Julia Gillard and Hillary Clinton join forces to confront bias against female leaders

[ehrnst]

She continues to lead.

Julia Gillard and Hillary Clinton plan to work together to challenge negative stereotypes of females who aspire to be political leaders and to encourage more women to nominate for public office.

The pair have discussed the impact of gender on their political careers and plan to collaborate in changing the perceptions of female leaders as unlikeable, selfish and ruthless.

"I'm hopeful there are some things we can do together in the future on these questions of leadership and gender, bringing to that possibility some of our shared experiences," Ms Gillard said in an exclusive interview.

"Personally, I think there's a need to deepen the evidence base about women in leadership," she added, saying there was already much research on the role of 'unconscious bias' in attitudes to female political leaders.
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Describing sexism and misogyny as endemic in America, Ms Clinton writes that misogyny is "what happens when a woman gets a job that a man wanted, and instead of shaking her hand and wishing her well, he calls her a bitch and vows to do everything he can to make sure she fails".

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julia-gillard-and-hillary-clinton-join-forces-to-confront-bias-against-female-leaders-20180126-h0onkf.html

[triron]

1. This is a big deal.

MSM needs to cover.

[MrsCoffee]

2. k&r

[delisen]

3. New Power Center on Feminism Begins

and it is international.

Democracy requires full participation (equality) and reason in order to prevail in our complex world

Attitudes toward women in the public square and in power defy reason and prevent the success of Democracy

I see this joining together as a new power center and that many women worldwide are going to part of it (I suspect some already are but have chosen to not announce yet).

H Clinton's definition of misogyny quoted above:

what happens when a woman gets a job that a man wanted, and instead of shaking her hand and wishing her well, he calls her a bitch and vows to do everything he can to make sure she fails"

[ehrnst]

11. I think that women in power understand a lot of things that men in power don't

especially white male politicians who view any sort of productive relationship building, especially between women as "capitulation," and "corrupt."

It's incredibly threatening to men for whom absolute conformation to a manifesto is the only definition of "ethical leadership."

Doubly so when women in power don't conform to men's vision of feminine competition with each other... or lack any sort of concern what men think of their "likeablity."

HRC was called that, and Gillard was pilloried for her "deliberate barreness? - no wonder they had so much to talk about.

And no wonder it causes panties in knots among men, even here on DU.

[lapucelle]

33. Brilliant.

Describing sexism and misogyny as endemic in America, Ms Clinton writes that

"Misogyny is what happens when a woman gets a job that a man wanted, and instead of shaking her hand and wishing her well, he calls her a bitch and vows to do everything he can to make sure she fails".

[GaryCnf]

4. From Wikipedia without comment

Although nominally a member of the Victorian Left faction of the Labor Party, her election to Prime Minister occurred because of support from the Right factions of the party, with the hard Left planning to support Rudd in the Caucus vote had there actually been one. Analyses of Jacqueline Kent's 2009 biography of Gillard suggest that her membership in the Left faction is "more organisational than ideological". In July 2010, historian Ross Fitzgerald said, "... at least since [2009] Gillard has sought to reposition herself more towards the Labor Right."

[mcar]

7. Your point?

[ehrnst]

10. ...

Isn't it always the same "point?"

[mcar]

16. It always is

Some people do let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[lapucelle]

37. The Australian "hard left" was planning on playing spoiler?

Quelle surprise.

[lapucelle]

38. Sounds like some thought the Australian PM was "flawed".

[ehrnst]

41. Indeed. (nt)

[ehrnst]

8. Sexism affects women on the spectrum of politics

And what a powerful message it is that these two women from different political backgrounds can unite to fight it, and raise awareness.

It takes class to understand that those who don't walk lockstep with you can still be a partner for good.

Much like partnerships of former presidents to do good for charity and world health, these two world leaders are using their influence to accomplish real good for people, rather than simply pontificating about it for years on end.

Of course there will always be those who carp and attack these women who can forge those productive partnerships as untrustworthy, but these two show what intelligence, class and leadership can accomplish what rigidity, overblown ego and narrowmindedness can't.

Many men with ambitions to effective national leadership could learn a lot from Hillary and Julia.

Don't you think?

[mcar]

17. This!

Many men with ambitions to effective national leadership could learn a lot from Hillary and Julia.

[brer cat]

18. Many would like to drive a wedge

any time two or more women get together to accomplish something worthwhile. And then, of course, there is the CDS which obligates them to come out and tear her down no matter what.

[GaryCnf]

28. Indeed they are diverse

One is from the United States, the other Australia.

As for your question

Many men with ambitions to effective national leadership could learn a lot from Hillary and Julia.

Any man who thinks he can not learn from the experiences of either Ms. Clinton or Ms. Gillard is both a misogynist and a fool.

[ehrnst]

32. And politically on differing parts of the spectrum

as your post from Wikipedia so clearly pointed out.

Hillary is very progressive, and her ability to work with people, even those who have different ideas has always been one of her strengths, even if it has caused suspicion among some.

She and Gillard will do great things.

[GaryCnf]

40. It could not be more true that

if women and men are wise enough to learn from the experiences of these two courageous women, the world will be a better place.

[Hortensis]

12. More to the point, Hillary's far too smart to ally with

a bad, insincere person. Hillary's been working to elevate the wellbeing of women and children since she was a teenager and has been committed to that as her life's work since she was a young adult.

It's fine if Gillard leans conservative, assuming she does. There are many different types of conservatives, and that does not preclude true commitment to women's equality. And it'd be far more healthy than in the U.S. where most conservatives are opposing women's rights out of loyalty to their "jersey."

Btw, I note Aussie deza against her also claims Gillard has told Muslims to leave Australia. Not true, and I suspect only one of many such lies. This kind of thing against women in power isn't only happening in the U.S.

Bottom line, if Hillary allies with this woman, I'm with them.

[ehrnst]

14. Yes, like HRC, the lies and suspicion of Gillard, even after she's out of office

are endemic.

I love the fact that they don't care how upsetting their good work together is to men, even some here on DU...

Let the panties bunch.

[Wwcd]

27. Me too. Great Post

"This kind of thing against women in power isn't only happening in the U.S.

Bottom line, if Hillary allies with this woman, I'm with them. "

[Hortensis]

39. :) Bottom line, guys, those men who are anxious about

competing with women will just have to get over it, and unwedge those panties. THIS step in the evolution of humanity is extremely long overdue, is happening around the planet, and can't be stopped.

And while we're at it, let's also admire all the confident and decent men who smile and say, "Bring it on." And their mainstream-revolutionary forerunners who agreed that women should also have the right to vote.

[Me.]

13. The Fact That You Posted It, Is A Comment

just as no answer is actually an answer

[ehrnst]

20. Amazing how some react whenever she has the nerve

to appear in public, especially with another powerful woman.

It's like they don't even care about what men here on DU think!

[Me.]

31. Seriously

[ehrnst]

21. I hear tell Goody Proctor saw her strike a white millennial man impotent with just a look.

She and the neocon Hillary will conspire to make all men SLAVES to the ESTABLISHMENT!

[Cha]

5. Good on Julia Gillard and Hillary!

More awareness and brainstorming and hopefully someday there will be no bias.

Hillary going forward.. not letting haberman and glen thrush, and all those on their wagon, slow her down.

[mcar]

6. She has always stood for us

I'm proud to still be with her.

[oasis]

9. K and R. ImWithThem

[stonecutter357]

19. K&R

[left-of-center2012]

22. One day we may have a female Speaker of the House of Representatives !

Female Senators !

Female Governors !

Female candidates for President !

Even, yes, a female President !

Rock on !

[ehrnst]

23. Yes, and you can see what happens when we get them.

The outrage...

The savaging and the tribal anger at women, especially older women who don't apologize for being more accomplished and effective than their male colleagues and challengers.

Even amongst those here on DU.

Imagine.

[Wwcd]

25. Yes. 🇺🇸 🍃 🌐

[left-of-center2012]

26. "older women who don't apologize for being more accomplished"

Who are these older women?

[ehrnst]

29. Some had/have the jobs on your list.

[left-of-center2012]

34. Let's focus on beating the GOP in 2018 and 2020

We need all Democratic women and men,
united.

Everyone.

Together.

United.

[ehrnst]

35. I wish that attitude had been more evident here on DU

in the last few years.

Hillary continues to inspire progressives with her leadership.

[Me.]

36. And Bosses Them Around

Imagine

[Wwcd]

24. A million K & R's to your post ehrnst☺

Thank you, this thread has made my day!

Hillary is doing just what she has always done.

NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE THIS FROM HER
These are Hillary Clinton's words, thoughts & her announcement to the world.
(Looking at you Linda Sosour! Here, watch this.)

Bejing 1995 ~ HRC

Women's Rights are Human Rights

"Its most prominent usage is as the name of a speech given by Hillary Rodham Clinton, the First Lady of the United States, on 5 September 1995, at the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing.
In this speech she sought to closely link the notion of women's rights with that of human rights".

[ehrnst]

30. Even when she was told to shut up and sit down as FLOTUS

she STILL got more done than many who have been on the Hill for decades in terms of progressive goals - affordable health care in the form of CHIP, for example.

That ticked off more than a few men, and still does, apparently.

[Lucinda]

42. KNR Thank you!

[triron]

43. kick for visibility

[lunamagica]

44. K&R. That's great!