

(15,805 posts)
34. National security reporter for The Hill says Feinstein apparently
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jan 2018

released the document without consulting either the chair Grassley or House Intel Committee.


That's WOMAN POWER in action!

PunkinPi

(4,882 posts)
37. Not to mention, she was sitting across from trump while it was released.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jan 2018

Epic trolling by Feinstein.

avebury

(10,953 posts)
38. Seeing as Grassley and Graham want the DOJ to investigate Steele
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

and made the announcement without consulting their committee, Diane Feinstein just took a page out of their book.


bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
42. This + 100000
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

“It’s clearly another effort to deflect attention from what should be the committee’s top priority: determining whether there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the election and whether there was subsequent obstruction of justice,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, who added that she had not been consulted about the referral by Grassely and Graham

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/us/politics/christopher-steele-dossier-judiciary-committee.html

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
36. Another good tweet here
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jan 2018



Simpson, re: that NYT article published on Oct 31 that said the FBI had found no clear Trump-Russia links: "it was a real Halloween special."

Steele severed his ties to the FBI at that point.
"There was a concern that the FBI was being manipulated...by the Trump people."

bpj62

(999 posts)
47. Payback
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

Senator Feinstein was not notified that Senators Grassley and Graham were going to forward a criminal referral for Christopher Steele to the DOJ. I also believe that the democrats have had it with Grassley and the gloves are off.

calimary

(81,546 posts)
50. GIRLFRIEND!!!!!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:01 PM
Jan 2018

THANK YOU, Dianne!!! Wow. Gal has guts! THIS is the kind of representation we need! Hey, Dems, you listening? You paying attention?

D: For Dianne. D: For Defiance!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
51. Expect Chuck "Snake in the" Grassley to have a dour expression these next few weeks
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:02 PM
Jan 2018

Like he does every other week.

I just hope it was worth the tongue lashing she will probably get.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
55. Bookmarked - Thanks Senator Feinstein!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:04 PM
Jan 2018

This is how real Senators should behave. It's time for Grassley to retire.


dawg day

(7,947 posts)
61. it's about time!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:08 PM
Jan 2018

Democrats need to do this. Just go ahead and perform the duties of oversight and ignore the GOP obstruction.

I would like to see them hold a committee meeting in the halls of the Capitol, at least with willing witnesses, and be damned to the GOP who just want to cover up for Trump.

calimary

(81,546 posts)
68. Okay, folks, let's WORK this!!! Here's how:
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

Call DiFi's office. Either via the usual Congressional (202) numbers OR the TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers in my sig line.

Or look her up online and call one of her regional offices.

TELL HER "THANK YOU!!!" THANK her! Thank her for her courage and willingness to GO BOLD! Tell whatever staffer picks up that this is great and how much you love it and appreciate it and how grateful you are that she showed TRUE guts.

As a parent, I learned that you don't reward or reinforce bad behavior, BUT, you ENCOURAGE more good behavior by rewarding and reinforcing that. We certainly are able to call and complain when they do things of which we don't approve, right? Therefore, when they do something right, they need to hear the "attagirls" and "attaboys" that they've earned. If they get a lot of those, it will encourage them to do more of the same.

Add calcium supplements to their backbones!!! It MATTERS. And it makes a difference, sometimes a BIG difference.

Please never forget this "Golden Rule" of representative democracy: If they think YOU don't care, they won't, EITHER!

PunkinPi

(4,882 posts)
110. Her phone line is busy...
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jan 2018

found an alternate way to contact her (web form), https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/e-mail-me .

Also, she tweeted on the release, and you can send her a note there (for those on Twitter):




Excellent, idea btw calimary!

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
67. The Republicans didn't want the entire interview released.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

They wanted to spoon-feed portions to the public.

Feinstein released the entire transcript publicly. That will not make her popular with others on the committee, but it will air the entire thing out in public.

Analysis of the entire thing can now proceed.

Feinstein did what the committee should have done. Brava!

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
83. It's an end run around GOP obstruction
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

The GOP committee leader (Grassley) has refused to release this testimony-- which he insisted on doing in private rather than public session. The interviewees from Fusion had called for it to be released-- they have nothing to hide.
But Grassley doesn't want the public to know what they testified.

The Democrats on the committee had been pretty passive about this. Until now. Feinstein went ahead and released the testimony in defiance of Grassley.

This gives a good example to other Democrats-- they don't have to sit around and beg the GOP to do the right thing.

Now we'll have to see what revelations come out of the testimony. Pretty soon DUers will be sharing important tidbits, but no one can read and digest all 400 pages right away! That's what's great about crowdsourcing!

chillfactor

(7,585 posts)
65. Grassley must have..
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

filled his pants....LOL! He really thought he could keep this testimony away from the American people...Feinstein one upped him!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
71. High hypocritical dudgeon from Republicans in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jan 2018

Grassley was sitting on this testimony trying to cover the administration's foul-ups, and now it's all for naught. Sorry, Chuck. But I will enjoy your impotent (and probably insincere) raging against this terrible, horrible, very bad, no-good breach of the sacred protocols of the world's greatest deliberative body.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
76. Page 8 : it is unclassified interview.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jan 2018

"This interview is unclassified. So if any
15 question calls for information that you know to be
16 classified, please state that for the record as
17 well as the reason for the classification. Then
18 once you've clarified that to the extent possible,
19 please respond with as much unclassified
20 information as you can. If we need to have a
21 classified session later, that can be arranged. "

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
84. Interesting factoid on page 46 - talking about William Browder.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jan 2018

10 " He also set up shell companies inside of
11 Russia in order to avoid paying taxes in Russia and
12 he set up shell companies in a remote republic
13 called Kalmykia, K-A-L-M-Y-K-I-A, which is next to
14 Mongolia. It's the only Buddhist republic in
15 Russia and there's nothing much there, but if you
16 put your companies there you can lower your taxes.
17 They were putting their companies in Kalmykia that
18 were holding investments from western investors and
19 they were staffing these companies -- they were
20 using Afghan war veterans because there's a tax
21 preference for Afghan war veterans, and what we
22 learned is that they got in trouble for this
23 eventually because one of Putin's primary rules for
24 business was you can do a lot of things, but you've
25 got to pay your taxes."

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
88. Page 59 - "international businessman"
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jan 2018

Q. And then, by extension, when you're
2 talking about an international businessman, I
3 presume you're talking about then candidate now
4 President Trump?
5 A. Yes.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
91. page 62 - Simpson on his work related to Donald Trump
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:39 PM
Jan 2018

"election and you clarified that that was work
2 related to then Candidate and now President Trump.
3 What can you tell us about that work? Can you just
4 describe it first generally and then I'll ask you
5 some follow-up.
6 A. It was, broadly speaking, a kind of
7 holistic examination of Donald Trump's business
8 record and his associations, his bankruptcies, his
9 suppliers, you know, offshore or third-world
10 suppliers of products that he was selling. You
11 know, it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of
12 his relationships to organized crime figures but,
13 you know, really the gamut of Donald Trump. "

Page 67 - excerpt

In the early -- the very first weekend that I
18 started boning up on Donald Trump, you know, I
19 found various references to him having connections
20 to Italian organized crime and later to a Russian
21 organized crime figure named Felix Sater,
22 S-A-T-E-R. It wasn't hard to find, it wasn't any
23 great achievement, it was in the New York Times,
24 but as someone who has done a lot of Russian
25 organized crime investigations as a journalist

llmart

(15,559 posts)
113. Thanks for these synopses...
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jan 2018

Wow! Just Wow! Just these few blurbs are damning to Trump. Can't imagine what's in the entire dossier. Can't wait to read it all.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
114. Pages 143-144 - The hacking by Russia ...interesting
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jan 2018

So the purpose of this was to see if we could
12 learn more, generally speaking, about his business
13 dealings in Russia. What came back was something,
14 you know, very different and obviously more
15 alarming, which had to do with -- you know, which
16 outlined a political conspiracy and a much broader
17 set of issues than the ones that we basically went
18 looking for. You know, initially we didn't know
19 what do with this.
20 The main thing we did with it, the use we
21 made of it was as intelligence, which is to
22 understand what's happening. So when this arrived
23 the first indicators were starting to float around
24 that there was something bigger going on, the
25 government of Russia or someone was doing some
hacking. I don't really remember the precise
2 details. I just remember there were rumblings at
3 that time about whether there had been lot of
4 hacking and there was going to be -- political
5 digital espionage was going to be a component of
6 the campaign.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
138. Page 179
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jan 2018

Sometime thereafter the FBI -- I understand
2 Chris severed his relationship with the FBI out of

3 concern that he didn't know what was happening
4 inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI
5 was being manipulated for political ends by the
6 Trump people and that we didn't really understand
7 what was going on. So he stopped dealing with
8 them.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
87. Thank You, Pi!!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

I'm excited to read this.

THIS is the way we get the Truth and beat the rethugs' impeding justice.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
92. It was released 2 hrs before the WH press conference
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

Why weren't there any questions relating to the transcript?

Are they giving Sarah and the WH time to frame the narrative?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
123. She is a hero.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jan 2018

What is funny about this is, Trump is so dumb and so used to getting his way, he doesnt realize that he is also a major league criminal and traitor.

Upthevibe

(8,088 posts)
128. Thank you to Senator Feinstein......
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jan 2018

you are brave. I think what really pissed her off was when Graham & Grassley threatened to bring some kind of charges against Steele...

pioche4

(114 posts)
129. Elizabeth Crosnise McLaughlin's (Resistance Live) twitter roll comments on Fusion testimony
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:44 PM
Jan 2018
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/950884746082562048.html

1/ First, thanks today for the bravery of @SenFeinstein. You're a heroine of the #Resistance.
2/ As I process the Fusion GPS transcript, I'll post significant points here in individual tweets. For starters: NO, Fusion GPS doesn't do hatchet jobs to try to get government agencies to start investigations against people. (Tr. 25)
3/ As well, Fusion GPS knows WTF it's doing. The descriptions of the investigation in the Prevezon case are deep and powerful and detailed and serious, and they do not mess around. (Tr. 38-49)
4/ Other items of note from the Fusion GPS background: Fusion has a deep background in understanding Russian money laundering. The Prevezon case got the into investigations of Russian organized crime, Cypriot banking, and the tax system in Russia. Serious business. (Tr. 38-49)
5/ On the Fusion GPS retention on Trump: "it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of his relationships to organized crime figures . . ." (Tr. 61-62)
6/ Fusion GPS concluded early in their investigation that Trump has serious ties to Russian organized crime, including money in his companies from "Kazakhstan, among other places, and that some of it you just couldn't account for." (Tr. 67-70)
7/ Fusion GPS hired Steele as a part of "drilling down" on specific areas of concern about Trump's business dealings internationally, and Steele was not the only subcontractor hired. (Tr. 76-78)
8/ Asked about Christopher Steele as an investigator, Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS described him as a "quality" investigator in high profile situations and "a boy scout." (Tr. 81-82)
9/ Fusion sent Steele into Russia with a broad assignment to look into Trump's dealings in Russia. And what they found was that "it wasn't a giant secret" that "Donald Trump had a relationship with the Kremlin." “People were talking about it freely.” (Tr. 87-88)
10/ Now would be a good time to ask yourself why it is that @ChuckGrassley and others didn't want this transcript released. But keep going.
11/ Christopher Steele was trained as the lead Russianist in MI6 to spot disinformation from Russian intelligence. So what he found was not bullshit. What he found was real. (Tr. 88-89)
12/ What is clear in the questioning of Simpson from the Republican side of the fence is that they they were trying to set up a claim that Rinat Akhmetshin, who was present at the Trump Tower June 2016 meeting was an agent of Fusion and thereby HRC. (Tr. 109-110)
13/ This is plainly an attempt to try to claim that any Trump/Russia interactions were a democratic set-up—one that Simpson shot down hard. (Tr. 109-110)
14/ Glenn Simpson had dinner with Vesilnitskaya in New York the night before the Trump Tower meeting. Fusion was doing work on the Prevezon case, and it was a client dinner with the lawyers, of whom Vesiltnitskaya was one. This shit just gets weirder and weirder. (Tr.130-131)
15/ Asked by the Republicans whether he believes the Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 was an effort by the Russian government to make contact with the Trump campaign, Simpson responded "I think that's a reasonable interpretation." (Tr. 134-135)
15/ Fusion sent Steele into Russia to learn more about Trump's business dealings. What they found was "very different and obviously more alarming, which had to do with . . . a political conspiracy . . . the government of Russia or someone was doing some hacking. . .&quot Tr. 133-134)
16/ "there were rumblings at that time about whether there had been lot of hacking and there was going to be -- political digital espionage was going to be a component of the campaign." (Tr. 133-134)
17/ And so they set out to determine if what they were learning was credible. (I mean, Jesus. If he isn't impeached after this, America is toast.)
18/ Fusion evaluated the credibility of the information they received that the Trump campaign may be involved in digital espionage to throw the election. Steele is credible. The methods described are consistent with Russian intelligence. Nothing appears to be false. (Tr. 148-150)
18/ The very first memo within the dossier discusses that Trump and his inner circle accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin. (Tr. 154-155)
19/ In response to a question about election interference, Simpson stated "If you're getting help from a foreign government and your help is intelligence, then the foreign government's interfering," and that the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting is consistent with that. (Tr. 154-155)
20/ Only two memos in to the memos that make up the dossier, Fusion knew that what they were dealing with was a criminal attempt to influence the election, a conspiracy to violate campaign laws, and potentially the blackmailing of the @GOP candidate for President. (Tr. 158-160)
21/ "it's 26 July. So by this time Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been the subject of a very aggressive hacking campaign, weaponized hack, the likes of which, you know, have never really been seen." (Tr. 158)
22/ "We've seen hacking in politics before, but this kind of, you know, mass theft of e-mail and then to dump it all into, you know, the public sphere was extraordinary and it was criminal." (Tr. 158)
23/ "In [Steele's] mind this is already a criminal matter, there's already a potential national security matter here." (Tr. 159)
24/ "Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national security threat and said he wanted to -- he said he thought we were obligated to tell someone in government, in our government about this information." (Tr. 159)
25/ "He thought from his perspective there was an issue -- a security issue about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed.” (Tr. 159)
26/ "From my perspective there was a law enforcement issue about whether there was an illegal conspiracy to violate the campaign laws, and then somewhere in this time the whole issue of hacking has also surfaced." (Tr. 159-160)
27/ So why did they go to the FBI? "[L]et's be clear, this was not considered by me to be part of the work that we were doing. This was -- to me this was like, you know, you're driving to work and you see something happen and you call 911, right.” (Tr. 164)
28/ 25/ It wasn't part of the -- it wasn't like we were trying to figure out who should do it. He said he was professionally obligated to do it. Like if you're a lawyer and, you know, you find out about a crime, in a lot of countries you must report that." (Tr. 164-165; 167-168)
29: "So it was like that. So I just said if that's your obligation, then you should fulfill your obligation." (Tr. 164-165; 167-168)
26/ What we can take from this is that the reporting of the dossier to the FBI was ETHICAL, HONEST, and NOT A HATCHET JOB. (Tr. 164-165; 167-168)
31/ (sorry for the screwy numbering of thread tweets, folks. this is a lot.)
32/ Simpson flagged how serious it got within the Fusion investigation when, post-reporting to the FBI, the hacking of the Democrats continued, the RNC platform as to Ukraine changed, and Trump continued to say bizarrely favorable things about Russia. (Tr. 169-170)
33/ And then Steele went to Rome, and met with the FBI, and gave them everything he had so far on Trump. Simpson says Steele's work was "really serious and really credible," and when he asked to go meet with the FBI and give them everything he had, Fusion said yes. (Tr. 171-172)
34/ And there is no question in the minds of Simpson or Steele that what they are dealing with is criminal espionage, a "crime in progress" by the Russians against the DNC and others. (Tr. 173)
35/ And then Simpson dropped a bomb: Steele went to Rome, gets debriefed by the FBI, and learns in the debriefing that the FBI, in September 2016, has a "voluntary" source inside the Trump campaign. (Tr. 175-176). READ THAT AGAIN.
36/ NOTE: that means this is not Papadopoulos. He was flipped when he lied to the FBI. This was also someone who was NOT also a source for Steele.
37/ @JamesComey sent the letter to the Hill concerning Hillary's emails after Fusion has reported espionage, election interference and the potential compromise of Trump to the FBI. (Tr. 178-179)
38/ Then the @nytimes reported that the FBI looked into Trump/Russia and found nothing. Simpson calls this cluster "a real Halloween special." (Tr. 178-179)
39/ And as a result, Steele stopped cooperating with the FBI. (Tr. 178-179)
40/ The FBI considered paying Steele to continue his work after the election, but did not. So all of this work by Steele was not on behalf of any US intelligence agency. (Tr. 214)
41/ And again, it's worth noting that this was not a hatchet job. No compensation to Fusion was conditioned on the FBI starting an investigation into Trump/Russia. (Tr. 217)
42/ After the election, Fusion was "obviously . . . as surprised as everyone else and Chris and I were mutually concerned about whether the United States had just elected someone who was compromised by a hostile foreign power . . ." (Tr. 219).
43/ " . . . more in my case whether the election had been tainted by an intervention by the Russian intelligence services, and we were, you know, unsure what to do.” (Tr. 219).
44/ They went to John McCain in the hope that McCain would share it with the highest levels of the FBI. (Tr. 219-221)
45/ And then there is this explosive bit: Steele and Simpson weren't sure that @Comey EVEN KNEW ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS. Which would explain a lot. An awful lot. (Tr. 220-221)
46/ Just so there's no mistake about it, Simpson stated: "I was aware at the time (mid-2016) that the Russian mafia and Russian cyber crime was a subcontractor to the Russian intelligence services." (Tr. 233)
47/ Disinformation was a part of Steele's business training at MI6. He did not believe anything given to him that became a part of the dossier was disinformation. (Tr. 239)
48/ Carter Page lost money with the Russians, was really mad about sanctions, and apparently had been an espionage suspect under investigation by the FBI FOR YEARS preceding the election. Jesus. (Tr. 240-242)
49/ And add to that: Fusion had reason to believe that Page had been offered business deals in exchange for being compromised. (Tr. 240-242)
50/ Simpson was a solid witness generally. Asked about claims by SHS that the dossier was phony and Fusion took money from the Russians, he gave a scathing defense of his work and the work of Steele, concluding with he dossier "is not a fabrication." (Tr. 256-257)
51/ And then the really crazy stuff came out. Simpson was handed Manafort's contemporaneous notes from the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting with the Russians. (Tr. 261-264)
52/ In those notes is a reference to a Cypriot holding company to engage in inward investment into Russia, the note "active sponsors of the RNC," Dick Cheney's press secretary, and finally, adoptions. (Tr. 261-264)
53/ But Cypriot holding companies, and "active sponsors of the RNC?" WTAF. There is something so deep and so corrupt here in the @GOP I'm nearly speechless. (Tr. 261-264)
54/ Fusion's conclusions were not influenced by the person paying them for their Trump research. (But Simpson did conclude on a personal level that Trump was unqualified for the job.) (Tr. 290-293)
55/ Fusion concluded that Trump had a long history of engagement in illegal activity with organized crime. (Tr. 293-294)
56/ More evidence of how good Simpson is as a witness. Asked about Fusion's investigations into the Trump Org in NYC, he denies direct criminal evidence of DJT the person being involved in crimes. The Trump Org of whom, of course, DJT is the head, is in deep. (Tr. 295-298)
57/ 49/ This is careful, careful testimony by this witness to preserve his credibility while still making his point, though Fox News will leap all over this as proof that DJT is not a criminal. The prior 295 pages of this transcript prove otherwise. (Tr. 295-298)
58/ Trump's golf courses are broke. (Tr. 299-300)
59/ And lastly, just in case you thought this wasn't as serious as it gets, one of Fusion GPS's sources has already been murdered by the Russians. (Tr. 279)
60/ Ok, people, that’s it. It's a bombshell of a day in America. And if Trump isn’t impeached after this, along with complicit members of the @GOP who have known this and tried to discredit Fusion and Steele and this dossier, there is no hope for our democracy. Period.
61/ @ChuckGrassley @TGowdySC @DevinNunes @Jim_Jordan @LindseyGrahamSC there is jail time in your futures, I suspect. #RESIST /end of thread
 

continentalop2

(29 posts)
135. What's the deal w the Bill Browder stuff?
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jan 2018

I watched his full congressional testimony and was fascinated by that although I had some questions about some of the details and now reading this transcript brings up even more questions. What a strange scenario all around. It's like a spy novel but I feel like nobody is really unpacking and explaining what's going on with the whole Browder/Magnitsky angle.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
137. I'm too tired (and a little drunk) to read it tonight
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:28 AM
Jan 2018

I want to do it the justice it deserves. Gonna get a good night's sleep, read it in the morning, and read this thread for other ideas

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
144. about time
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jan 2018

For the Democrats to start showing some courage to stand up to REPTHUGLIKKKANS and their turd-in-chief. Yep Dinero started me to really understand what ameriKKKans really are calling a leader.

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