"The Trump Tax Cuts for the Rich Must, and Will, Be Repealed"

[Dawson Leery]

By Jonathan Chait (one of the original Blue Dog Democrats)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/the-trump-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-must-and-will-be-repealed.html

"Democrats have nothing to fear from making repeal of the Trump tax cuts for the rich a defining party plank. On the contrary, they have a great deal to gain. The bill is a cash grab by the wealthy, driven by the demands of the Republican donor base, and stuffed with targeted favors for insiders with lobbyists. Many more are sure to surface. The more they talk about it, the more Democrats can drive home the message that Trump’s economic populism was a fraud.

In the 2020 campaign, Democrats are inevitably going to propose new social spending. Reporters are inevitably going to ask them how they plan to pay for it. Republicans have given them an easy answer: Repeal the Trump tax cuts for the rich."

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. $15 an hour Walmart workers will be outraged if you repeal this, they dont want

their SS and Medicare saved, they dont want access to food stamps if they lose their job.

They must not since NOT repealing this means all that.

[Sophia4]

3. New ( the tax bill and high employment rates) average Walmart pay is $13.38 per hour

https://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2016/01/20/more-than-one-million-walmart-associates-receive-pay-increase-in-2016

Uniting Democrats and getting Democrats out to vote is the only way to end the tax cuts for the very, very rich and make America compassionate and just.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. I probably should know that most people there dont make $15 an hour.

The remarkable thing is the GOP is admitting they wanna take SS and they get elected anyway.

[Sophia4]

6. I don't understand that.

Don't voters realize that without Social Security is the reason their parents don't have to live with them?

Don't they realize that without Social Security, the young would have to take care of their parents anyway?

That is the way in traditional societies. There is no way to get out of the obligation to take care of the old who no longer have jobs and cannot do a lot very fast any more.

Social Security is a necessity in our society. We don't build houses that hold three to four generations any more.

[mgardener]

13. Is health care included?

I dont see health insurance mentioned at all.
Just short term disability.

[cstanleytech]

16. Not down here in Augusta Georgia it isnt or atleast I know someone thats

full time and they have been with them for years yet they only earn $10.60 an hour.

[Hoyt]

2. Going to be tougher argument than you think if you expect to attract GOPers and GOPer leaners.

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Lots of non-rich folks will see some extra money in their paychecks and will laugh at the long-term cost to society.

Not saying they are right, just that it's the way it is. Besides, as long a trump is talking racist junk, many folks won't care if some money is going to the rich.

[Sophia4]

9. It isn't a matter of long-term cost to society.

It is a matter of long-term cost to young people who, in the absence of Social Security checks, would have to pay the living costs of their parents -- and would have to live witth their elderly parents, Alzheimers or not.

I remember a radio program that I heard many years ago in Austria. Before modern pension and social security programs there, the widows who inherited nothing when their husbands' farms went to the eldest son or the children, used to travel around all year from the household of one child to the household of another. The widows were impoverished and completely dependent on the generosity of their children for their daily bread and a roof over their heads. No one child could house mother all the time, so the mothers, elderly women, would travel from the house of one child to the other.

In the past, some states (including California) had laws that required children to take care of their indigent, elderly parents. Some of those laws probably still exist. If parents can't take care of themselves, the burden does not fall solely on society as a whole, it falls on the children of the parents to pay the costs including medical care and housing and food for the aging parents.

So people would be very foolish to end or cut Social Security. Just when you want to try to help your son or daughter go to college, you have to spend a lot for the heart operation or for the nursing home for your parents. Doing it together as a society through Social Security and Medicare is much better -- cheaper in the long run.

[Hoyt]

11. All that has been going on for decades, yet voters still voted for a buffoon racist. And there is

And there is no reason to think they won't in 2018 and 2020, although we can hope and be positive that people will come to their senses. Based upon the election of trump and the dominance of GOPers at the state level, our only chance is to get out the vote.

[Sophia4]

15. No serious politician has dared to challenge the importance and usefulness of

Social Security and Medicare.

Medicare was passed during LBJ's term, within my lifetime.

It covers medical costs at their highest. No one would be able to afford health insurance if it weren't for the fact that Medicare, paid out of tax revenue, covers our care when most of us need the most medical care -- in our final years and months.

[lagomorph777]

17. Why would we bother with Deplorables? They can go fuck themselves - in fact they just did in 2016.

Turn out the majority (liberals, moderate liberals, women, people of color) and let the tiny tribe of idiots vote for their favorite porn stars or TV personalities.

[Dawson Leery]

4. kick

[workinclasszero]

7. Couple it with a 15 dollar an hour federal minimum wage, single payer...

And the legalization of cannabis for medical and recreation nationwide.

The economy will explode with jobs and take off like a rocket!

And it will benefit the average American not just the 1%!

[Dawson Leery]

8. +1,000,000

[workinclasszero]

10. If the democratic party got behind this 100% and passed it into law

It would destroy the republican party for a generation at least if not totally kill it.

The majority of the american people are for these things! Why are the political party's in a democratically elected government the last to do what the people want??

That gives you a clue as to who is running the show in the USA I guess.

[Abouttime]

18. Totally right

Taxes on the rich, capital gains and corporate taxes should be 50%.
Profits split equally between those that earn them and society that provides the infrastructure and market.

[burnbaby]

12. I'm holding out until

February when I see my paycheck

[BobTheSubgenius]

14. There is hardly an issue more urgent than this one.

Although you could certainly make the case that there are several others at the very top of that list.

[Dawson Leery]

19. kick