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http://www.newsmax.com/US/aurora-assault-batman/2012/07/23/id/446230
Monday, 23 Jul 2012 10:23 AM
By Judith Miller
I have a dream to counter the nightmare of Aurora. I see three or four ex-presidents standing together, speaking truth to the American people. Here is what they would say: "Our fellow Americans, we have come together not as Democrats or Republicans, but as men who have been privileged to lead this great country.
"We all treasure the constitution and the Second Amendment. We believe that Americans have the right to own guns. But that amendment does not entitle citizens to own combat weapons like the assault weapon that the Aurora shooter used to kill 12 and wound 58 more in a Colorado theater.
"The AR-15 assault rifle is a military-style weapon designed to feature high-capacity ammunition magazines capable of firing up to 30 rounds of ammunition without reloading. You don't need an assault weapon to protect your family or shoot a deer. No one should own an assault rifle except our folks in the military and the law enforcement officers who protect us.
"For 10 years, assault weapons like these were banned in all 50 states until Congress let the Federal Assault Weapons Ban 'sunset.'
FULL story at link.
Judith Miller is an author and a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter formerly with The New York Times. She also is an adjunct fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor of its magazine, City Journal. Read all of Judith Miller's columns on Pundicity.com. Read more reports from Judith Miller Click Here Now.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)The sooner this piece of shit is out of the news, the better.
Fucking liar who confirmed all my worse suspicions about journalism being dead -- who gives a fuck about anything she might say?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)prior to posting.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The whole time she was writing lies about the WMD's in Iraq to try to drum up support for baby bush's misguided ego trip wars nobody bothered to edit or fact check her.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)professionalism has never existed. This is no different
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It's like the all-male republican committee banning womens birth control.
The shooters rifle is functionally similar to 10s of millions of hunting rifles already in circulation. If she is basing her opinion on the appearance of the gun, then shes just being silly amd ignorant.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...Holmes' weapons actually accounted for the most injuries and deaths.
I'm going to take a wild guess it wasn't the rifle.
gregoire
(192 posts)rather than just assault weapons.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Which is the part of the authoritarian position that most gun control advocates never want to discuss.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Whore.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)Here's a nice little intro:
http://www.salon.com/2010/12/30/judy_miller_newsmax/
Question to Omaha Steve: Why post something from Newsmax on a Democratic forum?
Omaha Steve
(99,618 posts)Trail balloon?
I got it in an email. I thought it was interesting Newsmax even let her put it online.
I did mention in a post earlier today Marta and I are gun owners. But you wouldn't know that by some things others have said.
Star Member Omaha Steve (32,534 posts)
340. Marta and I own a few
Whats the big deal?
With a pinched nerve in my neck, and a bad shoulder, my recreational firing of weapons days are over. Never hunted. Learned safety and then how to fire a rifle in the Boy Scouts. Dad used to take me out for target practice. Some of my best memories of my dad. Dad was an excellent hunter, but gave it up before I was born.
I am not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of irresponsible owners.
Chandler man accidentally shoots himself in groin (story & video): http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_southeast_valley/chandler/chandler-man-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-penis
Enough said?
OS
permatex
(1,299 posts)too fuckin funny
After her WMD story, why, oh why would anyone believe a word she says, and this little rant of hers just confirms my opinion that she is a clueless idiot.
Tejas
(4,759 posts)Parroted straight out of the Brady Campaign, you know, the Republicans that worked in Ronald Reagan's administration.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)ZERO credibility. Proven.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)She really took a huge fall after her collusion with war criminals.
Serve The Servants
(328 posts)I don't know about you, but when given the choice of either turning it in or becoming a felon my vote is - FUCK OFF.
I'd imagine many others feel the same way.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)For those that don't know, 'post ban' AR-15's were perfectly legal to sell. AR-15s manufactured during the ban basically couldn't
have flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and telescoping or folding stocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)misused it clearly illustrates when a person has no idea what they're talking about and are unwilling to invest in a 30 second google search to better understand the subject.
So they can be readily dismissed without feeling bad about it.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)and either of a pistol grip or a folding stock are of any material consequence to a shooting spree and if there were, what on Earth would present even a speed bump to modify to have the works to someone who has decided to commit mass murder?
I have no idea why people are under the delusion that adding these features to a body are not within a million miles of brain surgery. None of this stuff is even mechanical so the assault weapons ban was always an essentially stupid law because the only reasonably impacted people would be otherwise law abiding citizens and of course perfectly compliant guns have the exact same damage dealing capability and even could pretty much look the same. Only the ban compliant weapon owner is made to compromise on cosmetic features.
If you want to talk capacity then have at it but of course clip size isn't the end game, that one is a squeeze play that shrinks the "reasonable" definition of "high capacity". I think they are, on average, at a consensus of five or less than a standard revolver which could be black powder. I'd say 30 is high capacity. I'd probably compromise to above 15. I'd tolerate above 10 but at this point I'm going to go with being ridiculous.
Neither is the target the nonsensical assault weapons ban (which they consistently fail to explain the impact other than the big goofy drums jamming and saving lives), what the end game is semi-automatics (of which I own none) and then on to multi-shot weapons down to granddad's double barrel.
Anytime one is dealing with a refusal to deal in specifics because of willful ignorance (often pridefully so) so then it is pretty much either insults or calls for "reasonable" restrictions with "reasonable" defined EXCLUSIVELY by the person or worse yet not defined at all other than "stopping this from ever happening again" aka magic.
When and if you drill down, the wash is semi-autos despite the protests because nothing else fits the bill.