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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:23 PM Jan 2018

Trump Lawyer Arranged $130,000 Payment for Adult-Film Stars Silence Agreement just before election

By Michael Rothfeld and Joe Palazzolo
Updated Jan. 12, 2018 3:13 p.m. ET


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A lawyer for President Donald Trump arranged a $130,000 payment to a former adult-film star a month before the 2016 election as part of an agreement that precluded her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter.

Michael Cohen, who spent nearly a decade as a top attorney at the Trump Organization, arranged payment to the woman, Stephanie Clifford, in October 2016 after her lawyer negotiated the nondisclosure agreement with Mr. Cohen, these people said.

Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels, has privately alleged the encounter with Mr. Trump took place after they met at a July 2006 celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, these people said. Mr. Trump married Melania Trump in 2005.

Mr. Trump faced other allegations during his campaign of inappropriate behavior with women, and vehemently denied them. In this matter, there is no allegation of a nonconsensual interaction.




https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678
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Trump Lawyer Arranged $130,000 Payment for Adult-Film Stars Silence Agreement just before election (Original Post) kpete Jan 2018 OP
Stormy Daniels. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #1
Godfrey Daniels! Girard442 Jan 2018 #6
Oh My, From the Wall Street Journal spanone Jan 2018 #2
This I don't care about. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #3
No, it's not. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #8
Melania surely knows, and possibly allows it to happen. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #13
Possibly. That part I have no interest in. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #21
As long as he stays away from her. brush Jan 2018 #30
She probably thinks better her than me. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #45
Trump didn't silence her because of Melania lunatica Jan 2018 #76
Paying a bribe for silence is the story here, not the affair scheming daemons Jan 2018 #19
You defend sexual predators, as if the victims should just shut up. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #39
There is not enough information to indicate this is a case of sexual abuse. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #47
More info, if you don't think this is important. Not sex abuse, blackmail and Russia. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #81
So you're okay with the president bribing tenderfoot Jan 2018 #42
Nope. I am just waiting for the story that will bring him down. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #48
What kind of story would do it for you? kcr Jan 2018 #73
Something his base would not tolerate. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #80
Really the family values president. ??? He said he was a Christian remember Two Corinthians? Oppaloopa Jan 2018 #43
LOL! IluvPitties Jan 2018 #49
Hush money doesn't bother you? Wednesdays Jan 2018 #70
That blow job was between Bill and Hillary....... Bengus81 Jan 2018 #74
Aaaaaaarghhh!!!! Now I need this: Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #4
It's going to be interesting when someone breaks their silence about some aspects of Trump. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #5
Maybe he was paying for sex, but again IluvPitties Jan 2018 #12
So the payoff doesn't matter? Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #20
Could be. I just don't know what to expect from Trump and his fucked up family anymore. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #22
Its basically an NDA. You promise not to talk about how lousy I was & here's 130k 7962 Jan 2018 #58
She was probably glad she got some money orangecrush Jan 2018 #59
NDAs aren't worth the toilet paper they are smeared on erronis Jan 2018 #67
"inappropriate at most"? bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #50
130k, that's ALL? leftstreet Jan 2018 #7
The article states that the agreement was for $150k... The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #16
What porn star complains about a man being slow in coming? ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #24
+++++ The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #25
When the man is Trump, Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #46
Donald "Shortcomings" tRump strikes again. ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #52
"Hey, donnie. If you can't do it, use your fingers.... Oh wait." erronis Jan 2018 #68
The payment tells us all we need to know, Donald. MineralMan Jan 2018 #9
More sex diversion to put the racist exposing himself off the headlines malaise Jan 2018 #10
Yep. Let's all respond by re-reading the Fusion GPS report of his ties to Squinch Jan 2018 #29
+1,000 malaise Jan 2018 #31
I work with disabled kids in a poor neighborhood. I am so terrified about this. I really hate Squinch Jan 2018 #36
! ornotna Jan 2018 #11
So was this campaign fund money, kids-with-cancer charity money, or converted-from-rubles money? NBachers Jan 2018 #14
Apparently Ms. Daniels considered running for David Vitter's MineralMan Jan 2018 #15
"Ms. Clifford has appeared in about 150 adult films" dalton99a Jan 2018 #17
Interesting. So the WSJ (news not editorials) is back to being critical of Trump? salin Jan 2018 #18
Cover for something more damaging about to come out? meadowlander Jan 2018 #27
Yup. And to keep the proles entertained in the meantime. erronis Jan 2018 #69
Sounds right: distraction complicit. salin Jan 2018 #78
$130K, just before the erection? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #23
Kick and rec Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #26
This is one of those things that should be a huge deal bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #28
This is just part of a "meta gish gallop." It's to distract from the Fusion GPS report. Squinch Jan 2018 #37
Jenn #MorrisseyGirl4Life ‏ @JenniferLBrewer 24m liberaltrucker Jan 2018 #32
She should have tacked a few more 0s onto the agreement. Vinca Jan 2018 #33
That porn star looks a lot like Marla Maples, his second wife Sanity Claws Jan 2018 #34
...and more than a little like Ivanka... Ken Burch Jan 2018 #38
Possible to consider that this payment was to NoMoreRepugs Jan 2018 #35
If something can be disclosed, is it still just "alleged"? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #40
The payment was in rubles Yavin4 Jan 2018 #41
I wonder if she has a really large bladder? Ilsa Jan 2018 #44
Erection therapist. Historic NY Jan 2018 #51
And pute is an Election Therapist? erronis Jan 2018 #71
honestly I am really not an old prude d_r Jan 2018 #53
130K sounds cheap to me,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2018 #54
Is this the same woman who alleged he offered her and a friend $25000 for sex? wishstar Jan 2018 #55
To answer my own question, this is a different woman than Jessica Drake, another adult film star wishstar Jan 2018 #64
Huge mistake, his cheating on his wife would have got him more deplorables Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #56
So, I guess "they" just don't "let" you do it. Corgigal Jan 2018 #57
Good point. Maybe a bit of dough to ease the disgust? erronis Jan 2018 #72
That picture (his smirk)...Could you imagine if Obama had done this? anneboleyn Jan 2018 #60
That is what pisses me off more than anything! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #61
This smells like Bannon's revenge... XRubicon Jan 2018 #62
trump supporters will not care. They know he has paid hush money for Hoyt Jan 2018 #63
I go out for a few hours and Trumps paying off porn queens, this never ends.... sunonmars Jan 2018 #65
Real Time jayschool2013 Jan 2018 #66
Maybe his, a-hem, performance left MUCH to be, um, desired? ?? lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #75
Dig Trump. ..looks older 10 years ago ollie10 Jan 2018 #77
Ok I don't smoke but geez Trump is high as kite. His eyes GusBob Jan 2018 #79
Kick nt Fummel Jan 2018 #82
Is Bannon leaking again? HappyBeing Jan 2018 #83
Kick n/t HootieMcBoob Jan 2018 #84
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. No, it's not.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

We should damn well care about things that could lead our President to be easily blackmailed. It is completely our business.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
76. Trump didn't silence her because of Melania
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jan 2018

If he had he would have done it in 2006, not in 2016. He silenced her because he was running for Office.

It's definitely behoves us to know this crap.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
39. You defend sexual predators, as if the victims should just shut up.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jan 2018

Dealings between the predator and spouse are a separate issue.

It does NOT override the abuse of power for sexual gain.

Affairs may be consensual on the surface, but when there is a huge power imbalance it rarely is truly consensual.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
47. There is not enough information to indicate this is a case of sexual abuse.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jan 2018

This looks like something sort of pay for play stuff.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
81. More info, if you don't think this is important. Not sex abuse, blackmail and Russia.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jan 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210093280

Excerpts of about 20 tweets

3/ Third, understand that this breaking news comes from a conservative publication {WSJ} whose editorial page is wildly pro-Trump. This is a real, well-sourced story, by all accounts. Trump will not be able to claim that this report comes from CNN, MSNBC, or another "fake news" outlet.

5/ The reason this matters is that after BUZZFEED published the Steele Dossier, those of us who agreed with the FBI and CIA that it appeared credible on its face and came from a credible source—the former top Russianist at MI6—were told it *couldn't* be true for several reasons.

6/ The main reason Trump's allies said the 35-page dossier had to be false is because they insisted that its *first page*—which alleged that the Kremlin was blackmailing Trump—couldn't be true and wasn't true. All of the reasons they gave just died—all at once—with this WSJ news.

7/ They said he couldn't be blackmailed. Why? He loves bad press. Or has no shame. Or everyone already knows all his dirt. Or his wives had implicitly allowed him to cheat (a tacit Steele Dossier allegation). Or people feared lawsuits. Or him. So don't worry about it, they said.

8/ But now we know that Trump *can* be blackmailed. And he can be blackmailed *easily*. Stormy Daniels, a porn star, got $130,000 from a man who hardly parted with a dime to become POTUS—and apparently got that money as soon as she asked for it.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. It's going to be interesting when someone breaks their silence about some aspects of Trump.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jan 2018

The actions discussed with respect to the dossiers sex tape might be true. I truly don't think Trump was out there having sex with adult-film stars. That doesn't mean I don't think he wasn't paying for them to perform for him in some way.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
12. Maybe he was paying for sex, but again
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

consensual sex in this case would be inappropriate at most, given that he was married. However, it would not bring him down. If he was doing that now, as president, or if he engaged in harassment, rape or that type of thing, then it would be the end for him.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
58. Its basically an NDA. You promise not to talk about how lousy I was & here's 130k
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jan 2018

She shoulda held out for more

erronis

(15,241 posts)
67. NDAs aren't worth the toilet paper they are smeared on
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jan 2018

They are more blunt instruments to get people to shut up.

If those people consult with a good beagle, there are so many ways that trying to prosecute a disclosure under an NDA will make the whole matter much worse for the holder.

It's all a matter of "what do YOU have to lose to pursue this."

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
50. "inappropriate at most"?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jan 2018

who else is being paid off? why is he doing Russia's bidding?

You're just minimizing this, and for what purpose?

Why do you trivialize these grave dangers to our country?

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
16. The article states that the agreement was for $150k...
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jan 2018

But she complained that the payments were slow in coming and threatened to cancel the deal. At that point Trump's lawyer cut a check for $130k

erronis

(15,241 posts)
68. "Hey, donnie. If you can't do it, use your fingers.... Oh wait."
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

It's ok, remove this post as necessary.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
29. Yep. Let's all respond by re-reading the Fusion GPS report of his ties to
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jan 2018

the Russian mafia, and his criminal activity, and by contacting our Congresspeople and telling them that we want him censured, impeached and then drummed out.

And then let's tell them to get off their damn asses and fund CHIP.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
36. I work with disabled kids in a poor neighborhood. I am so terrified about this. I really hate
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jan 2018

those hypocritical monsters.

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
17. "Ms. Clifford has appeared in about 150 adult films"
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018
The Journal previously reported that Ms. Clifford, 38 years old, had been in talks with ABC’s “Good Morning America” in the fall of 2016 about an appearance to discuss Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter. In that article, the Journal reported the company that owns the National Enquirer agreed to pay $150,000 to a former Playboy centerfold model three months before the election for her story of an affair a decade earlier with the Republican presidential nominee, which the tabloid newspaper didn’t publish. The company said she was paid to write fitness columns and appear on magazine covers. ...

Ms. Clifford has appeared in about 150 adult films, and was considered among the industry’s biggest stars when the then-27-year-old met Mr. Trump at the American Century Championship in 2006, held at Edgewood Tahoe golf course in Nevada.

Another adult-film star, Jessica Drake, later alleged in an October 2016 news conference that Mr. Trump kissed her and two other women without permission in a hotel suite after the same 2006 golf event.

“I did not sign [a nondisclosure agreement], nor have I received any money for coming forward,” Ms. Drake said this week in an emailed statement. “I spoke out because it was the right thing to do.”

salin

(48,955 posts)
18. Interesting. So the WSJ (news not editorials) is back to being critical of Trump?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

Wonder why Rupert is letting this 'dissing don' story through today...

salin

(48,955 posts)
78. Sounds right: distraction complicit.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jan 2018

I am listening to 'Fire and Fury' on audibles, when I get breaks. In it - Murdoch, prior to Trump's election - viewed Trump as a moron, though was friends with Jared and Ivanka (who were neighbors). Then at some point after the new presidency shifted how he interacts with Trump - and recently changed how the news side of the WSJ treated Trump (much more kindly.)

We know that early in the trump admin. WSJ reporting was running some very critical - and journalistically important stories. And then stopped. The Editorials in the WSJ have been right wing for decades, long before Murdoch bought the paper. But the reporting remained more objective, and sometimes very substantive. No longer.

Your point makes sense. Let's pay attention to stories that leak in the next several days to see what the now Trump toady Murdoch is playing 'distraction' with reporting this story.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
28. This is one of those things that should be a huge deal
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jan 2018

But Trump will do something stupid tonight and everyone will forget about it.

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
32. Jenn #MorrisseyGirl4Life ‏ @JenniferLBrewer 24m
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

Well, I just lost any respect I ever had for Stormy Daniels.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
34. That porn star looks a lot like Marla Maples, his second wife
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

In fact, at first, I thought that someone must have posted the wrong photo.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,423 posts)
35. Possible to consider that this payment was to
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

protect against negative comments about little hands Donnie's performance and in turn his enormous ego? Just wondering.....

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
44. I wonder if she has a really large bladder?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jan 2018

How kinky did he get?

I bet Melania didn't care. She was probably already pregnant with her anchor baby.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
53. honestly I am really not an old prude
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jan 2018

but this guy has completely ruined the values of this country. The most self-righteous among us are now perfectly ok with being in porn movies, the first lady of the UNITED STATES posing nude, a new york casino owning mobster being president, a racist being president, and russians interfering with a us election. it is fucking nuts.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
55. Is this the same woman who alleged he offered her and a friend $25000 for sex?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jan 2018

I can't read the article due to paywall, but I do recall allegations before election from an adult film star who attended a golfing event where he invited her to his room and offered big sum of money which she turned down because she works in adult films, not prostitution so she was offended. This settlement seems to definitely confirm her story, if it is the same person, but surprising since she had already told her story.

Wall St Journal also printed before election that National Enquirer (whose publisher is Trump friend) had paid the Playboy playmate who had a long- running affair with Trump for exclusive rights to her story and to buy her silence, but Enquirer never ran her story.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
64. To answer my own question, this is a different woman than Jessica Drake, another adult film star
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jan 2018

The story I was familiar with from before election involved Jessica Drake, who had a booth at a golf tournament and then was propositioned with the large payment offer that she turned down.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
60. That picture (his smirk)...Could you imagine if Obama had done this?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jan 2018

We’d never, ever hear the end of it. Ever. Yet so far this is barely getting attention. This plus his appalling comments yesterday, which he is now claiming he never said, just UGH!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
61. That is what pisses me off more than anything!
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jan 2018

Obama, or any other Democrat, would have been crucified for something like this. It amazes me how much bullshit they get away with. They are all so vulgar, corrupt and disgusting. I want them to pay and I don't care what it is that brings them down.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
63. trump supporters will not care. They know he has paid hush money for
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jan 2018

lots of damaging things, and don't care.

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