Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
3 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
What happens to Honolulu if hit by NK 150 KT nuclear missile? Detonation map here: (Original Post) Fred Sanders Jan 2018 OP
OK, bad enough, especially if you're there left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #1
No, it wouldn't cause them to detonate. Igel Jan 2018 #3
from where I live the drop on pearl harbor would be just a massive light show and msongs Jan 2018 #2

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. OK, bad enough, especially if you're there
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jan 2018

But I'm surprised it's not worse.

I wonder if it hit here in Albuquerque if it would detonate the nukes stored at the local air base?

Igel

(35,308 posts)
3. No, it wouldn't cause them to detonate.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

The fissile material has to be brought together without anything that would dampen the reaction. The detonation procedure removes the damping material and brings the masses together in the right way to produce critical mass and trigger the explosion. It's not an explosion that sets off the uranium, it's putting enough of the stuff together for neutrons of the right momentum to trigger the release of more neutrons which trigger the release of more neutrons. And every release of a neutron adds a bit more energy to the process. Get enough going at once in a chain reaction and Boom!

A nuclear explosion near the bombs would send some neutrons heading towards the concentrated uranium, but it wouldn't be enough to produce a problem unless the explosion happened really, really close. Neutron dispersal follows an inverse square law so even a small distance leads to a large decline in neutron exposure. And the neutron's would probably arrive before the blast wave, so the damping material would squelch the effect of even a large surge of neutrons.

A nuclear explosion would most likely destroy the means of removing the damping material; if extreme, it would scatter the fissile material. That would constitute a radiologic bomb, which means radioactive material would be spread around. But no big boom. And given the fall out from the bomb that did go boom, nobody would much care about that heavily radioactive site for a while, unless it got into the water supply.

We have some idea about how to deal with radiologic disasters. We have the experiences of Chernobyl and the 1950s Urals disaster (which was almost duplicated at Hanford, but the different hydrology saved our collective butt).

msongs

(67,405 posts)
2. from where I live the drop on pearl harbor would be just a massive light show and
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jan 2018

usually prevailing winds would blow fallout away from my area.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What happens to Honolulu ...