Who gets blamed for the shutdown? Here's what the polls say

[sandensea]

The last time the government shut down in 2013, polls showed Republicans took the brunt of the blame.

It looks like history might be repeating.

Pre-shutdown polls from last week showed nearly half of respondents said they’d hold President Donald Trump and/or congressional Republicans responsible for a shutdown, compared to less than one-third who said they would blame Democrats in Congress.

A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, conducted Thursday and Friday also found more voters would blame Republicans in Congress for the government shutdown (41%), than would blame Democrats (36%). Democratic and Republican voters, by wide margins, held the other side responsible. But more independents said they would blame Republicans (34%), than Democrats (27%).

Yet the shutdown is no clean political win for Democrats. Americans don’t necessarily approve of the party's strategy to insist on a legislative solution for undocumented immigrants brought here as children before voting to reopen the government.

In fact, both parties’ immigration stances — Democrats’ efforts to protect the so-called Dreamers and Trump’s insistence on funding a border wall with Mexico — are viewed by voters as less important than keeping the government open.

As of late Saturday, Democrats led by 8 points on the generic ballot according to the RealClearPolitics average.

At: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/21/government-shutdown-2018-polls-blame-353728

[mucifer]

1. Those numbers are pretty close

[sandensea]

2. Yes. Polls show

Democrats' emphasis - or perceived emphasis - on DACA and Dreamers may be eroding the number of people siding with them on this Shutdown.

They should make a point to let people know CHIP is a part of this as well (which has been all but lost in the media noise).

[msongs]

3. are repubs winning the PR war? fear, hate, fear hate. its what they offer nt

[sandensea]

4. Well, more independents said they would blame Republicans (34%) than Democrats (27%)

A key - if not the key - number in all these polls, as you know.

Democrats aren't exactly running away with this; but for all their RW spin machine, the GOP is looking pretty bad to voters in this thing.

[Igel]

12. I suspect that some is usual personal biases.

But some is also the early messaging, "Republicans control both houses of Congress and the presidency, why can't they pass the budget?"

The "nuclear option" said clearly, "The minority can hold things up" and the more filibuster talk there is, the more clearly the utter falseness of that early messaging becomes clear. If you need 60 votes in the Senate and have 51 or 52, you don't actually have the level of control that the "they can pass the budget whenever they want to" rhetoric entails.

Of course, that information won't get to a lot of people, and even if it does it won't make sense.

[Cha]

5. My sister watched Sunday shows and she

said it was a clear win for Dems.

[sandensea]

6. Certainly a good sign.

Sunday shows tend to treat Democratic guests more skeptically than GOP ones, as you know - even when the Republican is doing nothing but spinning and throwing cheese on the wall.

From this Politico poll it was good to see independent voters are siding with Democrats by a 7-point margin. Dems, I think, must make a point of bringing up the CHIP funding crisis as much as they can.

[Cha]

7. Yes.. Dems must tell it like it is..

Link to tweet

Mahalo, sandendsea

[sandensea]

8. They love holding hostages, don't they.

A nasty habit they picked during the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign, apparently.

And Mahalo to you, Cha. Here's hoping for great things this year.

[TeamPooka]

9. You only get to shut it down once and blame them. If we extend it and then try to shut it down

again in Feb. then the public will blame us.

[sandensea]

10. Absolutely.

The GOPee is, among other things, known as the party that likes to shut down government. It should be kept that way (as it's true, besides).

[BigmanPigman]

11. I am surprised since the GOP PR advert. campaign has been

in full swing the second the Shutdown was announced with commercials and of course the fucking moron and his Kelly/Milled/Mulvaney spin machine with Fux Ruse propaganda non stop.