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niyad

(113,302 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:12 PM Jan 2018

Republican Lady Explains Good Fathers Stop Gun Crime. RFK's Son Chris Kennedy Says Go Fuck Yourself

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Republican Lady Explains Good Fathers Stop Gun Crime. RFK’s Son Chris Kennedy Says Go Fuck Yourself

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He might know a thing or two about gun crime.

Chris Kennedy, the son of Robert F. Kennedy, is running for the Democratic nomination for Illinois governor this year. Rep. Jeanne Ives is primarying current Governor Bruce Rauner from the right. And at a candidate forum Monday night, offered her prescription for the problem of guns in Illinois:
The problem is the gun violence in this city of Chicago, predominantly. And you know how you’re going to solve it? Fathers in the home.
The audience booed, and Ives repeated, confidently, “Fathers in the home.”

When it was Kennedy’s turn to speak, his reply was short and simple: “Well, I wish I could agree with you. I didn’t have a father in my life. Somebody shot him,” Kennedy said. And then he got up and left the forum, getting a standing ovation. He hadn’t yet reached the age of five when his father was assassinated the night he won the California presidential primary in 1968.
Hell of a way to mark Martin Luther King Day, Rep. Ives. If only he’d had a father to prevent gun violence, too, huh? As he left the forum, Kennedy said,
You know, some stuff hits a raw nerve and, um, I think that should be a debate about great ideas, a clash, and not one of emotions […]
But when I hear such ignorance and stupidity aired out by someone who knows so little about so much, I don’t think there’s an appropriate place for them to be on a podium on a dais with other people who have given these issues thought and have the emotional capacity to be empathetic at the same time.

Kennedy later told the Chicago NBC affiliate,
I lost my father to someone with a gun. For someone to say simply the solution is to have a father-in-law – I don’t know. How shall I react? What should my family have done?
Clearly, his lack of a strong male role model left him unable to deal with simple facts about guns and character from an upstanding moral scold Republican lady.

Ives scored something of a threefer, since Kennedy’s running mate, Ra Joy, had a son murdered with a gun during a mugging, and one of the other Democratic candidates, J.B. Pritzker, also lost his father when he was seven years old, to a heart attack. He stayed at the debate, but told the Chicago Tribune,
I don’t know what was going through Chris’s head other than I can only imagine the grief that he feels when he thinks of his father’s death.

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https://wonkette.com/628360/republican-lady-explains-good-fathers-stop-gun-crime-rfks-son-chris-kennedy-says-go-fuck-yourself

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Republican Lady Explains Good Fathers Stop Gun Crime. RFK's Son Chris Kennedy Says Go Fuck Yourself (Original Post) niyad Jan 2018 OP
Here ya go.... from the GOP cookie cutter, Rep. Jeanne Ives CurtEastPoint Jan 2018 #1
gee, are we in the least surprised? niyad Jan 2018 #2
Proof that a woman can be an ignorant asshole Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #3
To be fair... here is the male version of said cookie cutter. Behold... CurtEastPoint Jan 2018 #5
If this is ignorance, it is willful. No, this is dog whistling that the problem is black people. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #16
DING DING DING!!! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #22
Guess you could be correct Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #25
No, combining the reference to Chicago with the importance of a father "in the home" is Nitram Jan 2018 #28
Agree on that. Ignorant about Kennedy was what struck me. Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #29
And here's v1 of cookie cutter. Remember Mean Jean Schmidt from OH? CurtEastPoint Jan 2018 #8
Ive never seen so many lip wrinkles Norbert10 Jan 2018 #10
She could screw her Scarsdale Jan 2018 #11
The dump can pucker up pretty good, too. We call him The Sphincter. erronis Jan 2018 #24
Nice 1960s hairdo. Or it it a toupee? George II Jan 2018 #15
West Wing reference Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #4
Saw that right away as well! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2018 #21
Wow, good for Chris Kennedy. MLAA Jan 2018 #6
Example of one side are mature, intelligent, educated, thoughtful adults, the other side Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #7
so true here bluestarone Jan 2018 #9
and this... handmade34 Jan 2018 #12
The problem with that is they'll just fill the room with Breitbart, Fox, Drudge, StormFront. marble falls Jan 2018 #31
jeannie ives is a nutbag, but i am glad she is running. mopinko Jan 2018 #13
Perfect response. Don't know much about her, but I'm sure she's a rich lily white woman. George II Jan 2018 #14
The repugs are all the same out that way . She does not want two fathers either against gay marriage lunasun Jan 2018 #27
Knowing people like Ms. Ives, Doc_Technical Jan 2018 #17
He's an example: Palin. Track, from a god-fearing family, I presume. CharleyDog Jan 2018 #18
Nice Catch Charley ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #19
The NRA and hardcore racists use Chicago as their whipping boy. Initech Jan 2018 #23
Go Chris! Initech Jan 2018 #20
If that stupid bitch knew who he was she is just hateful. TNNurse Jan 2018 #26
I suspect that you are quite correct. niyad Jan 2018 #30

CurtEastPoint

(18,643 posts)
5. To be fair... here is the male version of said cookie cutter. Behold...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jan 2018

Matt Gaetz. Pasty, doughy, pudgeball. Smug prick.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
16. If this is ignorance, it is willful. No, this is dog whistling that the problem is black people.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

And the irony, these second amendment racist nutjobs don't want black people to have guns.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
22. DING DING DING!!!
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

"A rhetorical shot at black people" is exactly what occurred to be as I read that. If her comment had gone over well, instead of being the giant turd in the punch bowl that it actually was, she might well have followed it up with some "Welfare Queen" leftovers from the 80's.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
25. Guess you could be correct
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jan 2018

Seems to me she might have just been trying to stick with tried and true family values pro-gun anti-abortion GOP talking points. She is trying to wrestle the nomination from Rauner. Sounds like she did not have much else...like Palin ignorance. She might not have really known that Kennedy is that “Kennedy”. The double down invoking Obama was really stupid.

Think she represents DuPage county, so she knows Chicago better than downstate rural reps. Much of DuPage is wealthy and conservative (Henry Hyde country).

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
28. No, combining the reference to Chicago with the importance of a father "in the home" is
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:57 AM - Edit history (1)

the clearest of dog whistles.

MLAA

(17,288 posts)
6. Wow, good for Chris Kennedy.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

He and his family (and thousands and thousands of families like his) have really paid the price for others’ ignorance.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
7. Example of one side are mature, intelligent, educated, thoughtful adults, the other side
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

ignorant racist assholes.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
12. and this...
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:22 PM
Jan 2018

Kennedy: “the Republican Party allowed Donald Trump to say racist and simplistic things.”

Kennedy argued that Republicans should have vacated the stage in protest like he did when he heard “simplistic solutions to tragic problems.”


Wonkette: Sounds good to us. Maybe this will catch on, and the next time Sarah Huckabee Sanders starts lying, the White House press room will just silently file out.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
13. jeannie ives is a nutbag, but i am glad she is running.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jan 2018

she leaves her district open, and there is a blue wave coming.
she was my sister's rep.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. The repugs are all the same out that way . She does not want two fathers either against gay marriage
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jan 2018

Ives stated in an interview that same-sex marriages are a “completely disordered relationship” and said LGBT people were trying to “weasel their way” into normalacy
She went on to describe marriage equality for same-sex couples as a gateway to “redefine society” in a way that would have a lasting impact on children in particular.
She will probably beat Rauner in the R primary, even repugs hate him now

Doc_Technical

(3,526 posts)
17. Knowing people like Ms. Ives,
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

there is the possibility that this person knew what
she was saying and did so with the intent of
trying to get Chris Kennedy's goat and then claim
ignorance.

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
18. He's an example: Palin. Track, from a god-fearing family, I presume.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:39 PM
Jan 2018

Not only beat up his father, threatened him with a gun, and has a history of gun threatening toward his ex-wife. But of course we know this Jean Ives is referring to the Black community using popular Republican lies that Black families lack a father. Dog whistles for racist hate, the how-to for winning Republican votes.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
23. The NRA and hardcore racists use Chicago as their whipping boy.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jan 2018

Because they use Chicago's out of control gun violence as a reason why liberal anti gun policies fail - despite that the city hasn't been run by liberals in the last 20 years. Because reasons.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
26. If that stupid bitch knew who he was she is just hateful.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jan 2018

If she did not know who he is, she is ignorant. I suspect she is both.

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