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Question for Body language experts (Original Post) gabeana Jan 2018 OP
It's considered defensive Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #1
So what do you think it means for Trump gabeana Jan 2018 #3
He's incredibly insecure as are all narcissists Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #5
Thanks for the explanation gabeana Jan 2018 #8
He knows he's a fraud C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #2
He does this frequently in these "appearances" .... n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #4
I noticed that too gabeana Jan 2018 #6
Some thoughts: Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #7
That is a good explanantion gabeana Jan 2018 #9
Yes I think the meetings are very hard on him. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #10
As Kirk Lover noted above, he does do this a lot. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #11

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
5. He's incredibly insecure as are all narcissists
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jan 2018

That's why he's always talking about how great he is and how much better he is than everyone else. If he really believed it he wouldn't be saying it all the time. Like when you're a little kid walking down a dark path saying "I'm not scared, I'm not scared..."

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
8. Thanks for the explanation
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jan 2018

I've done that pose myself it is usually when I am in an uncomfortable situation and I tell myself stop doing that, don't be so closed off, In certain situation I can be really shy, I don't see Trump being shy, so that pose of his surprised me

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
6. I noticed that too
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:49 PM
Jan 2018

it is not a normal look for a world leader, but Trump has not demonstrated that in any form, so no surprise there

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
7. Some thoughts:
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jan 2018

He also does not sit back in his chair.
And he seems to be glaring when he folds his arms.
So he looks hostile, insecure and uncomfortable.

I think on an unconscious level, he is quite insecure and fragile.
Covered up by his grandiosity and bravado.
It does not take much to trigger his feelings of inadequacy.

In the meetings people are talking about topics which he knows nothing about.
And using big words and inside baseball slang and references that are totally over his head.

He cannot admit he needs help, nor can he ask for help.
It does not occur to him to prepare for the meetings.

So he begins to feel attacked, inadequate, and angry.
Hence the arms folding, the glaring, and sitting on the edge of his seat.
Would also explain his constant demand that people go around the room praising him.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
11. As Kirk Lover noted above, he does do this a lot.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jan 2018

His arms looked especially tightly crossed today.

And to the point of him knowing he is a fraud - damn right. At least some part of him, no matter how minuscule, must recognize that he is a total phony.

People who are really good at something don't have to yap about it all the time. They don't have to tell you - they just show you.

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