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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRomney Advisor: 'Obama doesn't appreciate the ANGLO-SAXON heritage we share with Great Britain.'
What the London Daily Telegraph calls one of Romneys advisors told the paper that Romney was better positioned to understand and respect the special relationship between the US and Great Britain than President Obama, whose father was from Kenya.
Said the advisor: We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special. The White House didnt fully appreciate the shared history we have.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/07/romney_camp_mitt_will_bring_a_white_mans_touch.php?ref=fpblg
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)that's a fuckin' bullhorn.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)So between Obama's white Anglo Saxon mama, and his Kenyan heritage, he's got a closer relationship to GB than that guy who's daddy's name was "Chihuahua George" could ever hope to have.
Jesus, people are fucking stooooopid, aren't they?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"Obama shares a common descent from King Edward I of England, King Henry III of England, King John Lackland of England, King Henry II of England, King Henry I of England, King William I of England (i.e. William "the Conqueror"0, Count Baldwin of Flanders and his daughter Matilda, Kinng Robert Capet I of France, King Louis I of France, and Charlemagne. Obama also shares a common descent with former President George Washington with Halfdan, King of Denmark and Sweden and Woden Oden. Obama also shares a common descent through Richard Eltonhead with Queen Elizabeth of Great Britain. "
http://genealogyofpresidents.blogspot.com/
Coexist
(24,542 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)minorities as "others".
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Expect the rightwing to organize a Dixie Chicks boycott a week from never
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)chemenger
(1,593 posts)"... an informal term, often derogatory or disparaging, for a closed group of high-status Americans mostly of British Protestant ancestry. The term implies this group wields disproportionate financial and social power." (from Wikipedia)
So, Romney's a Mormon but you still get the idea ... as a wealthy white guy I understand what moves this world far more than that black guy who's currently in the White House.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)"as a wealthy white guy I understand what moves this world"
Not a healthy attitude, even if you "understand" it. I disagree, many black people have shown their power, Kofi Annon, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and now the most powerful man on earth Barack Obama. Times change and whites have seen their glory pass.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)hatrack
(59,585 posts)They really have nothing left - not even shame.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Why not just say what you really mean asshole?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)That's why that garbage job was given to the so called Romney adviser (or whomever).
So, just to get this straight, he not only prefers to hide behind/under a woman's skirt, he sends the London media racist shit messages via a cabana boy.
That's some real courageous manmeat right there.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)He gutted enough factories and outsourced their jobs overseas after all.
"Why not just say what you really mean asshole?"
elleng
(130,904 posts)He can have his 'special relationship!'
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)That was my initial reaction
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)But whatever, what he said is still offensive as hell. What did he mean, "you know, we're all white folks here . . . "
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)slampoet
(5,032 posts)What a self deluded jerk.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)The MSM needs to OUT that guy for this.
Did he think no one would fucking hear about that? The media in the UK is not all a bunch of useless corporate toadies like the US.
After re-reading the article, it becomes VERY VERY clear. They are going for the "he's not one of US!" Palin attacks. These horrid "he woudn't want to sing Land of Hope and Glory." Why don't they just get it over with?? Why beat about the bush? Say it... He's not WHITE. There we said it.
I swear to God, I thought the Bush campaign was the worst. Romney's people are the absolute most disgusting and hateful of all. At least Bush let outsiders be the evil ones... Romney's own people are just absolute racist pieces of shit. Sorry.. but this is pissing me off. Romney cannot run on his record.. he refuses to release those returns or ANYTHING, and the MSM has moved past that and not asking anymore. So instead the pig is attacking our President, and calling for the racist haters.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)OMG. Rmoney should fire this person. What a stupid thing to say. No excuse for this whatsoever.
And as usual, false. Obama understands all of it just fine.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I didn't lose the 2012 election. In fact, I left a month before that happened.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)and he is fucking wrong.
Kenya probably has more anglo-saxon blood than America does - after all it was one of the colonies. Snark.
Really Anglo-Saxon - that is so 11th Century!!
England was invaded in 1066 by the Normans. Many Brits are like me - if you go back far enough we have such mixed ancestry we are true mutts - proud mutts, but mutts all the same - and we don't want any special relationships with the likes of Rmoney.
As for Churchill's bust - that was returned to Britain via the diplomats - is Romney going to start another war to get it back from the Brits?
Of course, the meeting of the minds - Romney, Cameron, Miliband Blair - what a waste of fucking air.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Someone tell Mittens it is too late to go crawling back to England to get back under crown rule. I don't even know what he is talking about as far as the special relationship. Last I checked Hawaii really is part of the US, sounds like Romney is putting in a jab on Hawaii as well. Of course this all ignores the fact that Obama has spent several years in the continental US as well. My take away from all this is that Obama has been subjected to far more cultures than Romney's only having to mingle with uber rich people for most of his life. It must have been hell for him in his formative years not having amassed the wealth he has. Probably felt poor next to the kids that had parents with the kind of wealth he has now, I bet he truly felt under privileged.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)they came to the states in the 1800's
perhaps he is planning to go back ........ one can hope
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Mitt's family LEFT the US because his great grandfather was a religious extremist who did not want to follow the rest of the Mormon church and give up polygamy. Mitt still has relatives in Mexico - I am not sure if they still practice polygamy or if they are still religious extremists.
MADem
(135,425 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)But that just gives fuel to the birthers who claim that Obama should have British citizenship, not American. I have not figured out how that would work under any law but some of the seem to believe it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I just can't take all this poutrage. The Rmoney campaign needs to get off that horse if they know what's good for them!
I think it totally jumped the shark when John "Ass Grabbing Pervert" Sununu, born in HAVANA CUBA, had the 'cojones' (gotta speak to him in a language he understands-/snark) to suggest that Obama was insufficiently American!
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)on the forum and anyone who understands Mexican idiomatic Spanish slang
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)when he was born into a breakaway sect that the mainstream LDS Church officially disavows?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)The Romans had paved roads and running water while the English were fighting over who got the deer hide. Our country is based upon the Roman model, NOT the British Monarchy. I see more kinship with Rome than Britain.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)The Romans built roads, amphitheaters, Hadrian's wall and if you've ever been to Bath (Roman name: Acqua Sulius) it has ruins that remind you of many places in the Med. the Brits took Roman law, and passed a lot of it down to us. Even Great Britain is its Roman name.
The REAL Brits--the native ones who were invaded first by Romans, then by every last Euro tribe before the French finally got em in 1066--are the Celts. Scots, Irish, Welsh and Cornish, the last lands they inhabit in the UK. They got pushed to the edges, and discriminated against, like all natives conquered by invaders. But to address your point, if we are descendants of the Roman Empire, we are So by way of our British overlords from 250 years ago.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)but yes, the Romans conquered much of what is now Great Britain Even the Irish patron saint, St. Patrick, was Welsh by birth but Roman by blood, the son of a Roman Officer and his wealthy wife. The same Celts were also prevalent in the Lombard region of Italy, only to be overcome by the Roman empire. Roman soldiers went to Spain to retire. Romans built the Church in France, Greece, Constantinople and Rome. The south of France was once part of Italy, as were portions of modern day Austria. To claim that Anglo Saxons were our greatest influence is silly.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Volaris
(10,271 posts)silly rabbit, that's only for US when THEIR guy gets to be Pres.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)apparently, he's leaving all of that to his slimy henchmen.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)"swallowed" ?
beac
(9,992 posts)snorted them, by all indications.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)What an idiot. I hope the press has a field day with the remark.
Jessy169
(602 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)Independents, "the middle of the road" voters, etc.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The bigoted twits are still uncertain about his being a Mormon, after all.
Romney's in an interesting position, where the only people who might support him right now are "moderate Republicans." All... nine? Ten of them? His own religion and lack of Populist Party Bus field trips are costing him with "the base" (can't really call them extreme if they make up the foundation of hte GOP) and he's been totally unable to connect with the Last-Minute-His-Hair-Looks-Nice voters (i.e., "independents"
Marr
(20,317 posts)"White", sure-- but Anglo-Saxon? That's one o' them gymnasium words.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Kind of forgetting the contributions that the rest of the UK has given the world, including America.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)the Ambassador's charming kids.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Holy crap!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)For fucking serious?
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)that the U.S. colonies REBELLED AGAINST in 1776?
rocktivity
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)If this Romney advisor had been heard by the actual founding fathers, they would have hung him.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Well, it didn't really last very long, and put up against subsequent conflicts, the death toll was really insignificant...
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)how much they appreciate the Anglo-Saxon heritage of Great Britain...
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Sea-Dog
(247 posts)Aren't Anglo Saxon. WASP Rmoney didn't know that.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)and alienates immigrant Americans whose heritage doesnt include a good, or special.relationship with Anglo Saxons
lose more new votes than win
cuz they already had most of the racist vote in their hand
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uponit7771
(90,339 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Don't forget, at least in biological terms, as is most of England!!
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/05/obama-makes-celtic-connection-in-moneygall-ireland/1#.UA97gEQVmHk
MADem
(135,425 posts)MissMarple
(9,656 posts)See post 121 below. Muriel Volestrangler has a his ethnicity per centages there. And Celts definitely have a presence in alot of peoples, but, a 50 per cent one may be a bit ambitious for England proper.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Mitt's daddy was born there.
I hope other countries have a chance to tell the world what they think of Rmoney.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)(but I do have some great friends in the UK.)
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)There were large migrations of Germans throughout the 19th century, and massive migrations from south and eastern Europe in the late 19th/early 20th. Not to mention the people with African, Asian, Pacific Islander, Central American, Native American, etc. ancestry. Obama has a lot more British - and English - ancestry than I do.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)LOL! Good one!
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)... that Obama wouldn't "appreciate?"
"We're not ... you know ... anti-colonialist."
That's actually some profoundly ugly stuff, and no one will call him on it.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Wasn't his father born in Mexico?
At least Obama's father was born in a part of the British empire
renegade000
(2,301 posts)Perhaps he must be reminded of the fate of his good King Harold...
I'm William the Conqueror, and I approve of this message.
:p
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)renegade000
To be fair - Old Harold was Norwegian by birth - and at one time also the Norwegian King under the name Harald Haaråde (Harald the hard Ruler, as he was rather brutal to subject his lesser ones) William The Concur was a normanner - another who from the age of Gange Rolv was made duke of Normandy (and Gange rolv was also a Norwegian who was given the land, and the title of Duke, by the french King, in return for protecting the french Kingdom from the vikings. Who they did - and even managed to get their own married in to the royal family at one point... And was promised the kingdom of England (this wa long before the United Kingdom was made possible, and England was a rather poor parts of Europe)
But in all, William the bastard (as he also was known, as he was born outside of marriage, something that was BAD by the standards of the age.. (even though many dukes and even kings had more kids outside of marriage than in marriage!) got the upper hand, as he had the more advanced army - and was more cunning in playing the game. And he was maybe even more stubborn to get what he wanted than Harold was...
And as many english says " its 1066 and all that"... The year when England shanged more than it was doing since the romans left the island to fend for themself... And a whole new world, the continental world was coming to England..
Diclotican
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)And "changed."
Okay, that's your free English language lesson for today.
And thanks for posting.
From your Swedish *and* anglo-saxon friend.
Amanda
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)amandabeech
Yeah I meant William The Conqueror - dam the bastard language of english Half French, Half Latin and then some anglo-saxon into the mix. Not easy to write when you are not native to it, Or not using it all the time - and yes I did took it true the spelling check - otherwise it would have been FAR worse than it is...
Ah, you are swedish . Good to se some swedish here to, a fellow scandinavian so to say..
Diclotican
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)IJ'm also probably at least one quarter Anglo-Saxon (English) with a generous helping of Irish, and a little Scottish.
I don't, however, like Rmoney one bit.
I did visit Sweden 15 years ago, and thought it very, very nice. I was actually able to meet a distant family member. Unfortunately, he passed a few years ago.
I expect to visit Sweden once again when I make it to retirement age.
Again, it was a lovely country and I felt quite at home.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)amandabeech
I see.). Oh wel I guess I wil survive that too..
Full blooded Norwigian here - or at least as long back as the paper trail goes (back to the mid 1300s in fact )
No I have some serious doubts about Mitt Romney - something is really fishy with that man...
Many things have shanged in Sweden over the last 15-20 years .. But for the most part, Sweden is what Sweden have allways been
Diclotican
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I also met some Norwegian folks vacationing at the Stockholm Water Festival that was going on when I was in Stockholm. Really nice, friendly people.
Could you briefly summarize what has changed? You may PM me if you like.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)amandabeech
Well, the fjords of Norway is nice - and majestic .. We might not have all the great beaches in the world, but we got the best up here in Norway in all
And we still is rather friendly, both the swedish and Norwegians for the most part. And the Stockholm Water Festival is great to visit - even though I have never been there myself, I have been told it is a lot of fun. And a lot of nice friendly people
Some thing have changed, but for the most part I think both Norwegians and Sweds is like it have always been - specially outside the bigger city's where thing is little less in the fast lane .. But If I have to say something. I think swedes is little less rich than they was 15-20 year ago - or it is just we in Norway who is gotten little richer.. Im not sure....
Diclotican
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Outside the big cities here, life "is little less in the fast lane."
I live in the Washington, D.C., area and worked in Manhattan for nine years, but I grew up in a tiny town in the Midwest. Life was much slower there and still is. Actually, there were quite a few people who were at least partially of Scandinavian descent. Of my best friends, one was all Swedish heritage, one was one quarter of the same, and the other was half Norwegian. Sometimes I wonder if some cultural ideas survive even three generations here in the U.S., because it is unusual in an ethnically mixed area to have close friends of the same or similar background.
I wonder if increased Norwegian wealth has to do with your oil and gas production. Mineral extraction can really help an economy. States here with coal, oil and gas did well while the extraction continues. All I can say is don't spend all the money at once! But then I expect that Norway is being wise with its wealth.
I look forward to more posts from you!
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)amandabeech
I see, well you know, many americans have heritage from one of the scandinavian country's, it was a lot of of our ancestors who decided it was better to emigrate to USA, the land of honey and milk as my grandfather fondly recalled it - even though he never was in US, I guess he was content with the image he had in his mind about the US, rather the reality of it all... For more than 800.000 Norwegians, from the early 1800s to the mid 20 century US was the country to emigrate to - if you was not content with what was home, you could always emigrate to the US, and even make it well there.. Many did it too - even though most of them never arise over "the middle class" I guess. But compared to what they might have had here in Norway, after the war it was strict rationalizing for a long while - the last thing to be de-rationalized was the cars - and that was in 1960!: Norway was poor compared to US, and US was coming to Europe, and Norway rather on the fast line after WW2.. The gigantic of USA was suddenly coming to a home near you, that be music, movies (mostly in the cinemas) and on all different parts of life, we got the impression that the United States was the place to be, if you wanted to get rich...
Oil and Gas have definitely helped Norway going from being one of the poorer country's in Europe - even though I doubt we was that poor, rather was living little less affluent than the rest of Europe.. And until the 1990s, Sweden was in mot cases "big brother" when it came to scandinavia - specially between Norway and Sweden, where Norway had always been the "little brother" who was smaller and poorer than Sweden.. But by middle of 1990s, Norway was really turning around - thanks to the oil and gas we discovered out there in Nordsjøen. And even today, Statoil (our government oil company by the way) discover new places to produce oil and gas, and it looks like Norway if not being living on the fast line, at least have the possibility to continue be one of the richer country's in the world for many decades to come.. If we do not mess it up then...
Oil and gas can help a country going from poor to rich - but it depend of the government, and the willingness to work for the better of everyone - rather for the elite - and Norway managed to do that - compared to most ofter nations, who have great mineral wealth - but still the population is dirt poor, Norway have managed to use the wealth to build up a nation who have a great welfare system, who you can (even though the bureaucracy can kill!) getting help for your needs - that be if you is unemployment, or have a handicap...
I think one of the reasons, most of our wealth have made Norway to what it is today, is because we for the most part have had honest officials, who work for the better of the many rather for the few!. It goes all the way back to the early 1800s, where young public servants, on the verge of their public service, was given a book (a small one) who told them what to accept, and not to accept, and how to work in public service.. And one the advices they was given, was to have two set of writing equipment - and paper. One for public letters - the other for more private letters.. And to keep an eye on the tiller, so no one could be tempted to steal from the coffers... Even though it is a long time since that was the rule - the system are for the most part still in use - and most of our public service are been honest, hardworking and "to the books"..
Norway is a small country, who managed to get weal ty - and also to use the wealth to the best of everyone, rather for a small elite on the top... I think it all goes back to the fact, that many of them who was in government after WW2, also was the one who really know what to live poor was - and was doing their best to build a country where at least most of the population was not living in poor condtions...
Diclotican
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)OMG!!!
Jeez-o-pete, pinch me, what the heck century are we living in again???
Botany
(70,504 posts)The Queen after meeting w/ Michelle, "Now that we have met do keep in touch."
This unprecedented crap. A person running for POTUS goes out of country and his
staff is critical of the sitting POTUS's foreign policy w/ the country where the candidate
opposing the sitting POTUS is in ..... this crosses all kinds of lines. And don't get me started
on the racism behind that comment ....
MADem
(135,425 posts)Let's start with present and former colonies/territories close to USA...Bermuda, Bahamas, Jamaica, Barbados, St. Kitts, Montserrat, BVI, Cayman Islands, etc., etc. and so forth.
There were and are a lot of dusky citizenry there--hell, Mittsy's been to the Caymans, he should know!!
When colonies achieved independence, a lot of people "came home" to the motherland. The people who are in lands still under the auspices of the Empire can and do come and go as they please.
Then there were all of the holdings in Africa, now idependent, but many citizens, upon independence, took the passports and ran, for example, people from KENYA, "Somalilanders," those Rhodesians (remember them?) and many South Africans, but also Ugandans, Tanzanians, etc.
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/africa.htm
Then, when we wander on over to INDIA, the Jewel In the Crown, and Pakistan, and what is now Bangladesh...well...a lot of the members of the British Empire who took their UK passports at independence weren't terribly Anglo-Saxon looking, now, were they?
I think Mittsy just made a Very Wrong Assumption about Great Britain. He might as well have said "We're all a bunch of RACISTS up in here, just so ya know!" Fucking idiot. Wait'll he turns on the news, and sees all the ARABS and INDIANS and ooooooooooooh BLACK PEOPLE giving him the day's reports in a lovely BBC accent. I think he might just poop his silken drawers a bit.
What a miscalculation!!!!
nenagh
(1,925 posts)The Romney team complains about David Cameron accepting warm reception from Pres Obama, during Cameron's last USA trip..because Romney and Cameron are on similar political sides.. (in the article). Petty...ugly..
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Mormon/Anglican Fellowship?
This just iin Romney supprt among AA has dropped to 8.
Not 8 percent just 8 African Americans in the entire country support him.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)The only 8 African American Mormons
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)over again on camera, trying to make those eight look like 20 or 30 even.
I am convinced the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere is causing some brain damage in the weaker minded among us.
Jessy169
(602 posts)but other than a note of genetical family history, it is otherwise totally meaningless. It doesn't give me a special feeling of kinship with my long distant relatives in Europe, and it isn't something I talk about or even think about when I meet and talk with guys from Europe.
This is a carefully crafted statement by Team Romney, meant to score political points. It looks like serious pandering to the racist core of America.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)That means Obama should be able to make friends with two countries rather than just one.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)50.0 % Luo
35.058 593 75 % English
4.687 5 % Scottish
3.906 25 % Irish
3.710 937 5 % German
1.562 5 % Welsh
0.976 562 5 % Swiss
0.097 656 25 % French
-----------------
100.0 %
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)When some dude starts talking about "America's Anglo-Saxon heritage" they are being racist. Absolutely guaranteed, every time. The only possible exception is if the context is linguistics or discussing the legal developments that led to the US constitution starting with Saxon weald law or some shit like that.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Somehow though I don't think they want to point to that fact, it confuses the base.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's actually not even very good at hiding the utter racism it's based on.
patrice
(47,992 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Mitt Ramney's inexperience and ignorance of foreign affairs is appalling.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Obama wouldn't understand...
just in case it wasn't clear
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)I don't appreciate Anglo-Saxon heritage, probably because my forbears were Vikings and Swedish peasants. With a good dollop of Irish.
patrice
(47,992 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)PS Mitt, is this what you mean by Anglo-Saxon?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)bermudat
(1,329 posts)that is why he doesn't feel he has to explain anything. Nothing else matters
except that people will vote for him because he is white and will get 'him' out
of the white house.
patrice
(47,992 posts)But the two receptions that Mr. Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee, will hold for donors next week during a swing through Europe are turning into an ill-timed public relations headache for him.
Several of the events hosts are top executives at banks tied to the interest rate-fixing scandal that is now engulfing Londons financial and political world, linking Mr. Romney, however superficially, to a messy moment in the continuing debate over Wall Street excesses.
The British and American authorities are examining the role of more than 10 banks in the possible manipulation of key interest rates that affected how consumers and companies borrowed money around the world.
The former chief executive and a top lobbyist for Barclays, the bank at the center of the scandal, helped organize a Romney fund-raiser. The former chief executive, Robert E. Diamond Jr., has since withdrawn his name as the events co-host. The banks lobbyist, Patrick J. Durkin, remains a co-chairman: he has bundled $1.1 million for Mr. Romney from friends and business associates, more than any other lobbyist, according to federal records.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Talk about being tone deaf.
In the middle of the Libor and other UK scandals, Mitt should have enough sense to avoid Barclays.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)But it still makes my blood boil. A presidential candidate is making the fear erosion of WASP hegemony and priviledge in the US a plank of his platform. What a jackass. Hey Rmoney; Newsflash: A second generation Puerto Rican from the Bronx is every bit as much of a "Real American" as a 6th generation Boston Brahmin. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you elitist scumbag.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Watch them try to use "Judaeo-Christian" in a context that implies Obama is Mooslim.
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)And, who think our media will let this slide?
It's more controversial anything that's happened during this campaign so I don't see them ignoring this one. Romney should fire this doofus adviser.
Your guess on how our pathetic mainstream media will handle this?
nenagh
(1,925 posts)At the same time as London hosts Olympic teams from countries all over the planet,
Michelle Obama has been invited to a reception at Buckingham Palace hosted by the Queen,
Romney is visiting the Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street..
Reader comments from some of the Guardian articles are scathing towards Romney..
London is just waking up now..
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)drug war massacres.
Nice try, Rmoney advisor, to code your true racist feelings about a black president.
Dipshits. . .all of them!
longship
(40,416 posts)Yes, he gets the W (appropriately).
AS? I don't think so. Wasn't his father born in Mexico?
P? No fucking way Mormons are Protestant.
Maybe a WMM! Huh?
Not that I care where he comes from or what his religion is, let alone his race.
What matters is his policies and his integrity. Rmoney has neither.
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)Not his religion or race. It seems the GOP has embraced white man's burden and social Darwinism again.
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longship
(40,416 posts)More like social creationism, after all, as the GOP always reminds us, this is a Christian nation.
That's one of the most dangerous and insidious of their memes.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Not a good combination, Mitt.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)AllyCat
(16,187 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)Forgot username
(15 posts)Well, you know that three months or whatever in Kendonesia or whatever foreign sounding place of the week when the President was a child gave the commie's enough time to form the Great Muslim-Fascistic-Socialistic conspiracy to build a time machine and place his birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper.
MADem
(135,425 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Although I'm surprised to hear mention of our Anglo-Saxons. Does this mean we didn't kill them all in our coal mineS?
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)How much is the Torygraph, and how much is the Romney advisor, is hard to tell. As pointed out in the OP, the Torygraph is pretty unreconstructed RW Tory; but in addition, since going online, seems to be cosying up rather actively with the American Right.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)Will postpone reading for the moment as I'm about to have breakfast and don't want to spoil it.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They're going all out. Clearly Romney never had the integrity of John McCain who stayed away from this kind of crap.
calimary
(81,265 posts)Ya think?!?!??!
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)In all my many years of following presidential campaigns, I don't remember a nominee or a surrogate sinking quite this low. That is such a horrid thing to say. It reeks of racism.
How low is Rmoney's campaign planning to sink? This guy. Wow. He thinks he can get away with anything. He thinks he is untouchable and the rules don't apply to him. It's only JULY. This is going to get uuugly.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I wonder if it was cleaned up, maybe in the original he said Aryan.
cali
(114,904 posts)in the coming months.
Romney is a dishonorable fuckwad.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)And no one does anything about it because if they even remotely accuse the right of racism, even when it's pretty clear, they're raked over the coals for it. They're dismissed as crackpots who use the race card and nothing more! The reply would obviously be that's not what he meant and any assertion is just completely unfounded. They'd turn it around and make this guy the victim.
So, they keep pushing and pushing until, one day, they'll be completely open with their racism. They're close as is...which is scary.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)I guess Romney wants to make sure Klansmen come out to vote.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)I think it is curious that the "advisor" was NOT named.
goclark
(30,404 posts)If he didn't say it, he approved it being said --- he is crazy and very dangerous for our country.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)The term "advisor" has no real meaning beyond someone who gives advice to the Romney campaign.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)a jealous twinge in a "special relationship" or something?
You want to go back to monarchy, is that it? Because that was the relationship against which those anglo-saxons who sailed over here were fighting... and funny thing, that---those who benefitted from a caste/class/noble system stayed in Great Britain and those who didn't bounced.
malaise
(268,997 posts)They are shameless.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)That is very ugly.
NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)well put.
ithinkmyliverhurts
(1,928 posts)For all you nerds out there.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Qualifications
Excellent speaking skills
foreign languages: none
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The United States actually has a shared history with probably every single country on the planet. Dude thinks only white folks are real Americans I guess, and conveniently forgets President Obama's white mother and grandparents who brought him up.
There's something wrong with that boy. He can't open his mouth without a backhanded insult to a whole group of people.
PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)know 20th century history.
British East Africa that included colonial Kenya was part of the British Empire.
I make an assumption that Romney equates Anglo-Saxon heritage with the British Empire.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)jaw-dropping WOW.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Sounds blatantly racist and derogatory regardless.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Not hate! So lets not play the race card .... much.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
I the herritage is that important, why then make this little war of 1776, and the then untold story of telling the kings of UK to go show it somewhere the sun never shine...
This is just another sheap shoot on trying to tell the base, that the President of the United States of America are not an white ango-saxon... Nothing less, nothing more...
Diclotican
IDemo
(16,926 posts)tanyev
(42,556 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)klook
(12,155 posts)TBF
(32,060 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Jeebus.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)USA! USA! USA! It rhymes with KKK! KKK! KKK!
Rmoney's rethugican Congress.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)So by virtue of most of my long past ancestors being from Britain, I'm supposed to be what? More American? That's just crazy! People are who they are right now. That statement is beyond racist. I know nothing of what my "Angle-Saxon" heritage is supposed to "mean". All I know is that my ancestors ended up in eastern, Kentucky and from that I have a really bad accent.
Really, this borders on Eugenics.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Anything to make him the nigger! Pitiful.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)FSogol
(45,485 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)In Ireland.
Barack not appreciating the heritage that the USA and the UK share? Ha! Plus that "advisor" has forgotten about some of the other past tribal heritages that are around... Celts, Scots, Picts, Vikings, Normans, even the odd Roman here and there. Anglo-Saxon heritage would lie pretty much in the SE and E of England and ignores the rest of the country and the other nations of the UK.
valerief
(53,235 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Were connected to rich families 200 years ago. From what I've understood about the American Revolution many of the wealthiest were quite happy with mother England and saw no need to rock the boat. Not only because they still had a lot of love for England and the King but also because it would harm the money stream they were so entrenched in.
You still see them today. They fawn over the Royal family and pledge themselves to benefiting them. They are still angry about the whole formation of America and the insults that were spewed against their beloved homeland. They have worked steadily to return us to the feudal system that is ingrained into their DNA. That allows them to feel as if they can recreate the old country they still long for from deep inside.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I hope this makes national news. Those racist f*ckers need to be exposed.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)jpbollma
(552 posts)Most of their knuckle dragger followers probably don't even know what Anglo Saxon means. LOL.
kiranon
(1,727 posts)Romney's inability to be diplomatic, likable or interested in anything outside of making money and hyping his "glory days" running the Salt Lake City Olympics his Anglo-Saxon heritage notwithstanding.
firenewt
(298 posts)and the Nobility own everything and the rest of the population exists at the whim of the the aristocracy. Don't have any food, so starve. That is the heritage Romney identifies with.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)By people who speak of 'neofuedalism', like Chris Hedges. I think he and others watch and read too many King Arthur type novels for their own good. That history will never repeat itself. I do believe Hedges knows that in his heart of hearts but fear is the great, and dark, motivator and he employs it well. As an optimist I don't use fear, I prefer solutions. Solutions are hard, require great thought. Fear is easy.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Whistles of all sorts here.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)and that coverage is coming up on The Situation Room. I have very little hope he'll cover this fairly.
This is the first mention of these racist comments by the Romney adviser that I've heard on cable news. Anybody else see anything?
EDIT - UPDATE:
Arrrg. I was right. He tried to spin it as if we should be outraged that Biden and the O campaign are responding to reports from a foreign newpaper with an anonymous source. What makes CNN think just because the Romney campaign denied it that it isn't true? 1. The Romney campaign has zero credibility. 2. Why would a right-leaning UK newspaper just make this up or distort what someone said?
CNN is in the tank for Rmoney to keep this a close race. Pathetic!
I wish the Telegraph would reveal their source. They are being called liars by the Romney campaign. Shouldn't they push back and tell people who said this racist garbage?
klook
(12,155 posts)Always the Angles and the Saxons. Never any respect for the Jutes!
- Source: Garb The World
tclambert
(11,086 posts)God save the Queen!
Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)As someone said upthread, there's no motivation for a British newspaper to fabricate something like this. Nevertheless, it might be good to take his denial at face value in this instance, and say, "IF this quote is accurate, it's very troubling," etc. That way it doesn't look like we're seizing on an unverified source to try to discredit Romney. I can GUARANFUCKINGTEE there will be other times Romney verbally steps on his dick, hopefully while he's in the country, that we can make plenty of hay with. He's that terrible of a candidate.
On the other hand, the quote is so artless and desperate to push the "foreign" meme, I bet it's pretty close to accurate. And criticizing the president while on foreign soil is very bad form. IF it's accurate.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)There's reason to cite that heritage with pride, or laud them anywhere above the Zulu.
txwhitedove
(3,928 posts)raised American, USA, rah-rah, but being French/Scots/Cherokee I don't much relate to the "white Anglo-Saxon" people. What a horrible ignorant thing to say.
BlueinOhio
(238 posts)I can't believe this but here it goes. Obama's grandfather is a Dunham. Dunham is from ancient Anglo-Saxon culture of Britain. From the parish Dunham in the county Norfolk. Dun - hill and ham-home or home on the hill.
Romney is Norman they arrived in England After the Norman conquest 1066. Robin Hood was Anglo-Saxon Lord who protected the repressed Anglo-Saxons from the rich Norman overlords. There you have it.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)mike dub
(541 posts)Along with the broader racist angle, maybe Mittens' campaign folks are trying to warm up to American Southerners with the use of the word "heritage". I'm a liberal Democrat/independent, but for those of us whose male ancestors fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War, the Southern Heritage factor still hangs on in the recesses...
Before anyone gets upset about this, I'll mention I have friends from rural New York who're just as proud that their ancestors are from northern New York. (they haven't mentioned ancestors who fought in the Civil War though, and I don't ask)
If the use of the word "heritage" in this context is part of the dog-whistle appeal, it's another FAIL. Many Southerners have Scotch-Irish ancestry (not Mitt's all-hallowed Anglo-Saxon/British) and some of my Southern repub neighbors might not vote for Mitt anyway because he's a Mormon AND a Yankee. He's not "that Obama", though... that's the ONLY thing he's got going for him down here.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)or just pathetically stupid?
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,985 posts)Obama's not a hoity-toity WASP.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Unless I have ancestry from English people enslaved by the Vikings.
My ancestors came from SW Norway and East Prussia. My Y-DNA haplotype is I1-uN1, typical of Western Norway.