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orleans

(34,073 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:35 PM Jan 2018

Video Reportedly Shows Woman In Hospital Gown Left On Street By Baltimore ER Staff

i hate that the title says "reportedly" because you can SEE the woman. cbs titles it with "reportedly"

there is a news video at the link

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/01/10/woman-left-outside-hospital/
from the article:
A pedestrian captured the incident on video, in which he says staff at the University of Maryland Medical Center Midtown campus left a woman, only in her hospital gown, near a bus stop in about 30-40 degree weather Wednesday night.

UMMC officials are now investigating after the woman was left on the street in a gown and socks.

Imamu Baraka was leaving his office across the street from the hospital just as workers wheeled the patient out and left her at the bus stop.

“This woman was placed in the city of Baltimore, in the dead of night, in the cold, vulnerable, exposed,” he said. “She lets out this kind of cry. I felt that. I’m like, ‘come on, let’s go over here. Let’s sit down.’ And, then, she begins to stumble, and I’m like this is going to get bad really fast.”

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Video Reportedly Shows Woman In Hospital Gown Left On Street By Baltimore ER Staff (Original Post) orleans Jan 2018 OP
Patient dumping at its worst Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #1
No words ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #2
I'm speechless. I bet this goes on all over this country daily. SummerSnow Jan 2018 #3
it is absolutely chilling to me orleans Jan 2018 #4
This was a problem in San Diego back in the 90's left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #5
This must be an institutional practice at that hospital procon Jan 2018 #6
I am not defending anyone in this ugly episode, but you don't have enough facts to know . . . . Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #8
Yes, I do know from my own experience working in many EDs as an RN. procon Jan 2018 #9
I am aware of all that and not arguing any of the details. Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #10
Thi hospital is the flagship of the University of Maryland Medical System (UMMS) Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #7

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
1. Patient dumping at its worst
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:46 PM
Jan 2018

There is no excuse for this, none. You have to wonder how many times this has happened and it wasn't caught.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
5. This was a problem in San Diego back in the 90's
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:04 AM
Jan 2018

I recall it was in the news.

One big hospital, not University Medical, was on the news for taking discharged patients in wheelchairs (one at a time) to a local bus stop and abandoning them there.
They'd move them from the wheelchair and sit them on the bus bench.
Even patients who were physically unable to get up from the bench.

I don't recall what came of it.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. This must be an institutional practice at that hospital
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jan 2018

Every accredited hospital has specific discharge policies that are administered by professionals who coordinate the patient's needs with community services. This wasn't done, yet the ER doc, the nursing staff, and aides were all complicit in placing that patient in danger, and no one said anything to stop it.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
8. I am not defending anyone in this ugly episode, but you don't have enough facts to know . . . .
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:30 AM
Jan 2018

. . . . who to blame and yet you lay it at the feet the doctor(s), the nursing staff, and aides. Can you say who did what? If you'll take the time to read the story, you will find that few facts are known publicly. An investigation is ongoing.

Please don't blame people who may well have had nothing to do with the event or, indeed, may have tried to prevent it.

Yes, this was an absolutely horrible, totally inexcusable action, but so far all we know is that three uniformed men put her on the street where that wonderful man happened to her rescue.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. Yes, I do know from my own experience working in many EDs as an RN.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:56 AM
Jan 2018

Everything is charted as part of the patients written medical record. Every person involved in that patients care adds to the documentations and signs off. If the doc says discharge to home and that patient has no home then other hospital services would have been called in to facilitate her safe disposition through community services. That takes time and costs money. That's at the root of patient dumping, money.

The discharge nurse knew the patient has no home when she ordered her out of the facility and onto the street, and she did it anyway. Maybe that was the unofficial standing order in that hospital, maybe she feared losing her job, or maybe she didn't give a damn, but I can be fair certain that the chart will say all that proper rules were followed. The people who left the woman on the street knew she was at risk, but they dumped her anyway without any qualms for human life because this was probably their normal routine.

No, too many errors occurred for this incident to be a mere one off event. Anyone involved in that patient's care could have prevented this from happening, but no one was advocating for patient welfare.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
10. I am aware of all that and not arguing any of the details.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:06 AM
Jan 2018

But you still don't know the facts of THIS case.

As but pure speculation, it could have been a rogue doc. It could have been a rogue administrator. It could be the patient WAS discharged and a social worker came to the end of a shift and just said "fuck it".

While all of that and more is possible, in THIS case, neither you nor I know any more that what has so far been reported - and that's not very much.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
7. Thi hospital is the flagship of the University of Maryland Medical System (UMMS)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:18 AM
Jan 2018

It is home to the absolute, top notch, none better, they wrote the book level one trauma center, known as Shock Trauma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_Adams_Cowley_Shock_Trauma_Center

I know that area. The woman was dropped steps from this PREMIER life saving facility. UMMS has been all over the media today apologizing. I wonder if they apologized directly to this woman or her family. Her mother has had her moved to another (unnamed) medical institution.

This isn't going away for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=MinKIBZv2-k




This is the statement of the hospital's CEO.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-hospital-video-follow-20180111-story.html

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