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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:31 PM Jan 2018

I may catch hell for this but here goes anyway

This is the same Jeff Flake who voted against internet privacy and net neutrality.
Now he's complaining about Trump's derogatory words towards the press?

He's Stalin's helper no matter what he says.
Actions speak louder than words.

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I may catch hell for this but here goes anyway (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2018 OP
Hell yes!!!! pangaia Jan 2018 #1
I agree 100% Ohiogal Jan 2018 #2
Another one "on the fence" who flips BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #3
Thats the problem with republicans, They are hypocrites and cowards. shockey80 Jan 2018 #4
I think he's trying to set himself up for a GOP POTUS run. panader0 Jan 2018 #5
We already have ... 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #7
Yep not fooled Jan 2018 #24
He is absolutely planning on running for President in 2020. EarnestPutz Jan 2018 #31
Jeff Flake is not about to change. Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #6
Now that rethugs have their tax scam, i expect to see flamingprogressive Jan 2018 #30
Depending on which network their on, Republicans often give opposing views. procon Jan 2018 #8
Jeff Flake Calls Trump Stalin--Votes for Stalin 90.7% of the Time Stallion Jan 2018 #9
No argument from me. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #10
For Flake and Other Republicans, Watch What They Do, Not What They Say dlk Jan 2018 #11
Turtle said, "He'll sign anything we put in front of him." That's why, they with agendas use him UTUSN Jan 2018 #12
A saying I heard somewhere Nac Mac Feegle Jan 2018 #13
Flake, Graham and McCain TNNurse Jan 2018 #14
Flake is flaky HAB911 Jan 2018 #15
During these times, just remember.. the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. Nt moriah Jan 2018 #16
Thank you Bob Loblaw Jan 2018 #17
You're welcome SHRED Jan 2018 #41
Same flake who helped the shithole pass the tax scam and voted to kill Obamacare dalton99a Jan 2018 #18
They all voted for the tax bill. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #19
Thanks. It needs to be said. jalan48 Jan 2018 #20
I fear this also SHRED Jan 2018 #40
Any attack on Trump from any Republican is good for us. Kaleva Jan 2018 #21
If it is a republican, it is trouble. The worst are the "fakers" like Flake, McCain, and Graham NRaleighLiberal Jan 2018 #22
Let's face it. Most of the GOP is peeved because Trump is a very clear messenger. They would Raven123 Jan 2018 #23
"George Bush was a disaster"... czarjak Jan 2018 #25
dear wonderful brilliant SHRED jodymarie aimee Jan 2018 #26
Well thank you SHRED Jan 2018 #39
Yeah, he wants it both ways Augiedog Jan 2018 #27
Jeff Flake is a long-time libertarian, therefore very likely Hortensis Jan 2018 #28
Fuck him Skittles Jan 2018 #29
You are correct. Too little too late Flake Pepsidog Jan 2018 #32
When he joins Democrats to stop these terrible appointments mountain grammy Jan 2018 #33
I disagree. Speaking out is important. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #34
I don't know why you were worried about catching hell. bitterross Jan 2018 #35
Lives up to his name rpannier Jan 2018 #36
Flake's problem with Trump never seemed to be over substance DFW Jan 2018 #37
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #38
 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
4. Thats the problem with republicans, They are hypocrites and cowards.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

They are brave when it suits them. They also put party ahead of country.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
5. I think he's trying to set himself up for a GOP POTUS run.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

He's playing both ends against the middle.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
24. Yep
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jan 2018

the only reason he's trying to distance himself from dump is that he wants to run for other office. Governor or president.

He's just as horrible as the rest. No thanks.

And, as another poster points out below, the pukes continue--with the help of an enabling complicit media that refuses to speak the plain truth about the destruction of the New Deal--to push the governance of the country farther to the right.

Americans don't want your shitty agenda, flake--your party can win only by lying and cheating.



EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
31. He is absolutely planning on running for President in 2020.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jan 2018

His obligatory "my vision for America" book was published a
few months ago, he's a very conservative Mormon from Utah,
big photogenic family, only one wife who is pretty and not too
obsequious. Good looking guy, mature, when he looks in the
mirror while shaving he sees himself as the next president.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Jeff Flake is not about to change.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jan 2018

He has been and will always be a tight ass altra-conservative Politician. Curious as to who or what Lobbying Group he joins next year. Got a hunch and it will be Extractions related.

 
30. Now that rethugs have their tax scam, i expect to see
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jan 2018

more "retire," under the guise of spending more time with family, when in actuality, they will become high paid lobbyists, or sit on some high paying board

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Depending on which network their on, Republicans often give opposing views.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jan 2018

They pander to the viewers and say the sort of things they think the audience of each network wants to hear. They can't be pinned down or give their true position because its all variable depending on the current events in play at the moment. Flake is an expert at putting on a false front for the cameras and dissembling.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
11. For Flake and Other Republicans, Watch What They Do, Not What They Say
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jan 2018

Republican duplicity takes many forms.

UTUSN

(70,685 posts)
12. Turtle said, "He'll sign anything we put in front of him." That's why, they with agendas use him
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

FLAKE's agenda is PENCE's. FLAKE criticizes, PENCE doesn't - but they get their way while SHITLER is in place; they will get more of it without all the drama when he's gone.

jalan48

(13,863 posts)
20. Thanks. It needs to be said.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jan 2018

We are moving to a place where right wing Republicans are going to be considered reasonable and moderate by the media. The continued political shift to right will all but erase hard won, New Deal programs which were created under previous Democratic Administrations. Younger Americans will come to believe that 80's Republican policies are liberal in today's world.

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
21. Any attack on Trump from any Republican is good for us.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jan 2018

To attack or minimize those Repubs who on occasion voice opposition to Trump in one form or another but give a complete pass to Trump stooges like Pence makes me wonder.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
22. If it is a republican, it is trouble. The worst are the "fakers" like Flake, McCain, and Graham
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

they are doubly hypocritical and damaging. Collins too.

Raven123

(4,830 posts)
23. Let's face it. Most of the GOP is peeved because Trump is a very clear messenger. They would
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jan 2018

rather hide their message as "compassionate conservatives."

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
26. dear wonderful brilliant SHRED
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

we all agree with you....they are 2 faced shits. I feel the same about McCain.....while I am sorry he is sick, Rs get sick, too. Don't they? And he should know better. I will never forget what an ass he was to our Obama.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Jeff Flake is a long-time libertarian, therefore very likely
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jan 2018

the real thing, which means not only really believing he shouldn't have his money taxed away to benefit others but that a healthier, better society will result from requiring us all to live and die completely on our own.

Kind of like a romanticized version of Senegal, Honduras or Myanmar, where people have maximal personal freedom, families gather together to take care of each other, and all the survivors are stronger and happier for it. Hard to imagine, but perhaps he thinks white people will achieve a very different kind of third-worldiness.

He's what he is. Certainly no friend of ours just because occasionally his goals overlap briefly with ours.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
33. When he joins Democrats to stop these terrible appointments
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jan 2018

to judgeshitps and high level offices, then I'll believe he's against the traitor..

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. I disagree. Speaking out is important.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 10:20 PM
Jan 2018

He's a Republican. He votes Republican. No surprise there. But truth is truth, and speaking out in the current Republican environment is a fairly brave thing to do, knowing that Trump may try to ruin his life. Trump has already ruined his career.

It's important to note when people speak truth, esp when it goes against their self interest. That's rare in Washington these days.

But if Dems are going to excoriate every Republican who dares speak out, because they have behaved like Republicans in other ways, it's no wonder they don't speak out more.

No other Republican has said what he has said, that I know of. That's notable. And it's important it was said and is on the record for history. If that's not recognized, then the story goes, "The Republicans aren't criticizing what Trump said, the cowards!" but when they do the story is, "That Republican IS criticizing Trump, but that doesn't matter because he has voted for Republican bills!" Make up your minds. Do you WANT Republicans to call Trump out or not?

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
35. I don't know why you were worried about catching hell.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 11:42 PM
Jan 2018

You stated the truth. Flake, Corker, none of them are really helpful. They have been part of the problem. Nothing they do now is going to redeem them.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
37. Flake's problem with Trump never seemed to be over substance
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:33 AM
Jan 2018

Only style, and bad policy is still bad policy no matter if it comes like a rock thrown through the window or delivered in gift wrapping.

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