Here we go.....Scalise: No guarantee House GOP will consider Senate immigration bill

[spanone]

Washington (CNN)The House isn't planning to take up what the Senate might pass on immigration, the House Republican whip said Monday, setting a potential showdown between the two chambers on the issue.

House Republican Whip Steve Scalise told reporters Monday afternoon that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's pledge on the Senate floor to turn to immigration in February -- a key part of ending the government shutdown -- held little weight on the House side.

"There were no commitments made in the House," Scalise said.

"I think we've been very clear that any final solution has to include funding for a wall and we've been working closely with President Trump on that," he added.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics/house-senate-showdown-immigration/index.html?adkey=bn

[COLGATE4]

1. Well, I for one am absolutely certain that

Mitch didn't know this would be the reaction from the House side when he made his 'promise' to Schumer.

[Ms. Toad]

34. Yeah. It's not like this just happened with another of his buy votes promises

in recent memory, or anything . . .

[COLGATE4]

35. PT Barnum would have loved Chuck Schumer...

[C_U_L8R]

2. Here's the next shutdown... brought to you by Steve Scalise

[safeinOhio]

3. Congress wrote the book on how to fool everyone, and

blame some one else.

[Le Gaucher]

4. But he will be happy to bring 2 more bills that NRA might want

[Freethinker65]

5. I suppose the question is what will Trump do when/if DACA does not pass by his arbitrary deadline

If he has nothing to sign, after said time, then he effectively kills DACA. Will Trump have ICE round up all of the expired Dreamers and mass deport them as he has threatened?

Or, will Trump pretend to save the Dreamers from his own executive order thus sticking with DACA anyway? Will he try to rebrand the whole thing as Trump saves the “good hombres” ?

This nonsense never needed to happen. There is no way a dysfunctional GOP lead congress could have permanently “fixed” the neglected immigration issue in a matter of months. Instead the uncertainty will lead to further instability. Instability created by an (in)stable genius.

[burnbaby]

18. I guess he'll do what he said he would do

and that would be to extend it until they can come up with a solution together.

It would be impossible to deport 800K people, republicans know this as well as democrats. DACA are Americans and most of the country believes that. You always have a few haters, but they can go back to their caves.

[Demsrule86]

19. He went to court so he could deport them...he won't extend shit...but we have no way to stop him.

[burnbaby]

30. yes we do

deporting them would not be tolerated and he knows it. I don't think it would be possible to deport them even if he could

[Demsrule86]

32. I hope you are right...but it looks like there will not be a deal ...the GOP have

had months to do one...so I am worried. We did what we could.

[Ms. Toad]

37. Really? Have you been paying attention?

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2018/01/michigan_doctor_in_us_for_near.html

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2018/01/15/jorge-garcia-daca-deported-mexico-immigration/1033296001/

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-huron/norwalk-woman-says-she-was-left-in-the-dark-about-her-husbands-unexpected-deportation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/09/arizona-mom-guadalupe-garcia-de-rayos-deported/97699670/

https://wearemitu.com/things-that-matter/non-criminal-el-salvadorian-deportees-struggle-as-they-are-targeted-for-deportation/

[Demsrule86]

22. The GOP doesn't want to fix it...if they did they could. I expect deportations and it makes me sick.

[Demsrule86]

21. Nobody was fooled. I was glad the shutdown ended and CHIP was done...but shutting the government

down wasn't going to work in terms of saving Dreamers and would hurt our most important effort... the effort to win election in 18. We get the House and the Senate...we can force Trump to the table...even if we just get the House...it will be significant. In November of 16 the GOP and some so called progressives sent a 'message' to Democrats and elected Republicans. We are lucky we have fared this well so far...and if we don't get the House back at least in 18, we are screwed. To those who screwed our party over...and now pretend to care about dreamers and be all big progressives now...I saw you all on social media last night...a giant fuck you goes out to you.

[BoneyardDem]

26. Damn You!!!!!

making sense on a thread that is hell bent on selling a false narrative of weakness of resolve, and the ability of Dems to pass legislation.

[awesomerwb1]

29. I have faith we'll win the House

but the senate will require a small miracle. Winning the House would still be huge though.

[CanonRay]

7. Just another broken promise by the Turtle

his credibility should be negative by now.

[Bleacher Creature]

8. This was always the case, even if Schumer was able to get a vote in the Senate.

And getting it signed by Presidents Kelly and Miller has always been the biggest hurdle of them all.

[onenote]

17. +1

Not sure why that is so hard for some here to comprehend.

[Bleacher Creature]

20. I don't get it either.

I don't for a second think that Trump and his ilk would shed a tear if the government were shut down indefinitely over the issue as it would play great with his lunatic base.

[Cicada]

9. Bipartisan Senate vote for Dreamers puts House in world of pain, costs them seats

If the House blocks reform, some dreamers snatched and deported before Nov election, HouseRepublicans will face even more furious Dems turning out to vote, face extinction as more pro Dreamers begin to vote in future elections. It will be like CA Repubs after Pete Wilson trashing Hispanics but on a multi state field. Schumer and Senate Dems are huge winners.

[Caliman73]

13. Agreed. We are focusing on the idea that "Dems caved" too much.

They will pass DACA in the Senate. Then the House will write the campaign commercials for the Democratic Party candidates by refusing to consider saving these kids who 80% of the electorate support.

Democrats just need to scream that at the top of their lungs.

[Demsrule86]

23. There is that...some of those GOP house asshats are in states that have quite a few dreamers. I

would expect them to lose most of the California seats.

[Justice]

27. Agreed.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Spin spin spin.

The Rethugs are spinning the shutdown as a Dem thing. Remember,most Dems know well there was slime to none possibility of getting DACA. They did get CHIPS off the table for seven years. BTW,CHIPS program covers more Kids in Red States than other .

As a realist,never ever trust McConnell on any Immigration Legislation. We will see another Shut Down in two weeks.

.

[Nanjeanne]

11. That was reported yesterday immediately after the "deal". No surprise.

[Maeve]

12. No guarantee we won't shutdown everything for broken promises, either

And I DO NOT mean the broken promises of Chinless Mitch, but the broken promises we the people made to the DACA kids, promises 87% of Americans want fulfilled.
And there will be no debate on whose goddamn fault it is, either.

[Demsrule86]

24. We can see what happens...no point in a government shutdown if we can't get them to budge on DACA...

" A man's (or woman) got to know his limitations" My Dad loved loved Dirty Harry". It seems to fit.

[kcr]

33. If this is the narrative that prevails, we will ensure that Dems regress to the spinelessness

that many were decrying before. Why take a chance when this is what happens when you try for progress? Dem's actions will show exactly why Dems and Republicans aren't the same, and if you support immigrants you don't vote GOP. When Ryan refuses to take up the bill, or when Mitch renigs on his promise. Why are we throwing their actions back on the Dems? Doing nothing but agreeing without at least attempting to fight would have only supported those who claim Dems and GOP are no different. I'm really struggling to understand.

[gratuitous]

14. We got the CHIP hostages released

Not bad for the minority party in both houses of Congress. Next up, the DACA hostages. Democrats need to be sure to remind everyone (particularly their memory-impaired colleagues in Congress) that DACA and a path to full citizenship is favored by a large majority of Americans, and that the damage currently being done is the sole action and responsibility of Republicans.

The Chibok girls in Nigeria are in a similar situation. I'm happy for those that have been released, but still concerned for the others who remain captive.

[bluestarone]

15. And we knew this

and we knew this

[Dawson Leery]

16. We got CHIP freed from these hostage taking terrorists.

[Demsrule86]

25. And that is a good thing...more than we expected really.

[The_Casual_Observer]

28. "final solution" rolled right off the fuckers tongue!

[NCTraveler]

31. And people will believe his comment here.

Selective. Very selective when some believe a lying right wing asshat and when they won't.

[titaniumsalute]

36. Force the Houses hand...and close this bitch down again if need be. Blame them.

[beachbum bob]

38. ryan controls the agenda not Scalise and Ryan can move forward working with Pelosi

between the moderate republicans left and all the democrats they can pass any immigration reform, otherwise the 2018 election will be a complete annihilation for republicans. I don't think even Ryan has the moral hate against DACA kids like many of his party do.

[workinclasszero]

39. Here we go...

Republicans control the House, the Senate and the white house.

They can do any damn thing they want, surprise!?

[spanone]

40. well, the Dreamers now have an incredibly high profile and most Americans are pulling for them...

so we will see.

the optics of arresting children may be even to horrific for republicans....maybe not