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highplainsdem

(48,974 posts)
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 11:23 PM Jan 2018

Inside the tense, profane White House meeting on immigration (must-read from WaPo tonight)

Lawrence O'Donnell just read some of this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-tense-profane-white-house-meeting-on-immigration/2018/01/15/13e79fa4-fa1e-11e7-8f66-2df0b94bb98a_story.html


When President Trump spoke by phone with Sen. Richard J. Durbin around 10:15 a.m. last Thursday, he expressed pleasure with Durbin’s outline of a bipartisan immigration pact and praised the high-ranking Illinois Democrat’s efforts, according to White House officials and congressional aides.

The president then asked if Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), his onetime foe turned ally, was on board, which Durbin affirmed. Trump invited the lawmakers to come visit with him at noon, the people familiar with the call said.

But when they arrived at the Oval Office, the two senators were surprised to find that Trump was far from ready to finalize the agreement. He was “fired up” and surrounded by hard-line conservatives such as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), who seemed confident that the president was now aligned with them, according to one person with knowledge of the meeting.

Trump told the group he wasn’t interested in the terms of the bipartisan deal that Durbin and Graham had been putting together. And as he shrugged off suggestions from Durbin and others, the president called nations from Africa “shithole countries,” denigrated Haiti and grew angry. The meeting was short, tense and often dominated by loud cross-talk and swearing, according to Republicans and Democrats familiar with the meeting.

Trump’s ping-ponging from dealmaking to feuding, from elation to fury, has come to define the contentious immigration talks between the White House and Congress, perplexing members of both parties as they navigate the president’s vulgarities, his combativeness and his willingness to suddenly change his position. The blowup has derailed those negotiations yet again and increased the possibility of a government shutdown over the fate of hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers.”

This account of the events surrounding Thursday’s explosive meeting is based on interviews with more than a dozen White House officials, Capitol Hill aides and lawmakers.

-snip-

Attendees who were alarmed by the racial undertones of Trump’s remarks were further disturbed when the topic of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) came up, these people said.

At one point, Durbin told the president that members of that caucus — an influential House group — would be more likely to agree to a deal if certain countries were included in the proposed protections, according to people familiar with the meeting.

Trump was curt and dismissive, saying he was not making immigration policy to cater to the CBC and did not particularly care about that bloc’s demands, according to people briefed on the meeting. “You’ve got to be joking,” one adviser said, describing Trump’s reaction.

-snip-

But some White House officials, including conservative adviser Stephen Miller, feared that Graham and Durbin would try to trick Trump into signing a bill that was damaging to him and would hurt him with his political base. As word trickled out Thursday morning on Capitol Hill that Durbin and Graham were heading over to the White House, legislative affairs director Marc Short began to make calls to lawmakers and shared many of Miller’s concerns.

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In the late morning, before Durbin and Graham arrived, Kelly — who had already been briefed on the deal — talked to Trump to tell him that the proposal would probably not be good for his agenda, White House officials said. Kelly, a former secretary of homeland security, has taken an increasingly aggressive and influential role in the immigration negotiations, calling lawmakers and meeting with White House aides daily — more than he has on other topics. He has “very strong feelings,” in the words of one official. But he’s not a lone voice. Trump in recent weeks has also been talking more to conservatives such as Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) on immigration, these people said.

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By Thursday evening, many White House aides were concerned that the story was exploding beyond the usual level for a Trump controversy, but they carried on with their plans for the night: a send-off for Deputy National Security Adviser Dina Powell, a former Goldman Sachs executive and ally of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. Nearly every top official ducked into the exclusive Italian restaurant Cafe Milano in Georgetown to toast Powell. There was little effort to significantly push back on the story that night because aides knew that Trump had said it and that the president wasn’t even too upset, according to people involved in the talks.

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Inside the tense, profane White House meeting on immigration (must-read from WaPo tonight) (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2018 OP
Ugh....Kelly. Laurian Jan 2018 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #2
Fuck Kelly... sfwriter Jan 2018 #3
I'm beginning to think Kelly is calling all the shots. Laurian Jan 2018 #5
From your mouth to the WSJ OpEd page... sfwriter Jan 2018 #6
As if we need another reason Cotton balls Cha Jan 2018 #4
Trump is just a pony on a stick. kacekwl Jan 2018 #7
Steven Miller and John Kelly. That's some evil shit, right there. Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #8
It all comes back to the fact that he knows NOTHING about the actual policies. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #9
He's acting as though this is a TV show. ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #17
The Fire and Fury books explains this. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #10
Kelly is another white nationalist, just like Nazi Noodle Miller. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #11
His political base? murielm99 Jan 2018 #12
An unstable president and horrifying court intrigue. nolabear Jan 2018 #13
Trump agrees with the last person he talked to TrogL Jan 2018 #14
Kelly is bigger racist than tRump benld74 Jan 2018 #15
Kelly and Miller are running the show dalton99a Jan 2018 #16
So we have a "president"..... SergeStorms Jan 2018 #18
Cotton wants to eliminate any type of immigration based on humane sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #19
Kicking, since this is what Lindsey Graham is talking about now. highplainsdem Jan 2018 #20
Der Shitler has to constantly be told what his stance or opinion should be and... Roland99 Jan 2018 #21
k for visibility riversedge Jan 2018 #22
 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
3. Fuck Kelly...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jan 2018

"In the late morning, before Durbin and Graham arrived, Kelly — who had already been briefed on the deal — talked to Trump to tell him that the proposal would probably not be good for his agenda, White House officials said."

OK, Kelly wants to play chicken, let's go.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
5. I'm beginning to think Kelly is calling all the shots.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:13 AM
Jan 2018

I think weak, lazy Donald will do anything Kelly tells him to do rather than engage in any deliberation needed to make a decision himself. The more I see of Trump, the more I believe he just doesn't give a shit about anything and is happy to let others make decisions for him.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
6. From your mouth to the WSJ OpEd page...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:19 AM
Jan 2018

...a few "President Kelly" editorials and he'll be gone.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
4. As if we need another reason Cotton balls
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:12 AM
Jan 2018

is Lying for trump.

And, why Lindsey Graham is backing Sen Durbin's version of what happened.

Next time arm yourselves with a recording device, Dems.. if they'd let you get in with it.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
7. Trump is just a pony on a stick.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:21 AM
Jan 2018

He is lead around by many other treasonous pricks . He's too dumb policywise to care.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
9. It all comes back to the fact that he knows NOTHING about the actual policies.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:24 AM
Jan 2018

It's all a game to him. So when Durbin and Graham struck a deal with each other, all he knew was that it was technically bipartisan and could give him an elusive "win." The policy itself means nothing to him. Even the stupid wall is meaningless to him, although the simplicity of the idea allows him to pivot back to it if he ever feels like he's offended the hardliners.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
17. He's acting as though this is a TV show.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:11 AM
Jan 2018

All he wants to know is, "how are the (my) ratings?" As per the Wolff book, he calls his billionaire buddies in the evenings to see how the day has played with them. So needy!

Everything he says or does is to get media attention and approval. Especially approval, since he feels he has been treated more unfairly than any other President, ever! Doesn't see that it needs to be EARNED. You don't get it for being an idiot.

And yes, actual policies don't matter. Details confuse and bore him. Anything not centered on himself bores him.

Besides all this, I think dementia is creeping into the equation. Being so self-contradictory is a sign. He doesn't remember what he agreed to the day before so starts over.



dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. The Fire and Fury books explains this.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:11 AM
Jan 2018

He literally takes the position of the last person he talks to. So it is typical that he said yes to Durbin, and got his mind changed before Durbin arrived at the WH.
We have been told this, over the past months, but I honestly could not grasp how the hell that could be so, until the book confirmed it. The guy is a shallow as a puddle on the floor.

Dina Powell is described in the book as a well known wealthy socialite who is known for helping people like Ivanka access the
who's who of upper crust society, making introductions, giving valuable information, etc. Very much a key person for Ivanka learning how to be with the "right" people, in the right places, etc.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
12. His political base?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:16 AM
Jan 2018

They seem very concerned about his "base." And who are they? Tiki-carrying extremists? Out of work people who hate everyone they think has ever slighted them? Who else? Are there any honest conservatives left?

I think their so-called base is shrinking daily.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
15. Kelly is bigger racist than tRump
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:45 AM
Jan 2018

Then add in the large foreheaded guy
And you got the trifecta of racists

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
18. So we have a "president".....
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:43 AM
Jan 2018

who's governing for 30-35% of the American people, and everyone else can go take a hike.

On November 6th the 65-70% of Americans NOT represented by this administration must make their voices heard.

Democrats and Independents MUST take back the House and Senate so we can stop those bastards in the White House from poisoning this country with their racism, xenophobia, and class warfare any further.
Then the assclowns in White House can sit and spin on their fascist agenda. Let's give them a taste of what it's like to be helpless in the face of power. THE PEOPLE'S POWER!

sinkingfeeling

(51,450 posts)
19. Cotton wants to eliminate any type of immigration based on humane
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jan 2018

reasons. No refugees. No keeping families together. No lottery entrants. He is urging the orange a**hole to cut legal immigration by 50% and do it based on 'skills'. He also demands all people who entered the US illegally be deported, no exceptions.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
21. Der Shitler has to constantly be told what his stance or opinion should be and...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jan 2018

whether he should be glad or mad about how things are progressing.

Complete and utter tool.

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