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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSchmidt continues to hammer it home
I know some of you don't like him because he's a repuke (albeit a pretty darn sane one, if that's not a contradition in terms), but he continues to hammer dump and the state of our contry on a continual basis
Link to tweet
MFM008
(19,827 posts)I even follow him.
The enemy of my enemy is a friend or wtf...
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)Perfect!!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend is an ancient proverb which suggests that two opposing parties can or should work together against a common enemy.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)Old Vet
(2,001 posts)ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)in the resistance against Team Trump
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)And very articulately, I might add
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
(3,439 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)dem4decades
(11,317 posts)Maybe it's still good having some fight for our country from both sides of the aisle?
eppur_se_muova
(36,316 posts)Yes, he seems to show a certain righteous indignation at seeing his party hijacked by 45 and the Redhats. Wish more Repubs were like him.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's the Republican Party he wishes to go back to.
gibraltar72
(7,515 posts)yonder
(9,685 posts)Faux pas
(14,703 posts)liking him more!
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)Faux pas
(14,703 posts)twitter machine, right? Thanks
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)the gift of Sarah Palin and her crackpot family...
LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)You must forgive her and Steve. They have paid their dues and I know Nicole is an independent now.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)samnsara
(17,656 posts)gibraltar72
(7,515 posts)so to speak.
LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)calimary
(81,561 posts)Sometimes it literally makes me want to scream! How damn long are we going to hear this crap about how troubling it is, or hear some CON moans and groans about how theyre very troubled by such-n-such.
ENOUGH! Im rather sick and tired of hearing how theyre so troubled by whatever it is. How long are we gonna have to put up with that? Hey CONS: You just gonna be continually troubled by what youre continually seeing? Without finally getting off yet ass and DOING SOMETHING about it? Youre just gonna sit there and clutch your pearls and reach for the smelling salts, until the next time you see something ELSE trump does that you also find troubling, a few minutes later?
Im sick to death of hearing how troubling this is. Then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, dammit!!! Dont just sit there day after day, week after week, month after month, since 2015 forcryingoutloud, and whine about how troubling this is, or how troubled you supposedly are over this ongoing disaster. Fuckin DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT if its so damned troubling!
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)He's a Republican strategist, an activist, a FREQUENT anti-Trump commentator on MSNBC.
How do you know he's NOT "doing something" (beyond what I've already listed)?
There are a handful of Republicans I know of who have any integrity at all, and Schmidt is right at the very top of my short list, along with former Congressman Jolly, Nicole Wallace and maybe a couple others. He not only has incredible integrity, he also has vision and wisdom.
calimary
(81,561 posts)Im sick and tired of hearing about how more than just Steve Schmidt is feeling troubled. It goes WAY beyond Steve Schmidt. It goes through increasingly large swaths of elected representatives and other talking heads and opinion-meisters who somehow seem far more troubled about sticking their necks out and showing some REAL guts and leadership. Like, where the hell is Bob Kasich? Besides asleep maybe? Doesnt wanna get his hands dirty?
Well, please forgive me, but to me were long past the chicken point by now. Its time to stand up, show some spine where it really counts for keeps: for the sake of America, Americas moral high ground, our leadership among nations, the survival of our institutions and what REALLY makes us great, and has ALWAYS made us great. Heck, in increasingly terrifying ways, our entire planet and its ability to sustain ALL life is at stake! Wheres Jeff Flake, for example? I want these assholes to start showing, AND PROVING that they stand for country over party, not the other way around. I want them, all their little friends, followers, and funders
There are all kinds of things that could be done or instigated. For example...
Whats Steve Schmidt doing to turn his fellow CONS toward voting for impeachment?
Or leaning on them, hard, publicly, and by name, to sponsor and vote for the measure co-authored by Ted Lieu to protect Robert Mueller from being fired?
Or disavow the stinking republiCON Party in public and/or leave the party, change affiliation to Independent or, yes, even Democratic? And make a big public thing of it?
Or denounce trump and make it clear they DONT support him and now think hes a lying cheating traitor?
Encourage them flat-out to grow a pair and cast off their MAGA presidential kneepads?
Id want to see folks like him, Nicolle Wallace, Joe Scarborough, David Jolly, and more become much louder and more aggressive about how wrong trump & comp are for America.
And Id want them pushing the fact-checking. Again and again. At EVERY possible turn and opportunity. To remind the ciewers. Remind. Repeat. Like GOP propaganda does without pause or let-up. Id like to see more of those folks start weaning their friends and colleagues from Newsmax and Breitbart and Pox Noise to open their eyes and stop avoiding this. Publicly denounce. Check the facts. Correct the record. Aggressively.
Rather than just clipping on the little mic and settling back in their studio chairs and sets with the local skyline or a wall full of books behind them. And opine, so damn antiseptically.
Id like to see some meat on their bones. Not just studio makeup on their faces.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And that requires not getting kicked off MSNBC, and CNN if he's invited there, by bringing the 2016 crimes way too close to their perpetrators.
We could blame ourselves also. Only some of us turned both CNN and MSNBC off, daytime programming at least, which should have been done very early on, and was by some. Refusing to listen to their poison would have been taking a stand that spoke much louder than just marching once or twice a year.
Not too late.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Juliusseizure
(562 posts)The GOP does what their donors and constituency tell them.
His influence is limited, but I see him maximizing it. He does call out specific politicians in commentary, but he wants the current GOP burned down and start fresh. He tweeted that last week. There's not a more outspoken anti-Trump/anti-GOP commentator.
And keep in mind, he's sacrificing work. No GOP would hire him. I admire that.
jayschool2013
(2,316 posts)Personally, I'd like to see at least some discussion of a movement toward a new political party, if they're not willing to join the Democratic Party. Let the Trumpers, racists, know-nothings and nativists wallow in the muck of their 33 percent (or smaller) base, and then seek to, at the very least, create a coalition of Democrats and traditional conservatives who could govern by compromise.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)I guess you could include Scarborough who became Independent. But he was at the forefront of wanting Clinton indicted. He is a hypocrite.
moreland01
(744 posts)Steve Schmidt will NEVER live down that whole Sarah Palin debacle. At least I will never forget what horrible judgement he has.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)and it gave me a completely different impression of him
I normally dismiss anyone who is a repuke but not anymore. Battle lines are being drawn.
And again,
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
citizen blues
(570 posts)There are some principled conservatives who put country before party and still defend the constitution.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I like Steve! He rocks.
flying_wahini
(6,684 posts)And watch them crap their pants.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not to mention Sarah Palin.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)http://www.newsweek.com/steve-schmidt-man-behind-mccain-92215
JI7
(89,283 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Steve Schmidt is one of them.
I think with the current awfulness of Trump it becomes easy to forget the previous awfulness of Bush/Rove/Cheney.
JI7
(89,283 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just think it's important to recognize that he is very much in the Bush-Cheney camp.
JI7
(89,283 posts)Trump and other birther trash like leeann tweeden who support perverts like trump and toy moore are the problem.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)Before posting the tweet, I wanted to acknowledge there are those who don't like Schmidt and I need to respect that. At first I did not like him simply because he's a repuke, then my opinion started changing because of how apoplectic he has become re dump and continues to be. And I appreciate that. That's all.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)We need more people like him.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)There is no chance that McCain would have selected her had it not been for Steve Schmidt.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)He thought she sounded OK when she was vetted but when he found she didn't know even the most basic things about government, world history, and politics, he panicked.
Did you see Game Change? Highly recommended
Part of Roger Ebert's take on the film:
On paper, the governor of Alaska was ideal. In person, she had delightful charisma. It's made clear in the film that Schmidt and his team did only a superficial background check on her, and later Schmidt was to berate himself for not asking her a single policy question. McCain, persuaded that she might be the game changer he needed, went along. Doubts began to form before the GOP convention, but they were swept away by her triumphant speech accepting the nomination. Backstage, the McCain troops hugged themselves with delight.
...Then reality began to sink in: Palin knew virtually nothing about current events, world politics, history, geography. Wallace and Schmidt share their astonishment: She didn't know what the Fed was. She thought Korea was one country. She believed Queen Elizabeth was the British head of state.
And on it goes. The film fascinated me and I watched it only because several Dems on MSNBC reported seeing it multiple times.
Here's a more in-depth link re Schmidt and the Palin fallout
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/steve-schmidts-brutally-honest-assessment-of-sarah-palin/2011/03/04/gIQA9ewZ7R_blog.html?utm_term=.82ec874f04d1
One last link: (sorry to go on and on)
oberliner
(58,724 posts)In any case, it is true that Schmidt came to realize the reality of Sarah Palin and his opinion of her evolved.
That said, his other claim to fame is schilling for Dick Cheney.
I guess the point being that his anti-Trump stuff sounds good now, of course, but he was in league with the darkest elements of the Republican party for most of his political career.
And he has not really repented for that, as far as I can tell. He supported Jeb Bush for president this time around.
JI7
(89,283 posts)It's welcome to those of us who oppose trump who is currently in office.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I think he owes it to the country and to humanity to repent for his dark past.
JI7
(89,283 posts)I don't support any such views from anyone.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Now he/she is discrediting a vocal Trump critic. Hmmm...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Those of us who have been posting here since 2006 appreciate your insights.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Very impressive.
czarjak
(11,311 posts)Of which he's one.
Upthevibe
(8,100 posts)this. I think he IS a patriot who HAS put country before party (as has Nicole). Game Change gives a very clear picture of what happened with Palin. He can't stand her, and choosing her was a huge mistake in which he's not (IMHO -by any means) completely responsible. There were a lot of factors that played into that whole situation. He and Nicole (who BTW didn't vote at all in the 2008 election)really seem to be reasonable and moderate. Nicole has ALWAYS detested dt. In fact, I believe (I have no facts - just my gut feeling) that her contract on the T.V. show The View probably wasn't renewed because she's TOO moderate and reasonable. They need an a-hole (like Elizabeth Hasselbeck or Meagan McCain) so the ladies can argue and drive up ratings....just my 2 cents.....
Cha
(297,934 posts)get.. some in the M$M continue to try and normalize the perverted bully.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Schmidt is an honorable man. A Republican with personal honor. How rare is that?
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)JI7
(89,283 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MrPurple
(985 posts)Response to MrPurple (Reply #67)
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zentrum
(9,866 posts)
no loyalty to Trump. They hate him. They only have loyalty to the policies that Trump can be a useful idiot for enacting.
They want to privatize all government services, have a free hand to seize and exploit every resource of the earth. They are loyal to the people who bribe themthe Mercers, the Kochs. Their tribe is a narrow slice of the worst of the 1% who keep them in power. Their "King" is the malignant model of Capitalism they practicenot Trump.
I'm sure they'd prefer Pence, or any number of hideous right wingers, but Trump is beloved of their rabid base, so they protect him.
JohnnyRingo
(18,672 posts)Just because he headed on McCain's campaign doesn't mean he shares his politics. It's just a job. Ask the Carvilles.
JI7
(89,283 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)His commentary is always right-on, and usually biting.
dchill
(38,591 posts)As well as, among others, Nicole Wallace, David Frum, and even William Kristol. If and when they revert to their conservative tendencies, they're off the bus. Till then, I welcome them, insofar as it's my place to do so.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)I'm sure I'd disagree with her stance on Nicaraguan politics, or Latin American foreign policy. But she's a real firebrand, and totally fearless. The kind of opponent I respect.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Don't be too quick to forgive him. He's why we have been blessed by Sarah. The only thing good that came out of that was Tina Fey's popularity.