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Republican Lady Explains Good Fathers Stop Gun Crime. RFKs Son Chris Kennedy Says Go Fuck Yourself
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He might know a thing or two about gun crime.
Chris Kennedy, the son of Robert F. Kennedy, is running for the Democratic nomination for Illinois governor this year. Rep. Jeanne Ives is primarying current Governor Bruce Rauner from the right. And at a candidate forum Monday night, offered her prescription for the problem of guns in Illinois:
The problem is the gun violence in this city of Chicago, predominantly. And you know how youre going to solve it? Fathers in the home.
The audience booed, and Ives repeated, confidently, Fathers in the home.
When it was Kennedys turn to speak, his reply was short and simple: Well, I wish I could agree with you. I didnt have a father in my life. Somebody shot him, Kennedy said. And then he got up and left the forum, getting a standing ovation. He hadnt yet reached the age of five when his father was assassinated the night he won the California presidential primary in 1968.
Hell of a way to mark Martin Luther King Day, Rep. Ives. If only hed had a father to prevent gun violence, too, huh? As he left the forum, Kennedy said,
You know, some stuff hits a raw nerve and, um, I think that should be a debate about great ideas, a clash, and not one of emotions [
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But when I hear such ignorance and stupidity aired out by someone who knows so little about so much, I dont think theres an appropriate place for them to be on a podium on a dais with other people who have given these issues thought and have the emotional capacity to be empathetic at the same time.
Kennedy later told the Chicago NBC affiliate,
I lost my father to someone with a gun. For someone to say simply the solution is to have a father-in-law I dont know. How shall I react? What should my family have done?
Clearly, his lack of a strong male role model left him unable to deal with simple facts about guns and character from an upstanding moral scold Republican lady.
Ives scored something of a threefer, since Kennedys running mate, Ra Joy, had a son murdered with a gun during a mugging, and one of the other Democratic candidates, J.B. Pritzker, also lost his father when he was seven years old, to a heart attack. He stayed at the debate, but told the Chicago Tribune,
I dont know what was going through Chriss head other than I can only imagine the grief that he feels when he thinks of his fathers death.
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https://wonkette.com/628360/republican-lady-explains-good-fathers-stop-gun-crime-rfks-son-chris-kennedy-says-go-fuck-yourself
CurtEastPoint
(18,643 posts)niyad
(113,302 posts)Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,643 posts)Matt Gaetz. Pasty, doughy, pudgeball. Smug prick.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And the irony, these second amendment racist nutjobs don't want black people to have guns.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)"A rhetorical shot at black people" is exactly what occurred to be as I read that. If her comment had gone over well, instead of being the giant turd in the punch bowl that it actually was, she might well have followed it up with some "Welfare Queen" leftovers from the 80's.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)Seems to me she might have just been trying to stick with tried and true family values pro-gun anti-abortion GOP talking points. She is trying to wrestle the nomination from Rauner. Sounds like she did not have much else...like Palin ignorance. She might not have really known that Kennedy is that Kennedy. The double down invoking Obama was really stupid.
Think she represents DuPage county, so she knows Chicago better than downstate rural reps. Much of DuPage is wealthy and conservative (Henry Hyde country).
Nitram
(22,800 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:57 AM - Edit history (1)
the clearest of dog whistles.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,643 posts)Norbert10
(61 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)hat on to protect it from the wind!!
erronis
(15,241 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)MLAA
(17,288 posts)He and his family (and thousands and thousands of families like his) have really paid the price for others ignorance.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)ignorant racist assholes.
bluestarone
(16,930 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)Kennedy: the Republican Party allowed Donald Trump to say racist and simplistic things.
Kennedy argued that Republicans should have vacated the stage in protest like he did when he heard simplistic solutions to tragic problems.
Wonkette: Sounds good to us. Maybe this will catch on, and the next time Sarah Huckabee Sanders starts lying, the White House press room will just silently file out.
marble falls
(57,081 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)she leaves her district open, and there is a blue wave coming.
she was my sister's rep.
George II
(67,782 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Ives stated in an interview that same-sex marriages are a completely disordered relationship and said LGBT people were trying to weasel their way into normalacy
She went on to describe marriage equality for same-sex couples as a gateway to redefine society in a way that would have a lasting impact on children in particular.
She will probably beat Rauner in the R primary, even repugs hate him now
Doc_Technical
(3,526 posts)there is the possibility that this person knew what
she was saying and did so with the intent of
trying to get Chris Kennedy's goat and then claim
ignorance.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)Not only beat up his father, threatened him with a gun, and has a history of gun threatening toward his ex-wife. But of course we know this Jean Ives is referring to the Black community using popular Republican lies that Black families lack a father. Dog whistles for racist hate, the how-to for winning Republican votes.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)I think you nailed it. We all know EXACTLY what she means.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Because they use Chicago's out of control gun violence as a reason why liberal anti gun policies fail - despite that the city hasn't been run by liberals in the last 20 years. Because reasons.
Initech
(100,068 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)If she did not know who he is, she is ignorant. I suspect she is both.