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forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 01:17 PM Jan 2018

Shut up, McTurtle - McConnell talking now on MSNBC

You are shocked, shocked that Democrats dig in their heels to prevent bad legislation. Wonder where they learned that technique. Boo hoo, Pokey Turtle tears.

"The solution is to end the foolishness"... Uh huh. Supreme Court pick delayed for nearly a year. Turnabout is fair play.

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Shut up, McTurtle - McConnell talking now on MSNBC (Original Post) forgotmylogin Jan 2018 OP
Why not bypass democrats using reconciliation? unblock Jan 2018 #1
If they hadn't been dead on the stick, they could have avoided this strategically. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #3
When you go all or nothing and shut out your opponent from negotiations Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #2
Which end of his shell did they interview? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #4

unblock

(52,209 posts)
1. Why not bypass democrats using reconciliation?
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jan 2018

Oh right, it’s because republicans are irresponsible and refuse to even pass a budget resolution because they don’t want to admit that their tax heist blew a trillion dollar hole in the budget.

*that* is the foolishness they should end.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
3. If they hadn't been dead on the stick, they could have avoided this strategically.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

The Republican-controlled government let CHIP expire, which from what I understand was just a formality of bringing it forward and agreeing to sign the papers to fund it for another period of time. They were so concerned with ACA and taxes that this fell under the wheels. If they'd just done it with aforethought, it wouldn't be a problem now.

DACA wasn't a problem, but 45 vindictively likes undoing everything Obama was responsible for. It was just a measure for show for his base. I compared it to pulling out a working cork in the dam that was preventing a leak. Now they're up to their knees in murky water. They were like "Fuck this cork and Obama's executive measures that are easily undone! Okay, how are we going to stop this water? Anyone? Anyone?"

It's like a juggler who already has ten balls in the air, ShitShow decides why not throw in a running chainsaw, a rake, and a bowling ball along with it - it's not like he has to do the juggling himself. He can't even plan one step ahead. If this were a cooperative video game and one player decided to break open the crates full of poisonous snakes while the party is already fighting an 800-pound gorilla, you'd kick him off the team.

Freethinker65

(10,017 posts)
2. When you go all or nothing and shut out your opponent from negotiations
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jan 2018

You should be able to accept and take responsibility if you get NOTHING.

Yes, you were able to effectively steal a Supreme Court seat from the opposition by being an unethical partisan unconstitutional asshole, but that does not always work.

You are an idiot to expect the Democratic Party to help you govern when you control all three branches of the government and refuse to allow the Democratic Party’s input during bill negotiations. Continuing to pass CRs is a sign of failed leadership. Attaching CHIP to a crappy partisan kick the can down the road for a few weeks/months bill is a sign of weakness.

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