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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:38 PM Jan 2018

So babies born in the 9th month are bad now??




“Right now, in a number of states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the ninth month. It is wrong. It has to change.”

Genuinely confused by this. (via ABC)
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So babies born in the 9th month are bad now?? (Original Post) RockaFowler Jan 2018 OP
The new law is that you have to keep it stuffed up there Crunchy Frog Jan 2018 #1
Think of all the elementary school lunches that will save! OriginalGeek Jan 2018 #39
....or get drafted for military service. lastlib Jan 2018 #40
his or her mother's womb? malaise Jan 2018 #2
Men have wombs, who knew!!! SummerSnow Jan 2018 #27
And he passed a cognitive function test? marylandblue Jan 2018 #3
#45 can't tell the difference between "born" and "torn", I think... k8conant Jan 2018 #4
Oh, good call. I prefer it when they say "ripped," myself. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #8
He's too vain to wear his glasses and read correctly. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #13
The White House Transcript Editor Will Get Right on That Stallion Jan 2018 #5
What a fucking moron. n/t MontanaMama Jan 2018 #6
Sowrah Slanders will straighten it out. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #7
Was Tiffany there? underpants Jan 2018 #9
Good one!!! sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #25
Further evidence that when he reads a prepared speech The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #10
I guess they want early C-sections for everyone? haele Jan 2018 #11
probably meant 'torn' electron_blue Jan 2018 #12
Maybe, but his fixation with porn might have been a Freudian slip LeftInTX Jan 2018 #16
He was focusing on "porn" and out came "born" LeftInTX Jan 2018 #14
He is so confused Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #15
I think you mean the 40 weeks are counted from the first day PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #20
Thanks! Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #26
Plus, most women's cycles are not all that perfect. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #32
The offical video on twitler's twitter account has been edited to remove this. Yonnie3 Jan 2018 #17
It makes sense, it's the only time republicans seem to care about children... Salviati Jan 2018 #18
Exactly. Ohiogal Jan 2018 #36
chumpy Got His "Facts" Wrong Leith Jan 2018 #19
Dead center in the fairway gratuitous Jan 2018 #22
I Had to Reply Leith Jan 2018 #24
It's horrifying to what extent some people think that women PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #21
Also that people think Runningdawg Jan 2018 #33
Thank you for sharing that Ohiogal Jan 2018 #37
Ain't that the truth. Ohiogal Jan 2018 #38
And you need to wonder if those birthing zealots PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #43
That blithering idiot just described a c-section meow2u3 Jan 2018 #23
Welcome to my world. My sister-in-law is part of all this misanthrope Jan 2018 #34
Some Med People Believe A 10 Month Gestation Is Better Me. Jan 2018 #28
Yes, it's bullshit that people are allowed to be born in September petronius Jan 2018 #29
Our President - The stable genius thbobby Jan 2018 #30
They don't even know what they are protesting anymore! Initech Jan 2018 #31
The Best Words moondust Jan 2018 #35
Yes, most babies. What a bizarre statement. LeftishBrit Jan 2018 #41
They love to tell you "Abortion stops a beating heart!" Ohiogal Jan 2018 #42

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
39. Think of all the elementary school lunches that will save!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jan 2018

by college, kid can buy their own damn lunch.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
40. ....or get drafted for military service.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jan 2018

new GOP program: Wombs to Bombs. Just cut out all that needless edjicashun we have to pay taxes for, and give 'em to the war machine. Problems solved.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
4. #45 can't tell the difference between "born" and "torn", I think...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jan 2018

"torn" is anti-abortion-speak in this context.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
5. The White House Transcript Editor Will Get Right on That
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jan 2018

seems like president Bumbler has been really bad in last few weeks

haele

(12,650 posts)
11. I guess they want early C-sections for everyone?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jan 2018

Or was this just garbling when discussing Operation Rescue's mythical "last minute" abortion where women supposedly decide to have an abortion at the first hint of a contraction and rip a live fetus to shreds rather than go through with a live birth a day or two later.
Or maybe the father decides it and the mother just lets her man rule her body.

But it's still all about the fear of that supposed White Race Genocide - they need more fair skinned, blue eyed, blond kids to ensure all those untermenchen stay in their places and don't breed with their properly Nordic/Anglo-Saxon wimmin-property.

Haele

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
15. He is so confused
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

A full-term pregnancy is 40 weeks but that is counting from the first day of your first missed period. Since you aren't usually fertile until mid-cycle 38 weeks is considered actual time pregnant. Late pre- term is 36 weeks and babies born then do well. In cases where the mother or baby's well-being is in jeopardy a c-section may be done then, think preclampsia.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
20. I think you mean the 40 weeks are counted from the first day
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jan 2018

of your last period. Not the first missed period.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
26. Thanks!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

I stand corrected. That would be why it's really 38 weeks pregnant. I never had children so it's all a little weird to me.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
32. Plus, most women's cycles are not all that perfect.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jan 2018

I recall many years ago reading that someone had asked women to keep track of the first day of each period for about a year, and even those who claimed they never varied at all, really did have variations in the cycle. Which means you only can know for sure exactly when you started, and perhaps when you ended, depending on just how that happens for you, and can at best anticipate within a few days to a week when you ought to start.

I was never that obsessed with knowing exactly when I had my period or when it was due, so both times I was pregnant I had to give my best guess as to when the last period had started.

I'm sure this is all too much information for many people.

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
17. The offical video on twitler's twitter account has been edited to remove this.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jan 2018

It appears to have three or four edits, I'm wondering what else had to be removed.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
18. It makes sense, it's the only time republicans seem to care about children...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:04 PM
Jan 2018

before they are born. It's clear that they don't give a rats ass about them afterwards.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
19. chumpy Got His "Facts" Wrong
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

There are almost no late term abortions happening to healthy mothers or fetuses.

From USA Today:

Q: Why would anyone get a late-term abortion?

A: While data are sparse, women who have shared their stories during legislative debates and the current campaign often cite severe fetal abnormalities, discovered late by ultrasound or genetic tests, or a health crisis for the woman.

Virtually all abortions past 24 weeks are performed for “very severe” birth defects, Jen Gunter, a San Francisco obstetrician and gynecologist, wrote in a blog post.
.
.
.
A: A federal law has banned partial-birth abortions since 2003, allowing exceptions when a woman’s life, but not health, is in danger. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law in 2007.


He's talking about something that just does not happen to rile the ignorant rubes.


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Dead center in the fairway
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jan 2018

This is precisely what the forced-birth movement is talking about, and President Shithole can't even get the bogus facts they rely on correct. But in their fevered little minds, there is an endless parade of women trooping into Planned Parenthood clinics across the land to have a 40 week abortion just to piss off conservative dumbasses who saw a bootleg Beatles album cover once, and think that represents reality.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
24. I Had to Reply
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:21 PM
Jan 2018



Trump is lying. What he is talking about has been illega in the US since 2003.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/10/21/doctors-trump-wrong-late-abortions/92515324/


Jeeze, I don't like to tweet, but I can NOT let obvious lies just go unanswered.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
21. It's horrifying to what extent some people think that women
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jan 2018

just suddenly decide, "Oh, what the heck. I think I'll have an abortion today."

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
33. Also that people think
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jan 2018

there are abortions taking place behind closed doors in every Dr office, ER, free clinic and hospital and that the workers were somehow tricked into working there against their will to provide those abortions.
I am a retired nurse but at one time in my career I worked in a high-risk labor and delivery unit. Only ONCE in 4 years was an abortion performed there. The patient, in her 26th week, was near death from sickle cell crisis and the baby she carried had Trisomy 13, a chromosomal condition associated with severe intellectual disability and physical abnormalities in many parts of the body.
Even though most of the nurses in that unit were Christians, not a single nurse refused to participate in her care and the mother's life was saved.

Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
38. Ain't that the truth.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jan 2018

If I hear one more birthin' zealot say " too many women use abortion for birth control" .....

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
23. That blithering idiot just described a c-section
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jan 2018

It isn't an abortion at 9 months, doofus--it's a c-section and the kids are typically born alive!!

The stupidity of it all--and those so-called "pro-lifers" buy this bullshit.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
34. Welcome to my world. My sister-in-law is part of all this
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jan 2018

The Roman Catholic high school she sends her kids to -- her husband wanted them to go to the public high school closer to the house but she couldn't stand the social shame of having kids in public school -- has organized trips for their students to take part in this march the last few years. She is up there right now with the youngest of her brood.

They believe whole-heartedly in all this gobbledy-gook.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
29. Yes, it's bullshit that people are allowed to be born in September
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

There's so much else going on that month, babies are an obnoxious distraction.

No more September babies! Ban (most) Virgos! Down with (some) Libras!

Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
42. They love to tell you "Abortion stops a beating heart!"
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jan 2018

Well, yeah, so does capital punishment.

So does euthanizing unwanted animals.

And, most of all, so does draconian health care policy that prevents access to proper medical care for many new moms and babies, particularly poor ones. My state, Ohio, has an abysmal record in this regard. We are near or at the bottom out of all 50 states in regards to infant mortality. In some large cities, infant mortality numbers are akin to a third world country. Isn't that unbelievable?!

Why don't pro-lifers rally to demand access to medical care for ALL mothers and babies?! You never hear them addressing this issue at all.. no -- it's all about force birth with them.

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