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Orrex

(63,208 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:18 AM Jan 2018

Question about Hollywood's gender pay-gap

Saw this on FB:
‘All the Money in the World’: Mark Wahlberg Was Paid Millions More Than Michelle Williams For Reshoots

The first two comments were:

Do you want to know why Michelle Williams got far, far less than Mark Wahlberg for the reshoots? Because she has a really shitty agent. That's why.
and
You know what makes men want to see a movie? Action. You know what makes women want ot see a movie? Male movie stars.


I haven't seen this movie and I know nothing about it except that Christopher Plummer replaced the skeevy Kevin Spacey.

Regardless, what are your thoughts re: these two comments?
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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. The first comment is accurate
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

I'm not even going to try and parse the second.

This is all about the producers side of things. Hell, Ridley Scott didn't think ANYONE got paid for the reshoots. Wahlbergs agents put in and did this. Wahlberg likely didn't even know and as mentioned on GMA today he'll probably donate it to charity.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
2. So Michelle Williams is lying? The first comment is contradicted by interviews with Williams
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:27 AM
Jan 2018

Per her own words, she volunteered to do the reshoots for free in order to help replace Kevin Spacey in the film. Another contradiction is that Wahlberg and Williams are represented by the same agency. Probably not the same specific agent, but in the same range.

Also the director Ridley Scott says Wahlberg did the reshoots for free as well.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
4. Pretty much
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jan 2018

The only one who probably got paid is Plummer since he was completely new to it.

Reshoots happen in EVERY movie and actors are not paid extra for them. They're built into the process. This movie is an exception because of what happened with Kevin Spacey.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
8. There's always exceptions, since very film is like it's own pop-up company
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jan 2018

Hence the problems with sexual assault as there's no real "HR" but that also factors into pay and the like.

This film is just a weird exception.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
5. Yeah, I'm honestly vague on the details
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:34 AM
Jan 2018

I don't know the backstory, so I'm reluctant to say that anyone is lying, but the whole thing seems weird.

The info you've provided makes the primary story seem rather fishy, to be sure.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
9. Wow, it is almost like someone on FB is trying to gin up outrage of something that seems to be true.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:55 AM
Jan 2018

mainer

(12,022 posts)
12. I think Michelle Williams didn't know Wahlberg was getting paid far more
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jan 2018

I think even Ridley Scott didn't know, because he was doing it for free too.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,985 posts)
3. Both facile, ignorant, sexism excuses
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jan 2018

Since agents are paid with a percentage of clients' pay, it obviously behooves them to get the most they can for their clients. It's whoever cuts the paycheck who has the power, not the agent.

As for the second comment, bullshit AFAIC. Example, I love both Bette Davis and Errol Flynn as actors. I'll watch anything she's in. I won't watch anything he's in.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
7. Yeah, the second one was especially WTF for me.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jan 2018

It diminishes both male and female viewers, all to justify unfair pay for female performers.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
10. Comment 2 Is Nonsense
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jan 2018

The first one may be true, maybe not. The second reason is ridiculously invalid.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
11. Here's what I gather from various news reports
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

Ridley Scott said that everyone agreed to do the re-shoots for nearly free. Michelle Williams said of course she'd do it -- they all wanted the movie to be completed.

But Mark Wahlberg wouldn't do it without a big payday, and his negotiations were done in secret.

So everyone else was working as a dedicated team, and Marky Mark was a money grubbing jerk who knew he was secretly getting paid more than everyone else.

And someone found out and leaked it.

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