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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:17 PM Jan 2018

Wow - great tweet from CNN's Jim Sciutto. Nails it.





When my father’s relatives came here, many Americans considered Italy a “shithole” country. When my mother’s relatives immigrated, many felt the same about Ireland. Similar for my wife’s grandparents from Mexico & Russia. I’m as proud as ever tonight of our heritage.
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Wow - great tweet from CNN's Jim Sciutto. Nails it. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2018 OP
White supremacist in cilla4progress Jan 2018 #1
Scandal! Sciutto should be fired! regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #2
TRUE shenmue Jan 2018 #3
no dogs------ no Irish MFM008 Jan 2018 #4
I kinda hope SCVDem Jan 2018 #17
no no MFM008 Jan 2018 #19
Don't worry about nitpicking. maddiemom Jan 2018 #25
I'm not 100, but I am billh58 Jan 2018 #24
It's too bad his network provided Trump with endless amounts of free media in 2016. NT Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #5
All the networks did this. Collusion? Perhaps. Or just feeding frenzies. erronis Jan 2018 #10
Phil Mudd said the same mcar Jan 2018 #6
I may be wrong but I think I saw him on CNN this evening BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #7
I didn't see that, but will try to find video. Thanks! highplainsdem Jan 2018 #8
Haven't found video of Sciutto, but did find video of Phil Mudd, and think you might mean him. highplainsdem Jan 2018 #9
It was Mudd! BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #23
Catholics as viewed in the past Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #11
Poles, Irish, Germans, Russians, Italians as viewed in the past Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #12
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #13
or greeks... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #14
My ancestors on my father's side were poor Irish Catholic peasants PatrickforO Jan 2018 #15
Word for word. snort Jan 2018 #20
This is the sort of "chain migration" Trump and his acolytes complain about: tblue37 Jan 2018 #22
Great story. Oh, and the non-wealthy in the U.S. not fooled Jan 2018 #27
There was a time when stores carried the signs: "No Irish Need Apply." StevieM Jan 2018 #16
Right. The Irish were discriminated against in terms of employment Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #26
Regarding Norway kskiska Jan 2018 #18
Immigrants from Norway? Straw Man Jan 2018 #21
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
17. I kinda hope
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jan 2018

that you are 100 years old.

It would be impossible to see that in my adult lifetime and not react in a negative manner.

Today saddens me deeply.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
25. Don't worry about nitpicking.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jan 2018

I imagine that was meant in good humor. Anyone who is even a casual student of history knows what immigrants from various countries have faced over the years, and often has heard stories from their parents, grandparents...and so forth. One of the strangest things in American, historical culture is the habit of those who already exist as "Americans" resenting other cultures arriving, even though their families may have had the same problems. African-Americans are the only ones who didn't deliberately decide to be here. I won't even start on Native Americans (they are the ONLY ones who are just that: Native). "Mankind is not exactly kind, overall. BUT there are always those of us who TRY. OTH, there are a lot of those Hillary called "deplorables,' to consider: outraged, and they DO exist. They aren't the only ones who voted for Trump, but they are the ones who'd support him even if he committed blatant murder. Their mindset is what is truly sad, because they've given up on their own feelings of possibly being "worthy" unless they have others to look down on, and resent as given unfair advantage. As a teacher, I found that somewhere in the Seventies, the educational advantages they enjoyed became a burden to too many perfectly intelligent kids,who were capable of doing better. I can't begin to remember how many thought they'd get scholarships and become pro athletes-sometimes their coaches even got threatening about their grades (not the majority of coaches). The advantages of education in this country were lost to many in the last forty decades. In the last two decades,however, even the most motivated are in deep college loan debt, and finding jobs hard to find. This is a mess a president like Trump can only make horrifically worse. Any Republican who can only say that all these "spongers"only need to get jobs (and no raising minimum to livable wages). WTF?

billh58

(6,635 posts)
24. I'm not 100, but I am
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jan 2018

old enough to remember seeing signs outside restaurants and bars in Norfolk, VA in the late 1950s saying, "Niggers, dogs, and soldiers not allowed." I was stationed at Ft. Eustis at the time.

mcar

(42,316 posts)
6. Phil Mudd said the same
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jan 2018

And it's true. My Irish ancestors experienced it.

And that's not even close to what people brought here in chains experienced and still experience.

BumRushDaShow

(128,944 posts)
7. I may be wrong but I think I saw him on CNN this evening
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jan 2018

and he literally went into a very emotional tirade saying the same as that tweet (with some additional comments).

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
9. Haven't found video of Sciutto, but did find video of Phil Mudd, and think you might mean him.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jan 2018

Will post another OP about that, and then add the link here...


OK, here's the link:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210088619

getagrip_already

(14,747 posts)
14. or greeks...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:55 PM
Jan 2018

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or..

Front page news: “The Greeks are of a very jealous disposition and believe all women are faithless”

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PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
15. My ancestors on my father's side were poor Irish Catholic peasants
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jan 2018

who fled the potato famine in the late 1840s, and came to the United States on coffin ships. In 1847, County Roscommon in Ireland was definitely thought of as a shit hole.

Here's a great quote from another Irish immigrant of that era:
"We wouldn't die, and that annoyed them. They'd spent centuries trying to kill us off, one way or another, and here we were, raising seven, eight, nine of a family on nothing but potatoes and buttermilk. But then the blight destroyed the potato. Three times in four years our only food rotted in the ground. Nothing to eat, the healthy crops sent away to feed England. We starved. More than a million died - most of them in the West, which is only a quarter of the country, with Ireland itself just half the size of Illinois. A small place to hold so much suffering."

"But we didn't all die. Two million of us escaped, one reaching back for the next. Surely one of the great rescues in human history. We saved ourselves, helped only by God and our own strong faith. Now look at us, doing well all over the world. We didn't die."

Honora Keeley Kelly, born 1822, County Galway, Ireland.

Now, we see this young lady from Africa, who has come here and made good. Let us rejoice with her in her success instead of hating her because she is an immigrant. THAT is the American way, or should be.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
22. This is the sort of "chain migration" Trump and his acolytes complain about:
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:01 AM
Jan 2018
Two million of us escaped, one reaching back for the next. Surely one of the great rescues in human history.


People saving people.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
27. Great story. Oh, and the non-wealthy in the U.S.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jan 2018

better pay attention to the treatment of the peasantry in Ireland. If the morans who work for a living and vote puke think that the same treatment isn't in store for them and that the wealthy care about them because these peasants happen to be citizens of the good ol' USA, think again.

The U.S. 21st century version would be soft-pedaled and implemented in a more discrete manner, but letting people starve and die, without access to health care--in large numbers, as opposed to the low-level killing currently going on--is what puke policies will lead to if people don't wake up and vote them out.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
16. There was a time when stores carried the signs: "No Irish Need Apply."
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jan 2018

We are better than that today.

Sadly, our president is not.

Irish_Dem

(47,037 posts)
26. Right. The Irish were discriminated against in terms of employment
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

and segregated into certain neighborhoods here in the US.
The Irish also came to the US as indentured servants.

In Ireland they had been oppressed, systematically abused and starved by the British.
Their language, religion, customs all denigrated by the British.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
18. Regarding Norway
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jan 2018

Norway has universal health care and FORTY-SIX WEEKS of paid parental leave. Why the hell would anyone living there give that up to move here?

Straw Man

(6,624 posts)
21. Immigrants from Norway?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:21 AM
Jan 2018

Maybe 100 years ago. Today? Not so much.

I'm reminded of a friend from my college days who said that she wanted to join the Peace Corps for the travel opportunity. I asked her where she was hoping they would send her.

"France," she replied.

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