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grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:12 PM Jan 2018

That woman who returned a dead Xmas tree to Costco

back on January 4 got me thinking...

People like her are probably the reason we are bombarded with idiotic signs and disclaimers all the time. Two of my recent favorites:

At Ikea, just last week, there was one of those 400 square foot "model apartments." The place actually looked nice and livable for people who don't have a lot of accumulated stuff. But there in the bathroom, right under the toilet seat and big as life, was a sign saying something like "for display only." I saw the same sign on several other toilets.

At Safeway, there was this area consisting of a counter backed by a wall display, all full of nuts. Nuts: all kind of nuts. Even overhead there was a sign saying nuts. And on the counter was a very small, nicely made sign that said, "Caution: products in this area contain nuts." I asked the clerk behind the counter about it, and all she could do was roll her eyes.

I understand a lot of it is the fear of getting sued, but it makes me wonder how far this "dumbing down" will go.

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That woman who returned a dead Xmas tree to Costco (Original Post) grumpyduck Jan 2018 OP
Woman was an idiot IMO. n/t USALiberal Jan 2018 #1
Why do you think Home Depot stores display toilets seven feet off the floor? jmowreader Jan 2018 #2
You win the internets! thegoose Jan 2018 #6
Good point, but I hope that grumpyduck Jan 2018 #8
Negative. They learned from experience. jmowreader Jan 2018 #11
Holy shit! grumpyduck Jan 2018 #16
I don't think the 3-year old is going to understand the "Display Only" sign... sdfernando Jan 2018 #18
No, but I'd like to think the parents grumpyduck Jan 2018 #21
Hahahahaha parents keeping an eye on kids in the store? crazycatlady Jan 2018 #22
Yeah, no kidding! grumpyduck Jan 2018 #23
There have been idiots in every generation marybourg Jan 2018 #3
I understand that, but grumpyduck Jan 2018 #5
No one is pandering to them. Atman Jan 2018 #17
Okay, I can buy that. grumpyduck Jan 2018 #19
Good post and it's across the globe malaise Jan 2018 #4
We need tort reform, right??? ret5hd Jan 2018 #7
And there was that quote from grumpyduck Jan 2018 #9
I dunno...what's your opinion. Thinkin' you mighta taken a left... ret5hd Jan 2018 #10
Well, I don't know anything about tort law, grumpyduck Jan 2018 #15
That line is either misquoted or misunderstood. TomSlick Jan 2018 #24
Was there any proof that picture was real? Oneironaut Jan 2018 #12
I always love commericals when they show crazy stunts and accidents... Initech Jan 2018 #13
Years ago ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #14
lawyers have defeated darwin. we need more darwin. pansypoo53219 Jan 2018 #20

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
8. Good point, but I hope that
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jan 2018

somebody was thinking ahead, instead of the stores having to learn from experience.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
11. Negative. They learned from experience.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jan 2018

Think about it. You're a three-year-old. You're not schooled in the social graces. You need to use a toilet very badly, there's a toilet right there...this is also the reason the Home Depot hazardous waste cleanup manual (yes, they have one) has instructions on how to mitigate fresh feces.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
18. I don't think the 3-year old is going to understand the "Display Only" sign...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jan 2018

Probably can't read it anyway....why not just seal the lid down so it cannot be opened?

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
21. No, but I'd like to think the parents
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 08:23 PM
Jan 2018

would understand the sign, or even understand that it's a display unit. Or at least keep an eye on the 3-year-old.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
22. Hahahahaha parents keeping an eye on kids in the store?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jan 2018

That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Seriously, the toy department in any given store might as well be renamed 'Free babysitting"

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
5. I understand that, but
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jan 2018

I'm 66 years old, and I don't remember so much pandering to them at this level up until fairly recently.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
17. No one is pandering to them.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jan 2018

Bean counters and attorney's are protecting the bottom line from stupidity.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
4. Good post and it's across the globe
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:21 PM
Jan 2018

There are really stupid and really corrupt people everywhere. The woman with the Christmas tree is simply a thief.

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
9. And there was that quote from
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jan 2018

Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2. "First thing we do... "

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
10. I dunno...what's your opinion. Thinkin' you mighta taken a left...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jan 2018

when you meant to take a right.

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
15. Well, I don't know anything about tort law,
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jan 2018

so I can't comment on reform.

And I don't think it's a matter of left or right. I just think a lot of businesses are so afraid of getting sued that they go all out to come up with ways to address every possible eventuality. And like I said above, I don't remember so much "disclaiming" when I was growing up or even after I'd been working for many years.

Case in point: years ago, the manuals that came with power tools and appliances told you how to use the things. There was some info on safety, but it was mostly common sense. Nowadays, I've seen manuals where the first half is all about disclaimers (often repeated) and safety stuff. I've even seen a few instruction sheets that were mostly disclaimers.

So my real question is, is all this being driven by businesses' legal departments as a response to the insurance companies, or by some other factor? I can guess the answer, but I don't know it.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
24. That line is either misquoted or misunderstood.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:16 AM
Jan 2018

The line is given by Dick the Butcher. A band of miscreants are dreaming of over throwing the government - the Trumpsters of the story. In order to over turn the rule of law, Dick the Butcher proposes - "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."

The only hope this country has at this point is that the rule of law will prevail - that no one, including the President is above the law. If lawyers like Mueller don't save the country, all is lost.

Oneironaut

(5,494 posts)
12. Was there any proof that picture was real?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jan 2018

I’m curious.

I know it was a picture of a woman with a tree. I’m just wondering if the context was correct?

Initech

(100,072 posts)
13. I always love commericals when they show crazy stunts and accidents...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jan 2018

Only to follow with "do not attempt". As if anyone is going to jump a shopping cart from a skydiving plane out into the parking lot with no parachute. Or someone's going to put a barbecue grill into a truck that's still lit on fire.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. Years ago ...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jan 2018

A teacher I knew took a small group of children to a department store for some reason,
and one used the commode that was part of a display in an area of the store.

As I recall, she hurried them out of the store.

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