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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:32 PM Jan 2018

This is evocative of cattle cars and detention camps

“If DACA is repealed and no permanent legislation passed, they will all be fired and our government will begin the large-scale deportation of people raised in the United States, using information they volunteered to the government with the promise it would never be used against them or their families.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.html

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This is evocative of cattle cars and detention camps (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 OP
Similar to Germany, WWII. I find the US more disgusting each day. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #1
America used census data to round up american citizens and put them in detention camps during WWII. PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #6
They are separating families now bdamomma Jan 2018 #2
So is f***ing John Kelly! nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #4
He's a racist too. bdamomma Jan 2018 #13
Surely a promise made by the government is sacrosanct. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #3
My mother was involved in hiding Jews. Maybe we should start planning to hide Dreamers. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #5
Emoji might be laughing, but people will do it and some will be saved. . . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #9
I think that's been the plan all along ribrepin Jan 2018 #7
Piercing, poignant excerpt. Thank you. . . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #8
was that promise in writing? Volaris Jan 2018 #10
Or not, jazzcat23 Jan 2018 #11
You decide DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #15
There is a lawsuit cannabis_flower Jan 2018 #16
During the nationwide confer. call with MoveOn and Indivisible tonight BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #12
Images of Nazis rounding people up flash thru my mind often these days, RandomAccess Jan 2018 #14

bdamomma

(63,846 posts)
2. They are separating families now
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:43 PM
Jan 2018

their master race ideology will not stop unless we stop them. Stephen Miller is a key component in all of this.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
3. Surely a promise made by the government is sacrosanct.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:37 AM
Jan 2018

We just careen around like bumper cars, bouncing off whatever new thing pops up, or having things bounce off us...and hoping like hell that the next contact won't be fatal.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. My mother was involved in hiding Jews. Maybe we should start planning to hide Dreamers.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jan 2018

Until after the next election.

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
7. I think that's been the plan all along
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jan 2018

I feel so bad for people who came forward and volunteered information. Now the lazy bastards won't even have to look hard. Meanwhile MS-13 will roam free and the assholes will blame crime on foreigners. I am sick with shame.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
10. was that promise in writing?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jan 2018

because if so, welcome to the biggest class-action suit the federal government has ever seen.

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
11. Or not,
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:41 AM
Jan 2018

didn't I hear a while ago they have been working hard to eliminate our possibility to bring class actions lawsuits? After all, we have no way to afford to sue any big entity, such as corporations, alone. Class action suits are the only way to win, even a little bit. They can't have that! Besides the fact that they are packing the court system with right wing type judges. That is illegal, why nobody is screaming about any of that, I don't know.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. You decide
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018

President Barack Obama announced this policy with a speech in the Rose Garden of the White House on June 15, 2012.[19] The date was chosen as the 30th anniversary of Plyler v. Doe, a Supreme Court decision barring public schools from charging illegal immigrant children tuition. The policy was officially established by a memorandum from the Secretary of Homeland Security titled "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children".[20] This policy allowed certain immigrants to escape deportation and obtain work permits for a period of two years – renewable upon good behavior. To apply, immigrants had to be younger than 31 on June 15, 2012, must have come to the U.S. when they were younger than 16, and must have lived in the U.S. since 2007. In August 2012, the Pew Research Center estimated that up to 1.7 million people were eligible.[21]

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012.[21] As of June 2016, USCIS had received 844,931 initial applications for DACA status, of which 741,546 (88%) were approved, 60,269 (7%) were denied, and 43,121 (5%) were pending. Over half of those accepted reside in California and Texas.[22] According to an August 2017 survey, most current registrants (called "Dreamers" in a reference to the DREAM Act bill) are in their 20s, and about 80% arrived in the United States when they were 10 or younger.[23]

In November 2014, Obama announced his intention to expand DACA to make more people eligible.[24][25] However, in December 2014, Texas and 25 other states, all with Republican governors, sued the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas asking the court to enjoin implementation of both the DACA expansion and Deferred Action for Parents of Americans,(a similar program).[26][27][28] In February 2015, Judge Andrew S. Hanen issued a preliminary injunction blocking the expansion from going into effect while the case, Texas v. United States, proceeds.[29][30] After progressing through the court system, an equally divided (4–4) Supreme Court left the injunction in place, without setting any precedent.[31]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
12. During the nationwide confer. call with MoveOn and Indivisible tonight
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:48 AM
Jan 2018

I was told that the ICE authorities have been targeting the most outspoken and well known undocumented immigrants to scare the rest into submission and it's working. We have to stop this NOW!

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
14. Images of Nazis rounding people up flash thru my mind often these days,
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018

pretty much with every news item on ICE or Border Patrol roundup or abuse of power.

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