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Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:32 PM

Ryan used Russian assistance to ensure Republicans held the House in 2016. Pelosi asked him to stop











https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/15/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?mtrref=t.co&gwh=5E35E9FC91408BDA0AD51752E4CA805B&gwt=pay

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Reply Ryan used Russian assistance to ensure Republicans held the House in 2016. Pelosi asked him to stop (Original post)
kpete Jan 2018 OP
sunonmars Jan 2018 #1
superpatriotman Jan 2018 #17
Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #30
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #55
Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #56
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #58
Top-Hat Jan 2018 #61
gopiscrap Jan 2018 #64
BadgerMom Jan 2018 #37
Eyeball_Kid Jan 2018 #45
RVN VET71 Jan 2018 #54
uponit7771 Jan 2018 #50
TeamPooka Jan 2018 #59
Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #2
Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #3
Eyeball_Kid Jan 2018 #46
thbobby Jan 2018 #4
sdfernando Jan 2018 #8
FakeNoose Jan 2018 #12
BBG Jan 2018 #25
Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #32
JDC Jan 2018 #5
SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #6
The Genealogist Jan 2018 #7
Hekate Jan 2018 #9
shraby Jan 2018 #10
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #11
triron Jan 2018 #15
shraby Jan 2018 #62
triron Jan 2018 #13
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #19
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #23
Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #63
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #22
Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #33
triron Jan 2018 #36
Alice11111 Jan 2018 #27
DallasNE Jan 2018 #47
pnwmom Jan 2018 #16
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #18
superpatriotman Jan 2018 #20
NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #29
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #14
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #21
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #26
red dog 1 Jan 2018 #24
gademocrat7 Jan 2018 #28
lastlib Jan 2018 #52
librechik Jan 2018 #31
Vinca Jan 2018 #34
RandomAccess Jan 2018 #35
cstanleytech Jan 2018 #38
ananda Jan 2018 #39
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #40
trueblue2007 Jan 2018 #41
Initech Jan 2018 #42
Hassler Jan 2018 #43
C Moon Jan 2018 #44
ailsagirl Jan 2018 #57
Stryst Jan 2018 #48
pangaia Jan 2018 #49
elfin Jan 2018 #51
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:35 PM

1. Needs investigating.....Resign now Ryan.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:35 PM

17. This +1000

Time to really drain the swamp

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:14 PM

30. If this was Canada or Western Europe the entire R leadership would be forced to resign by an

informed public and an alert media.

So in quasi-fascist America, not anytime soon.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:40 PM

55. Ayup. Thats about the size of things.

It must be nice to live in a country with an informed public and an alert media.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #55)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:46 PM

56. Right on cue multiple leading politicians have resigned in Ontario, Nova Scotia and federal...

Over sexual assault allegations.

Oh, Canada...help us!! Like in HELP us!

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #56)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:09 PM

58. So theyre just as predatory towards women as we are?

😟

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 04:06 PM

61. I think it is significant that Europe and Canada have Parliamentary Systems.

 

The U.S. system is Federal and adversarial as laid out in the Constitution. The parliamentary systems have the ability to vote no confidence and bring down a government. The U.S. Constitution does not provide for this, but does require frequent congressional elections. Parliamentary elections are not at fixed intervals and can be called when public opinion is more favorable to the party in power.

Although the Canadians, British and French have their scandals, there is a greater sensitivity the public opinion. This more related to their political cultures, which derive from the structure of their governments. There is thus no real need to invoke fascist comparisons.

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Response to Top-Hat (Reply #61)

Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:50 PM

64. welcome to DU

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:35 PM

37. This was in the news as early as end of 2016, early 2017.

I agree it's important. Hope that it will be investigated, prosecuted, rectified or stopped from occurring again has long ago vanished for me. The Republican desire for power crushes everything.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:31 PM

45. Mueller knows this already, from what independent journalists have written. Ryan and McConnell are

targets. This will be part of the evidence in a RICO charge against the GOP leadership, and it's one of the reasons that Mueller's investigation is so deep and wide. There's the GOP/RICO, there's the Russian mafia, there's the whole money laundering network, there's Trumpy's real estate crimes... there's enough to prosecute over 270 people. When it's reported that this is the biggest criminal investigation in all of US history, there's no joking around.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:12 AM

54. I want this to be true so badly it hurts

But I'm almost afraid to think it possible. The entire leadership of the Russian-sucking GOP part of the investigation and vulnerable to indictment? Ryan and McConnell -- along with their troglodytic underlings -- found guilty of raketeering and sentenced to prison? That would be as good as Steve Martin's famously wished-for 31 day orgasm. I only hope it's more likely.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:02 PM

50. +1

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:12 PM

59. The entire GOP is tainted with Russian influence. The Great Oligarch Party

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:37 PM

2. Yep. I remember reading about this.

Ryan, McConnell, and the RNC took the info and ran with it.

This was not your typical oppositional research. This was handed to them and they either knew the why and how and what will you owe for using this, or they did not bother to ask. I am pretty sure they knew it was not from God.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:38 PM

3. I guess that answers why he backed Nunes. nt

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:32 PM

46. Nunes is also trying to protect Ryan's ass. And his own. Both are targets.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:42 PM

4. GOP-Russia Crime Family

Ryan - "We have to keep this in the family."

GOP is kissing trump's orange ass because they fear him throwing them under the bus when Mueller comes knocking.

It is obvious. GOP and trump colluded with Russian-Putin Organized Crime Syndicate to win in 2016 and probably before.

NRA is part of the syndicate. So are a lot of uber-Rich GOP donors. Mercers for example.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:19 PM

8. If Ryan, or McConnell for that matter,

think the orange one will not throw them under the bus when things get dicey...well then he is STOOOOPID! Anyone paying attention knows orangeman looks out only for himself.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:30 PM

12. Well it works both ways

Ryan and Mitchell ought to throw Cheeto under the bus as well. As a matter of fact they should all do it.
We're gonna witness the self-destruction of the Republican Party, real soon!



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Response to thbobby (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:49 PM

25. Family Messaging

That comment about keeping it in the family was made after the observation that trump and that CA congressman were getting Putin backing. Seems to me this coulda/shoulda been used in response to the secret society bullshit.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:16 PM

32. Obama PAC takes Russian supplied into obtained by crime in political ads. Obama refuses to

condemn! Imagine the fucking media response.

Look no further why the double standard?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:48 PM

5. Traitor Ryan.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:57 PM

6. Traitors all!

This will never be silenced nor suppressed. There simply is too much out there. Otherwise, why is Mueller taking so long? I imagine perhaps a lot to digest?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:07 PM

7. Filthy scum

These people are scum of the earth. Amoral, greedy scum with the gall to lecture about morality. The whole damned party is rotten to the core. Even those from that party who are not guilty of these vile acts are guilty of sitting idly by while the crimes go on and get covered up. Sickening.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:21 PM

9. Ryan is 1st in line for potus after Pence.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:23 PM

10. If Pelosi knew, why didn't she scream it from the rooftops?

If the Dems were doing it, the republicans would make it a mantra.

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:26 PM

11. The takeaway of this for you is really blame Pelosi? Wow, just wow. (n/t)

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:33 PM

15. Don't think Shraby intends to blame Pelosi

just pointing out what the republicans would do if shoe was on other foot.

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Response to triron (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:23 AM

62. You're right, I don't blame Pelosi.

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:31 PM

13. I wonder as well

Also mystery to me why Obama administration remained mum about Russia-Trump collusion
evidence (which our intelligence had thanks to Europeans). Maybe they just thought Hillary
would win--bad mistake.

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Response to triron (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:37 PM

19. Knowing something is different from proving it in public. Please see my post #18.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:41 PM

23. +1. (n/t)

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:49 AM

63. Like the pugs always wait for evidence before they start shrieking about nonexistent basements &

 

stuff?

When has any consideration for facts stopped them from anything?

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Response to triron (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:39 PM

22. here is a link if you really are mystified.

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:18 PM

33. If by now a liberal does not know all about the when and the why of R treason is a mystery!

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:31 PM

36. I was aware of that.

Still think more might have been done. Not saying what because I don't know.

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Response to triron (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:52 PM

27. Yup...both being good girls and boys, not making waves.

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Response to triron (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:55 PM

47. McConnell Wouldn't Go Along

Obama asked McConnell to sign a joint statement and he refused. Without McConnell's signature Obama felt it would be viewed as Obama attempting to throw the election for Clinton.

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:35 PM

16. Because it's more effective to whisper it to places like the NYTimes. n/t

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:36 PM

18. Because knowing something is different from proving it. Pelosi maybe knew it by secret documents


Pelosi may have known the collusion for a fact by way of Intelligence Community documents shown to her in her official capacity and under hard secrecy oaths.

She may not have been able to use that proof in public.

Going forward with sensational allegations that could not be proven in public could very easily backfire and throw a close election the other way, i.e. Hillary losing the popular vote as well as the stolen Electoral College.

So until more is uncovered about the events I do not fault Pelosi.

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:38 PM

20. Clearly your statement is correct

However it's sometimes hard to give our party the tough love it needs to get the job done.

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Response to shraby (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:02 PM

29. Then Republicans scream Fake News

and everybody thinks it's just partisan bickering

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:32 PM

14. The text excerpts excerpted as actual text excerpts and not broken images


Link from the OP: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?mtrref=t.co&gwh=5E35E9FC91408BDA0AD51752E4CA805B&gwt=pay

But there was never anything quite like the 2016 election campaign, when a handful of Democratic House candidates became targets of a Russian influence operation that made thousands of pages of documents stolen by hackers from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in Washington available to Florida reporters and bloggers.

“It was like I was standing out there naked,” said Annette Taddeo, a Democrat who lost her primary race after secret campaign documents were made public. “I just can’t describe it any other way. Our entire internal strategy plan was made public, and suddenly all this material was out there and could be used against me.”


Ms. Pelosi sent a similar letter in early September to Mr. Ryan. Neither received a response. By October, the Congressional Leadership Fund, a “super PAC” tied to Mr. Ryan, had used the stolen material in another advertisement, attacking Mr. Garcia during the general election in Florida.

AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for Mr. Ryan, said he did not control how the material was used in the ad, although she did not dispute that the material had been stolen as part of an act of Russian espionage. “Speaker Ryan has said for months that foreign intervention in our elections is unacceptable,” she said in a written statement.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:38 PM

21. The NYTimes article is from 13 months ago. The Dallas News is over a month old. FYI, folks. . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:52 PM

26. Yup? Gonna bake me some cookies

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:42 PM

24. "thanks to changes in campaign finance laws, the political contributions are legal"

(From the OP)

"We have allowed our campaign finance laws to become a strategic threat to our country."

So, Putin proxies/Russian oligarchs like Len Blavatnik broke no laws in 2015-2016 when he
"pumped $6.35 million into GOP political action committees, with millions of dollars going to top Republican leaders"

How the hell are the Democrats going to retake control of Congress if this is allowed to continue?
And if the GOP continues to control Congress after the 2018 elections, how the hell is Drumpf ever going to be impeached?

(This is extremely depressing)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:54 PM

28. Lying Ryan is a treason weasel.

The cabal of greed and evil need to be removed from office.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:27 PM

52. God, I hate that traitorous f&ucking prick more than ever....!

Please don't insult the Mustelidae family by comparing Ryan to them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:15 PM

31. lawsuit. Please proceed. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:27 PM

34. There's a reason Ryan and Turtle bow down to Don. They're just like him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:27 PM

35. This has more info in it than previous things I've read - definitely important

 

This can't be allowed to continue. Thank God the DNC hired a high-end security specialist.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:38 PM

38. Sounds like Ryan was and still is deeply involved in the conspiracy so I hope he has a good lawyer

as the statute of limitations does not begin counting down until he is no longer involved in the conspiracy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:38 PM

39. Pelosi asked Ryan to ...

Me: Words fail -- literally.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:38 PM

40. Pelosi SHOULD have made a national stink about that. It's too late now. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:54 PM

41. Impeach Ryan if he runs again and if the DEMS control the House.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:07 PM

42. This whole damn party is guilty of collusion.

It's not just Trump - and I've been saying this for a long time. The whole party banded together to embrace Russia and take down Hillary. And it's not going to take a Mueller to figure that out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:29 PM

43. RICO Time

McConartist knew, Lyin rAyn knew. They ALL knew. The entire GOP is complicit. Lock. Them. All. Up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:29 PM

44. Resignin' Ryan

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Response to C Moon (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:54 PM

57. Let it be!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:14 PM

48. Recieving stolen property is a crime.

If all the bullshit over the last couple of years regarding intellectual property have taught us anything, it's that the legal view is that information is a possession.

So Ms. Pelosi "asked him to stop". Why didn't she just report that Mr. Ryan was committing a crime? If I can have my phone bricked because I changed the hardware myself, why did Mr. Ryan's crime result in a mildly worded letter?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:53 PM

49. Pelosi ASKED him to stop? ASKED? That's it?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:25 PM

51. Wisconsonite here -- RYAN no doubt knew of the attempted firing of Mueller last June

He ignored it. How did he know? Good buddy Priebus (also Wisconsin) probably told him before he (allegedly) told Mueller. Walker, Ryan and Priebus are long-time teammates to destroy Wisconsin and then on to the nation.

They are tight - according to some of my very few connected Repug friends who have been active at high levels for many years. These friends ( Romney types) are so plugged in that their kids are in on the big business deals (ex. FoxConn) in my formerly great state.

Ryan just may be the worst of the lot. If it can be proved that he knew for a fact back in June that Dump tried to obstruct by firing Mueller, then he is a part of it.

I always knew Ryan was bad, but the last few years have revealed he is nasty to his very sanctimonious core. Plus now he has power he never had before.

Working here to see him derailed, but his money runs wide and deep.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:39 PM

53. Sigh, I just want these people indicted and locked up already.

I'm so fed up with the hourly barrage of treason, corruption, and criminal behavior by these traitors with zero consequences.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:33 PM

60. The GOP is the pary of putin

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