Sen. Schumer: I Offered Trump 'The Border Wall' And He Turned Me Down

[UCmeNdc]

After the Senate failed to reach a bipartisan deal on funding the government, Sen. Schumer took to the floor and laid the blame at the feet of Donald Trump, saying he even offered up the border wall for a deal and he was turned down.

Sen. Schumer began by telling the country Republicans can't govern and then spoke most directly to Trump.

Sen. Schumer said, "It's almost as if you were rooting for a shutdown and now we'll have one and the blame should crash entirely on President Trump's shoulders. This will be called the Trump shutdown."


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/01/sen-schumer-i-offered-trump-border-wall

[Freedomofspeech]

1. Why would he offer the border wall?

[Demsrule86]

4. To save the DACA kids for heavens sake. I would too.

[Progressive dog]

6. To save 700,000 brought here as children and raised as Americans

from deportation. Besides, Schumer probably knew the wall wouldn't be enough to satisfy a psychopath.

[eleny]

11. Because he believed that Trump would turn it down

Schumer and Trump are both New Yorkers. Schumer has had a successful political presence in New York and in the Congress for decades. He achieved leadership of the Senate. Trump has had one failure after another.

Schumer has Trump's number. Sure, it could be viewed as a risk to offer the wall. But I think Schumer read Trump correctly. I think that Schumer believed that Trump would fold his arms and refuse.

Now we have major talking points:
Trump even refused the wall.
The president only wants chaos.
Trump shut the government down.
All of the above are true.

[krawhitham]

16. This, Obama did the same with Boehner a few times

But Obama got nothing but yelled at here on DU when he did it

[m3n0z]

18. Why? Catch22

Trump rejects deal - owns shutdown

Trump takes deal -
Daca stays and Trump gets the wall when mexico pays for it. (aka no wall)

Smooth move by schumer.

We'll see if Trump can wiggle his way out of owning the shutdown.

[Frustratedlady]

2. Why would he offer that horrendously expensive wall?

That's about as useless as teats on a boar. No matter how high, they'll figure out a way to scale it and we'd end up with money down the drain.

[Archae]

3. Or tunnel under it.

Besides, they'll just go around it, that's why we need the Coast guard...oops, Trump wants to cut their budget as well.

[Demsrule86]

5. Save the DACA kids? It would have been worth it.

[Dave Starsky]

9. Trump is using the DACA kids as hostages.

The problem with giving into hostage-takers' demands is that they tend to keep doing it to get everything else they could possibly want.

We need to demand that Trump leave the DACA kids alone AND shove his wall up his ass. In return, he won't be viewed forever as the dumbest and most incompetent President who ever squatted in the office.

[m3n0z]

22. Hostages?

I haven't heard of him demanding a ransom to secure the right to stay. And rejecting schumer's offer looks like a clear indication that Trump intends nothing short of deportation without the possibility of return.

But I did understand what you were saying.
Unfortunately, he is holding all the cards. He doesn't have to demand anything. He can just refuse to alter course until everyone is desperate enough to beg for mere crymbs of their original ask.

[Frustratedlady]

10. I'm all for saving the DACA kids, that's a given, but Schumer had the upper hand.

Trump needed the Democrats, not the other way around. Am I wrong? He was losing Republicans...even heard McConnell voted with the Democrats for procedural issues? Whatever that meant.

When you are negotiating and one has messed his pants in anticipation, let him sit in it. Don't try to give him what he wants. We already knew he was a loser and couldn't be trusted, so Schumer didn't have to prove anything to anyone. Let him wallow in his misery. Besides, he had a big party to go to, so he didn't have time to bargain...he had to clean up his mess.

Tell me what I missed?

[Demsrule86]

14. I thought Schumer did just fine...perhaps I posted to the wrong person...I am glad Schumer held

strong. But, I would have given the shitty money for the wall to the loser GOP to have it over...everyday thousands of kids lose their DACA status. We do not have the upper hand because the GOP has no intention of voting for DACA. They are trying to string us along and than will do nothing.

[treestar]

19. Yes. The Donald using them as a bargaining trip is the

real offense here. The DACA is just doing the right thing by young people who had no hand in doing anything wrong, combined with the fact we do not enforce the immigration laws on purpose to have an exploitable work force.

[eleny]

12. See my response to the OP above in reply #11

[Retrograde]

17. Or come in legally and overstay their visas

or come in via Canada. Or take a boat from the Caribbean. Trump and his ilk forget that not all undocumented aliens come from Mexico: there are as many if not more from Asia and Europe.

[nolabear]

21. Because it'll never happen.

They can up the technology a bit, train some more patrols, yaddayadda, he can declare that Mexico will eventually pay for it and Mueller will keep working.

[nocalflea]

7. Offering the wall was certainly one way to see if Trump was truly interested in averting this shutdown.

Trump wanted the shutdown more than his precious wall.

Who interest is Trump serving ?

[Demsrule86]

15. It is about deporting the DACA kids that is what all the GOP want...which is why they used CHIP.

[meow2u3]

8. The Racist-in-chief wants what he wants the way he wants it

and that's all there is to it--as if he were "elected" dictator or king instead of president.

His--and repukes'--idea of negotiation is that he gets absolutely everything the GOP wants and then turn around and blame Democrats for refusing to capitulate.

Democrats are sick of being Charlie Brown to repukes' Lucy with the football!

[marlakay]

13. I am almost wondering if he did this for media

This weekend, I don’t see anything about the marches all about shut down.

I bet they sign something Monday when they are over yesterdays news.

[roamer65]

20. The Dump Shutdown.